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PurdueRy

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Originally posted by: virtualgames0
Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Canon > *

I vote SD450.

Can't go wrong with a Canon.

I love my canon SD200. And my parents love their Canon A75. The A75 even survived a few seconds submerged in a lake. I wouldn't buy anything but Canon cameras. The SD 450 looks awsome.

Pretty much sums up the canon fanboys on these forums.
If you're trying to look for an accurate and objective consensus on these forums for cameras, I don't think you'll get it ;)

Anyways, I doubt most people voting even know about more than 1-2 cameras on that list at most, so they'll generally choose what they know. So I think it's best that you do research yourself and find what suits you best rather than look for a consensus here.

Anyways, I chose the Casio Exlim.


And you being an anti-canon person makes your opinion just as biased. There is a reason people recommend Canon, and that reason is is they have a history of fine cameras that consistently review among the top in the consumer models. While the first comment you quoted may be excessive the last is certainly valid. A person who has loved their experience with a camera should never have his opinion be called one of a "fanboy".

So instead of lowering yourself to the level of the Canon fanboys, you recommend the Casio. Lets look at the review...

If the Exilim EX-S500's photo quality was better I'd have no problem recommending it. However, it consistently disappointed me where other cameras do not. While it has a lot of potential, your money would be better spent on another camera.

What I liked:

* Ultra-thin metal body comes in three colors
* Above average 2.2" LCD display
* Robust performance
* Anti-shake system (though see issues below)
* Limited manual controls
* AF-assist lamp; good low light focusing
* Excellent movie mode
* Tons of scene modes

What I didn't care for:

* Very soft and noisy images
* Electronic image stabilizer doesn't work as well as optically based systems; cannot be used in movie mode
* High ISO settings are too noisy and camera likes to use them with certain Best Shot modes
* Unimpressive continuous shooting mode
* LCD resolution could be better
* Weak flash
* USB and video out requires use of camera dock
* No memory card included; just 8.3 MB of on-board memory
* Full camera manual only on CD-ROM


Not exactly stellar...

Now lets take a look at Canon's review

Overall I recommend the SD400, but if you can swing it, I'd buy the SD500 instead. While it's a bit bigger, it takes better pictures and has both a more powerful flash and a longer-lasting battery.

What I liked:

* Very good photo quality (though see issues below)
* Compact and very thin metal body
* Blazing performance
* First rate movie and continuous shooting modes
* Unique My Colors feature
* LCD visible in low light
* AF-assist lamp; good low light focusing
* USB 2.0 High Speed support
* Optional underwater case and external slave flash

What I didn't care for:

* Images noisier/softer than I would've liked
* Redeye
* Some corner softness and purple fringing
* Cheap plastic door over memory card / battery compartment
* Battery life isn't great
* Can't swap memory cards while camera is on a tripod
* More manual controls would be nice
* Tiny memory card included


This is from the SD400 review as they have not yet rated the 450, but seeing as they are based on the same camera, I would have to say it will be similar(sans larger screen and such)

Lastly, here is the 620 review summary:

I've pretty much slipped all of my complaints into the preceding paragraphs, which is great news for the A620. This is one of the best cameras in its class, offering something for just about everyone, from beginner to enthusiast. If you want a midsized camera that won't require a second mortgage, the PowerShot A620 is definitely worth a look.

What I liked:

* Excellent photo quality
* Full manual controls
* Flip-out, rotating LCD display; LCD visible in low light
* Impressive performance
* AF-assist lamp
* Very good movie and continuous shooting features (with appropriate memory card)
* Excellent battery life (with decent NiMH batteries)
* Support for conversion lenses and external slave flash
* Camera can be controller from your Mac or PC
* USB 2.0 High Speed support
* Unique My Colors feature

What I didn't care for:

* Redeye
* ISO 400 doesn't seem to be usable
* No rechargeable batteries included
* No diopter correction knob; plastic tripod mount


Better than the others! This is mainly because of the problems with ultra-compact cameras. However, it is another excellent camera.


Now unfortunately, unlike the others, you can't just call me a Canon fanboy and say my opinion is crap. I voted for the SD450 earlier, but as you can see I also mentioned that I think the Z1 deserves more attention than it was getting. The Sony has lots of problems with redeye, soft images and a weak flash, so I couldn't recommend that. I have not had any one on one experience with the Olympus so I can't comment on that model.

So, as you can see, there is a reason people SHOULD recommend Canon cameras. Maybe they shouldn't say that they are better than every other camera out there, but they are usually a "safe bet". I can't see how you can recommend the Casio over the Z1 and 450 with reviews like that.

In summary, OP take a look at the Canon SD450 and Fuji Z1, I think you will like both and just choose whichever is better for you.
 

PurdueRy

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Originally posted by: virtualgames0
I'm not saying Canon cameras are bad, but that's the only brand most people actually even consider here.
I have an SD200 myself to be honest.
The tests are all subjective anyways.
If you look at steves-digicams, they rate the Casio over the SD400. :roll:
http://www.steves-digicams.com/best_cameras.html

This site has some pretty nice pictures taken with the Casio.
http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/cda/weekend/2005/08/05/2047.html

"Cameras are not listed in order of preference"

No where on that site do they rate the Casio higher than the Canon.

With the Canon being easier to find in stores, and cheaper(SD400) I would say that is still the OP's best buy
 

doma

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ok i updated the topic after eliminating some of the choices...i am left with these to choose from????
 

PurdueRy

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I personally wouldn't elimnate the Fuji Z1 until you go use it. I was thinking about getting a ultracompact camera and the Canon SD400 and Fuji Z1 were at the top of my list. I would go try it out before you ride it off like that
 

doma

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Originally posted by: PurdueRy
I personally wouldn't elimnate the Fuji Z1 until you go use it. I was thinking about getting a ultracompact camera and the Canon SD400 and Fuji Z1 were at the top of my list. I would go try it out before you ride it off like that

i did try it at best buy last night printed pictures and everything off of it...i didn't like it at much as the Casio Exilim...I just wished that the Z2 came out or even the casio exilim s600 at best buy at least...i would realy be interested in one of those
 

PurdueRy

Lifer
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Originally posted by: doma
Originally posted by: PurdueRy
I personally wouldn't elimnate the Fuji Z1 until you go use it. I was thinking about getting a ultracompact camera and the Canon SD400 and Fuji Z1 were at the top of my list. I would go try it out before you ride it off like that

i did try it at best buy last night printed pictures and everything off of it...i didn't like it at much as the Casio Exilim...I just wished that the Z2 came out or even the casio exilim s600 at best buy at least...i would realy be interested in one of those


Alright well as long as you tried it. :thumbsup:

Did you try the Canon?
 

jiwq

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bring a mem card and try all 3 of em at the store and bring the card back home to see which one comes out best :)
 

doma

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yes...both the sd550 which me and my brother bought for my mom and the sd450...but i am still undecided each has it's own pros
 

JinLien

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Go to the local store and try out the 3 cameras that you had narrowed down to, then make your decision base on that. I had own many pro to amateur photo equipment from 4x5, medium format, SLR 35mm, TLR 35mm, ½ frame minox, polaroid, P&S 35mm cameras in the past & currently.

I have learned in order of important; that ease of use/controls, comfort of camera in hand, sharpness of lens, weight, and quality of finish. I use to enjoy the ½ frame minox because it was a great pocket camera that is light small, however the Stylus became my favorite once it first came out on the market. The Stylus award wining design focus on every important aspect of a P&S camera that a consumer wants, and it is inexpensive enough that most consumer can negate the slightly less in sharpness/colour reproduction/quality of finish that expensive Yashica/Contax/Leica produce.
 

doma

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So I was in Best Buy today looking at the cameras and I saw the Nikon P2 Wi-FI...what a cool feature plus the camera took nice pictures and looked pretty sweet...I think i will either go with this one or the Canon SD450????
 

doma

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bump bump it up...I think i have made my choice but I could still go to the other I want to see if it is what everyone else thinks...
 

Ornery

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Call your local Sears. Mine had three DSC-V1's in stock for $279.00. If yours has one in stock BUY IT! It's Sears, so very easy to return if you don't like it. For under $300.00 you get:
  • Pocketable camera with 4X optical zoom with Zeiss lens
  • NightShot using on-camera IR illumination and enhanced ISO along with imaging chip IR sensitivity elevation techniques.
  • Night Framing using a small laser projected holographic pattern that can focus on nearby subjects (think 10 - 20 feet or so) in complete and utter darkness.
  • Accessory intelligent hot shoe.
  • Metal body with plastic access hatches.
  • Self-capping fold-up lens that doesn't screw up.
  • Threaded mount for converter lenses.
  • A laser holographic pattern projector helps you focus in total darkness.
Basically a no brainer.