[DigiTimes] Intel next-generation top-end CPU platforms ready for 3Q17

[Arachnotronic]

Intel is planning to unveil its next-generation top-end Skylake-X and Kaby Lake-X series CPUs in the third quarter of 2017, succeeding the existing Broadwell-E series with a price range between NT$15,000-57,000 (US$468-1,780). Intel may debut the two series at Gamescom 2017 in Germany in August.

At the same time, Intel is ready to announce the full series of its Kaby Lake processors at CES 2017, starting January 4, 2017. Intel already began shipping many of its Kaby Lake-S series processors including Core i7-7700K in December.

http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20161208PD201.html

Kaby Lake-X won't be cheap, it seems.

 

[ShintaiDK]

That says a lot about what Intel thinks of Zen. And they know exactly how it performs. Just as AMD knows exactly how Skylake-EP performs.

 

[witeken]

That says a lot about what Intel thinks of Zen. And they know exactly how it performs.

What does Intel think of Zen?

 

[jpiniero]

I have to think Digitimes is wrong on the Kaby-X pricing. I can't imagine they can get more than 50 bucks more for it versus the 7700K, esp since the Kaby-X doesn't have the IGP enabled.

What does Intel think of Zen?

Intel doesn't seem to think much of it. Of course it could also be that they just don't care.

 

[mikk]

http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20161208PD201.html

Kaby Lake-X won't be cheap, it seems.

Dou you really believe in this prices, 3 quarters before release when even Intel hasn't been decided yet? 468 USD is more than 6 Core Broadwell. It's very unlikely that Intel will sell a Quadcore pricier than a sixcore. i7-6800k is listed at $434, means $468 can only be the i7-6800k 6c successor, assuming these prices are valid.

 

[majord]

Sorry if this has already been discussed, but what exactly is the difference between Kaby and Skylake-X? I thought SL-X was being produced with the same 14nm+ process..

 

[witeken]

It seems these 2 lines got... delayed.

Were planned for Q2: http://wccftech.com/intel-skylake-x-kaby-lake-x-q2-2017-roadmap-leak/

Sorry if this has already been discussed, but what exactly is the difference between Kaby and Skylake-X? I thought SL-X was being produced with the same 14nm+ process..

 

[frozentundra123456]

I have to think Digitimes is wrong on the Kaby-X pricing. I can't imagine they can get more than 50 bucks more for it versus the 7700K, esp since the Kaby-X doesn't have the IGP enabled.



Intel doesn't seem to think much of it. Of course it could also be that they just don't care.

I dont think it really demonstrates anything about what they think of Zen. This lineup has been in the pipeline for a long time, so it "is what it is". They are not going to give away their hand by announcing price cuts 9 months in advance. If Zen is great, is in good supply, and sells well, they can lower prices at launch. If not, they they can keep prices as they are. I also agree about Kaby-X pricing, unless it is some super chip (maybe soldered?) that easily does 5 plus ghz. Even then, the trend is going toward more cores rather than more IPC, so I doubt it will sell for more than the hex core.

 

[majord]

Thanks witeken.. I think I get it - IGP-disabled Kabylake on skt 2066?

 

[JoeRambo]

Heh, 1MB L2 cache Skylake-EP could rock on desktop ( as long as latency is not hurt). But those "vanilla" quad cores with disabled iGPU are from PR hell.

But... My gut feeling is that 7700K is last high end unlocked CPU and Intel will move unlocked CPUs to "entuthiast" socket 2066 to properly milk them.

 

[LTC8K6]

KL-X would presumably clock very nicely with 4C/8T and a 112W tdp?

 

[podspi]

Heh, 1MB L2 cache Skylake-EP could rock on desktop ( as long as latency is not hurt). But those "vanilla" quad cores with disabled iGPU are from PR hell.

But... My gut feeling is that 7700K is last high end unlocked CPU and Intel will move unlocked CPUs to "entuthiast" socket 2066 to properly milk them.

I think it depends on how Zen and Zen+ turn out. If they are strong, Intel may end up not doing this (or reducing the cost of the enthusiast platform).

I'd argue the new unlocked i3 could also indicate how Intel feels about Zen...

 

[Arachnotronic]

I also agree about Kaby-X pricing, unless it is some super chip (maybe soldered?) that easily does 5 plus ghz. Even then, the trend is going toward more cores rather than more IPC, so I doubt it will sell for more than the hex core.

If 7700K is $350 using the LGA-1151 socket, then I would expect a real premium for the i7 7750K or whatever it gets called. It will be built using a more expensive package (LGA 2066 vs LGA 1151), it will probably need to be validated at a significantly higher frequency than the mainstream parts (fewer dies will pass selection), and it will be a lower volume part by virtue of being on the more "niche" platform.

If this thing costs less than $420-ish, I'll be surprised.

 

[coercitiv]

If this thing costs less than $420-ish, I'll be surprised.

Do you expect KBL X to be more expensive than i7 6800K?

 

[Arachnotronic]

Do you expect KBL X to be more expensive than i7 6800K?

I could see KBL-X at $419.99 and then the entry level hex core SKU at $449.99, the list price of the 6800K.