Digital or Analog Sound?

JustinTD79

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I have analog sound right now by means of the three 3.5mm line-in cables, but the back of the speaker control unit also has a digital optical-in and digital coax-in. My soundcard has a 3.5mm minijack digital-out that I'm not even using. Is there a way to connect them? Is it even worth it? Should I get a soundcard that has an optical out and connect them that way? I've read that DVD audio is inaudible with a digital connection. Why that is, I have no idea. It's called a DIGITAL video disk, but I guess the sound is analog?

SB Audigy 2: Line-out 1, Line-out 2, Line-out 3, Line-in, Microphone, Digital-Out (all 3.5mm mini jacks)

Logitech Z-680's: Line-in 1, Line-in 2, Line-in 3 (all 3.5mm), Digital Optical-in, Digital Coax-in
 

PurdueRy

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DVD Audio is a music format. It's not just audio from your DVD movies. Any no it can't be played through a digital connection.

Just use the analog connection.
 

meatfestival

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Originally posted by: ronnn
Thought the audigy 2 has better analog out than digital?

why would it be? with the digital out you're bypassing the DACs and outputting the clean digital signal being produced by the card.

As to the original post, you could use a minijack to RCA phono lead to use the digital ins & outs on your sound card & speakers, but I'm not sure if you'd get 5.1 sound, probably just stereo.

Also I don't see why there'd be any problem with DVD Audio over SPDIF/optical. Perhaps the aforementioned 5.1/stereo thing, but at least you'd get something.
 

PurdueRy

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Originally posted by: meatfestival
Originally posted by: ronnn
Thought the audigy 2 has better analog out than digital?

why would it be? with the digital out you're bypassing the DACs and outputting the clean digital signal being produced by the card.

As to the original post, you could use a minijack to RCA phono lead to use the digital ins & outs on your sound card & speakers, but I'm not sure if you'd get 5.1 sound, probably just stereo.

Also I don't why there'd be any problem with DVD Audio over SPDIF/optical.

No, the DAC's in his sound card are likely better than those in his speakers. This means the analog connection is superior.

And no, DVD audio cannot use a digital connection.
 

fire400

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Originally posted by: meatfestival
Originally posted by: ronnn
Thought the audigy 2 has better analog out than digital?

why would it be? with the digital out you're bypassing the DACs and outputting the clean digital signal being produced by the card.

As to the original post, you could use a minijack to RCA phono lead to use the digital ins & outs on your sound card & speakers, but I'm not sure if you'd get 5.1 sound, probably just stereo.

Also I don't why there'd be any problem with DVD Audio over SPDIF/optical.

you can get 5.1 on digital/optical, it's autodetect for most systems. however the software must support it in order for the receiver or the 5.1 setup to offer that kind of fidelity.

the X-fi did it right though, it's hardware implemented without software utilization like a DVD program.

but you're right, in some cases, some systems will only offer a stereo output to the speaker setup devices in which the hardware for the speakers will take over and produce more ambient sound over generic signal.

the audigy 2 ZS is a powerful card, but when it comes to the X-fi, I don't know if I could do the Audigy series anymore.
 

SparkyJJO

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Originally posted by: PurdueRy
No, the DAC's in his sound card are likely better than those in his speakers. This means the analog connection is superior.

And no, DVD audio cannot use a digital connection.

If DVD audio can't use digital connection, why do standalone DVD players like for TVs have digital audio out? :confused:
 

PurdueRy

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Originally posted by: SparkyJJO
Originally posted by: PurdueRy
No, the DAC's in his sound card are likely better than those in his speakers. This means the analog connection is superior.

And no, DVD audio cannot use a digital connection.

If DVD audio can't use digital connection, why do standalone DVD players like for TVs have digital audio out? :confused:

Because they can't play DVD-audio unless they have 5.1 preouts on them

Ways of connecting and playing a DVD-audio disc.

1. The 6 audio channels can be decrypted and extracted in the player and sent to the amplifier along 6 standard analogue cables.
2. The 6 audio channels can be decrypted and then re-encrypted into an IEEE-1394 (Firewire) signal and sent to the amplifier, which will then decrypt the digital signal and then extract the 6 channels of Audio. The IEEE-1394 encryption is different to the DVD-A encryption and was designed as a general standard for a high quality digital interface. The amplifier has to be equipped with a valid decryption key or it won't play the disk.
3. The third option is via the S/PDIF (or TOSLINK) digital interface. However, because of concerns over unauthorised copying, DVD-A players are required to handle this digital interface in one of the following ways:
* Turn such an interface off completely. This option is preferred by the music publishers.
* Downconvert the audio to a 2 channel 16 bit/48 kHz PCM signal. The music publishers are not enthusiastic about this because it permits the production of a CD quality copy, something they still expect to sell, besides DVD-A.
* Downconvert the audio to 2 channels, but keeping the original sample size and bit rate if the producer sets a flag on the DVD-A disc telling the player to do so.
* Encrypt the digital multichannel signal at the original high sample rate and send it, typically via three S/PDIF digital paths (L/R front, L/R surround, CF/LFE) or HDMI to the processor/preamp for decryption, such that the digital signal is never available 'in the clear' for potential copying.
4. A final option is to modify the player, capturing the high resolution digital signals before they are fed to internal D/A converters and convert it to S/PDIF, giving full range digital (but only stereo) sound. There exist already do-it-yourself solutions for some players.

Note that with the digital connection you will get a compressed DD or DTS track.
 

Howard

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Originally posted by: PurdueRy
Originally posted by: meatfestival
Originally posted by: ronnn
Thought the audigy 2 has better analog out than digital?

why would it be? with the digital out you're bypassing the DACs and outputting the clean digital signal being produced by the card.

As to the original post, you could use a minijack to RCA phono lead to use the digital ins & outs on your sound card & speakers, but I'm not sure if you'd get 5.1 sound, probably just stereo.

Also I don't why there'd be any problem with DVD Audio over SPDIF/optical.
And no, DVD audio cannot use a digital connection.
Not usually, but last time I checked there was a workaround.
 

PurdueRy

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Originally posted by: Howard
Originally posted by: PurdueRy
Originally posted by: meatfestival
Originally posted by: ronnn
Thought the audigy 2 has better analog out than digital?

why would it be? with the digital out you're bypassing the DACs and outputting the clean digital signal being produced by the card.

As to the original post, you could use a minijack to RCA phono lead to use the digital ins & outs on your sound card & speakers, but I'm not sure if you'd get 5.1 sound, probably just stereo.

Also I don't why there'd be any problem with DVD Audio over SPDIF/optical.
And no, DVD audio cannot use a digital connection.
Not usually, but last time I checked there was a workaround.

see above post, and there are usually DTS/DD tracks on DVD-audio discs so that will work. The DVD-Audio format itself will not however.
 

Twsmit

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You have an Analog soundcard, use the analog ports. If you use the built in digital on your speakers you have just configured yourself a nice Logitech soundcard, because your audigy will not be doing anything except passing on the stream.
 

Howard

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Originally posted by: PurdueRy
Originally posted by: Howard
Originally posted by: PurdueRy
Originally posted by: meatfestival
Originally posted by: ronnn
Thought the audigy 2 has better analog out than digital?

why would it be? with the digital out you're bypassing the DACs and outputting the clean digital signal being produced by the card.

As to the original post, you could use a minijack to RCA phono lead to use the digital ins & outs on your sound card & speakers, but I'm not sure if you'd get 5.1 sound, probably just stereo.

Also I don't why there'd be any problem with DVD Audio over SPDIF/optical.
And no, DVD audio cannot use a digital connection.
Not usually, but last time I checked there was a workaround.

see above post, and there are usually DTS/DD tracks on DVD-audio discs so that will work. The DVD-Audio format itself will not however.
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