Dilbert: Quiet quitting

[JEDI]

Looks like he got divorced this year, bummer! I'd imagine it's hard not to get bitter.

Yeah, the Dilbert TV show was fun, I gotta go back & watch it! "A comet hit my Stairmaster - that's why I don't exercise anymore!"

think he's bitter about the divorce?

 

[Captante]

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think he's bitter about the divorce?

More like I think he nailed it.

(of course I MAY just be a tad bitter myself!)

 

[KMFJD]

Well Scott Adams went full racist

https://twitter.com/x/status/1629241007266050052

https://twitter.com/x/status/1629250832322514945

 

[KMFJD]

for those that missed it

https://twitter.com/x/status/1628949963328692224

 

[IronWing]

Loud quitting doesn't seem to work out so good.

 

[mikeymikec]

I have a dismissive wanking gesture ready for anyone who is a serious advocate of the term 'quiet quitting'. IMO It's rightwingspeak for "we pay you a wage to work full-time which means you shouldn't have a life outside of work".

I read Dilbert online for many years until I noticed that he started repeating himself Garfield style then attempted to crowbar his political opinions into "humour".

 

[brianmanahan]

yikes

 

[Brainonska511]

Remember when Dilbert was a comic strip devoted to making fun of idiotic management instead of a strip that punched down on employees?

Many years ago, Adams flipped the script and decided to become a right wing asshole instead. Maybe he always was one and just finally came out into the open...

 

[mikeymikec]

cyanide & happiness puts the boot in: https://explosm.net/comics/dillbert-gets-fired#comic

 

[Kaido]

for those that missed it

https://twitter.com/x/status/1628949963328692224

Retro-edit: Just to clarify, because some people are extrapolating a story: my point here isn't to "defend" Scott Adams. His video was obviously not good. The point is what the media did with it, despite his follow-up video to explain what he meant. Not defending Scott Adams. Not defending racism. Not saying this type of behavior is appropriate in any way whatsoever.

Original post:

Some food for thought. Preface:

1. Racism is bad. Let's get that out of the way because some people won't be able to see past the ragebait topics here.
2. Unpopular opinion from the knee-jerk reactions going around: I think he got taken immensely out of context, and a lot of media companies are making a lot of money off ragebait articles about this right now.

I think what he was trying to say is:

1. He feels like the poll is saying that half of black people polled are self-stated racist against white people
2. He then advocates staying away from people who are racist, because trying to change people who hate other people based on race feels pointless

I'm a fan of his comics, cartoons, and non-fiction books. He can go out into left field pretty often, but most of his content requires a nuanced discussion within the context he's delivering it in, not from a knee-jerk reactionary kind of way:



Here's a good 2-hour interview with him from a couple days ago:

From his Twitter, where he often calls out the media on their FUD:



Musk (another controversial public figure) also called out the media for being "racist against whites":

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2023/02/26/elon-musk-scott-adams-dilbert-racist/

Case in point, from Twitter:



However, ragebait articles from the Internet don't operate in a nuanced fashion. They operate like this:


The Internet right now definitely feels like Chicken Little running away with the whole "sky is falling" thing. It seems pretty odd that a guy who has been running a satire comic strip for nearly 35 years would suddenly become publicly racist. It's worth watching his Youtube interview linked above for further context.

 

[mikeymikec]

Some food for thought. Preface:

1. Racism is bad. Let's get that out of the way because some people won't be able to see past the ragebait topics here.
2. Unpopular opinion from the knee-jerk reactions going around: I think he got taken immensely out of context, and a lot of media companies are making a lot of money off ragebait articles about this right now.

I think what he was trying to say is:

1. He feels like the poll is saying that half of black people polled are self-stated racist against white people
2. He then advocates staying away from people who are racist, because trying to change people who hate other people based on race feels pointless

I just watched the quoted video clip hosted by twitter further up this thread and he's really saying more than that.

Let's start by talking about surveys. What kind of survey would convince you that millions of people are a danger to you, danger enough (and sufficiently convinced enough) for you to move house?

One may infer that he moved house as a result of such a survey. If that's not a safe inference, then he gave no basis at all for him moving house away from black people. He's extremely cowardly in his method of conveying his points, just like Donald Trump, he likes to say, "people are saying". "The survey says this, I'm not saying this!". "This other guy said there were problems".

Strip the survey out of his statement, and what do you have? Baseless racism. Don't strip the survey out and what do you have: millions of black people are a clear and present danger to white people based on the strength of one survey. Whichever way, this is not a man who ought to be listened to; he's either displaying a level of mental incompetence which should question his capacity to make any significant life decisions, or he's a common racist.

 

[VirtualLarry]

I apologize to 'Dilbert' comic creator Scott Adams for forcing him to be racist (msn.com)


Apparently, according to Musk, it's all "the media's fault".

 

[Meghan54]

Rassmussen “poll”….

A question/statement originated on 4chan as a troll for libs…

Yeah, seems about legitimate…LO-fuckin’-L

 

[Kaido]

he's either displaying a level of mental incompetence which should question his capacity to make any significant life decisions, or he's a common racist.

This is where it gets nuanced: he walks a pretty fine line about how he discusses stuff vs. how it comes across. Google says he's worth $75 million & he seems to not care very much about how he's publicly perceived at this point. Out of context, his comments sound pretty dang bad, to the point where he's on every major news website as going on a "racist tirade" & being dropped from newspapers, from his book publisher, and even his own book agent:

“I don’t want to have anything to do with them,” Adams added. “And I would say, based on the current way things are going, the best advice I would give to White people is to get the h**l away from Black people, just get the f**k away … because there is no fixing this.”

He provides more context here:

I do think it's important to pay attention to how things might be construed, especially when you're a public figure. I had a buddy at work from the south who proudly had a Confederate flag on the back window of the truck & kept it up during the recent racial issues in the south over the flag. He insisted he supported small government & stated that he and the flag had nothing to do with racism, which isn't exactly how other people perceived it:

The Confederate flag symbolizes white supremacy — and it always has

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www.vox.com

I like how Bryan Cranston put how MAGA could be construed, i.e. when was it ever great for African-American people?

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As he said, it's important to consider if our privilege has created blindspots for us. I feel like Mr. Adams has kind of hit that point, where you really need to be more sensitive about what you say publicly & be more clear about what your intentions are. It's worth watching the Youtube interview above if you're interested, but yeah, it was a pretty bad decision overall lol.

 

[Muse]

If you read up on the guy, you won't patronize his work.

I never read his work, was bored by it. Seeing what happened with him the last few days (a brief TV news story, probably Network national/international news), it looks like his career has been blown to pieces, his own doing. Did he have no idea that the things he said would have this result? Seems like he unconsciously sabotaged himself.

 

[nakedfrog]

Some food for thought. Preface:

1. Racism is bad. Let's get that out of the way because some people won't be able to see past the ragebait topics here.
2. Unpopular opinion from the knee-jerk reactions going around: I think he got taken immensely out of context, and a lot of media companies are making a lot of money off ragebait articles about this right now.

I think what he was trying to say is:

1. He feels like the poll is saying that half of black people polled are self-stated racist against white people
2. He then advocates staying away from people who are racist, because trying to change people who hate other people based on race feels pointless

In short: "black people are the real racists, stay the fuck away from them". Gosh, why would that be a problematic statement?
For further context, he said he "identified as black" for a few years to "feel like he was on the winning team". This speaks quite a bit about how he views things.

 

[Kaido]

In short: "black people are the real racists, stay the f**k away from them". Gosh, why would that be a problematic statement?
For further context, he said he "identified as black" for a few years to "feel like he was on the winning team". This speaks quite a bit about how he views things.

Well, that's the knee-jerk reaction the media's been taking...the context is that he was specifically talking about black people being racist against white people. And of course, racism is an incredibly touchy subject. Based on the (questionable) poll he used:



He also addresses "identifying as black" in this video:

Again...it's a hot button topic. If he was going to put something like all of this public, he should have been more careful about it & also been super careful about explaining what he really meant. In the video interview above, he doesn't strike me as racist...just not very savvy about how he controls portraying his image, as now he's on CNN.com as "Dilbert cartoonist does racist tirade". Oh well.

 

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

^^^ Is this really the thread you want your reputation to die on?

 

[KMFJD]

Ian Miles Cheong, lmfao

 

[nakedfrog]

Well, that's the knee-jerk reaction the media's been taking...the context is that he was specifically talking about black people being racist against white people. And of course, racism is an incredibly touchy subject. Based on the (questionable) poll he used:

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He also addresses "identifying as black" in this video:

Again...it's a hot button topic. If he was going to put something like all of this public, he should have been more careful about it & also been super careful about explaining what he really meant. In the video interview above, he doesn't strike me as racist...just not very savvy about how he controls portraying his image, as now he's on CNN.com as "Dilbert cartoonist does racist tirade". Oh well.

Do you know who Ian Miles Cheong is, or why he chose the phrasing that he did?
The ACTUAL question was this:
Do you agree or disagree with this statement: “It’s OK to be white.”

Are you aware of the baggage associated with that statement, and why it might evoke a stronger response from black people than it might from white people?
Furthermore, the ACTUAL results from black respondents:
"It's okay to be white."
53% agree, 26% disagree, 21% not sure

26% disagreed with it. This turns into "50% of black people consider the existence of white people unacceptable" in Cheong's tweet. If you consider the baggage that comes with that phrase, it provides what you like to call "context".
So from this, Adams whipped his fragile white male ego into a froth over how black people don't appreciate how he's helped them, so he's done helping them, black people hate white people, so white people should stay the fuck away from black people. Totally reasonable response and in no way racist, somehow?

 

[RPD]

Well, that's the knee-jerk reaction the media's been taking...the context is that he was specifically talking about black people being racist against white people. And of course, racism is an incredibly touchy subject. Based on the (questionable) poll he used:

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He also addresses "identifying as black" in this video:

Again...it's a hot button topic. If he was going to put something like all of this public, he should have been more careful about it & also been super careful about explaining what he really meant. In the video interview above, he doesn't strike me as racist...just not very savvy about how he controls portraying his image, as now he's on CNN.com as "Dilbert cartoonist does racist tirade". Oh well.

People got their headlines and have moved on. You can tell by the replies no one is taking more than 5s to bother taking in the EXACT context. It's pretty easy to tell if something is racist. Replace whatever color in question in with another, how's it sound now? For example:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1630389907264016384

This is a zero, but if uh lets say Chris Evan's makes this statement, but says anyone white? How's that going to pan out for him?
For clarification, I honestly don't care how this comic feels, he could be mini-Ye, I don't know or care enough to spend time to find out, but just pointing out how much of an over reaction the media takes with anything race related if it fits the agenda they want to push.

 

[BudAshes]

White's should only be with white's, colored with coloreds etc.

This thread is about laundry, right?

This thread IS about laundry.... RIGHT??!?!?!

 

[Kaido]

^^^ Is this really the thread you want your reputation to die on?

Re: Preface:

1. Racism is bad. Let's get that out of the way because some people won't be able to see past the ragebait topics here.

 

[Kaido]

why it might evoke a stronger response from black people than it might from white people?

It was 100% done in poor taste. Racism is an extremely sensitive topic in America. There are a thousand better ways he could have discussed the topic for what he (apparently) was trying to say.

 

[Kaido]

For clarification, I honestly don't care how this comic feels, he could be mini-Ye, I don't know or care enough to spend time to find out, but just pointing out how much of an over reaction the media takes with anything race related if it fits the agenda they want to push.

This is where Scott Adams gets interesting: he views the media for what it is (a machine, not the "news"). He's rich enough not to be dependent on his public reputation for income. He goes into topics & details that require a nuanced discussion. It's pretty obvious from his follow-up video interview that he's not racist, but like you said, people got their headline & moved on without digging any deeper. I don't think the video he released initially was the smartest idea, nor do I think he adequately explained what he was trying to say for people who only saw the clip. But, that's his choice, and now he has to deal with the fallout. I don't think too many people are willing to watch a 2-hour interview haha.