Digital Camera w/ 60fps recording? *Besides Canon*

[TimeKeeper]

Is there any other digital camera capable of recording 60fps@320X240 besides Canon SD Digic II series?

I have the older SD200, which I am pretty happy with it.

One of the most important feature for me is capable of recording short movie w/ 60fps.

AND adjustable shutter speed into 10 seconds range. (so I can do night shot like this.... http://www.wretch.cc/album/album.php?id=waleele&book=1 )

Now my cousin want my camera, so it is time for me to upgrade a new one.
(For me good 3MP is enough. And I do NOT have unlimited budget like you guys.)

 

[eXx08]

Why no Canon?

I have the PowerShot A520 and it is great. 4MP and very good picture.

 

[EagleEye]

Originally posted by: Opteron Guy
Why no Canon?

I have the PowerShot A520 and it is great. 4MP and very good picture.

I think the A520 does 15 fps movies though I could be mistaken.

But still, the A520 is a very nice camera.

 

[TimeKeeper]

Originally posted by: EagleEye

Originally posted by: Opteron Guy
Why no Canon?

I have the PowerShot A520 and it is great. 4MP and very good picture.

I think the A520 does 15 fps movies though I could be mistaken.

But still, the A520 is a very nice camera.

NO..I love Canon. Specially the ability for fully manual adjustment.
I just like to know if there is other camera in the market. I just want to open my option.

 

[bob4432]

just out of curiosity, why would you want 60fps @ 320x240?

 

[TimeKeeper]

Originally posted by: bob4432
just out of curiosity, why would you want 60fps @ 320x240?

it is just a nice feature if I want to record some actual footage.
like in the wedding, record someone's funny dancing, or relatives greeting.

On the other hand, it is like you have been using 1280X1024 resolution, you wouldn't go back to 800X600, would you?

 

[SynthDude2001]

Wouldn't 30fps be sufficient for "real" video? I find that it is anyway... (I use an S1 IS, 640x480 @30fps video limited to 1GB file sizes per clip, which ends up being 8-9 minutes or so)

 

[TimeKeeper]

Originally posted by: SynthDude2001
Wouldn't 30fps be sufficient for "real" video? I find that it is anyway... (I use an S1 IS, 640x480 @30fps video limited to 1GB file sizes per clip, which ends up being 8-9 minutes or so)

actually, 30fps by comparison still "laggy". That is if I don't move the camera around while recording, the image will be adequate.
But if I happened to be walking while recording then the image become unbareable.

Last X'mas we were on the ski slop, I tried to record my family while down the blue-diamond only. The movie w/ 30fps just can't cut it.

 

[alimoalem]

are you interested in higher resolutions? cause there's always a camcorder. or do you want to be able to take pics too?

 

[TimeKeeper]

Originally posted by: alimoalem
are you interested in higher resolutions? cause there's always a camcorder. or do you want to be able to take pics too?

Picture taking is extremely important me. For some reason I like to take Night shot or extremely close up shot ( watch's dial, phone's circuit board) And I honestly not thinking spending more than $300 (ok ok, this is more of Ebay pricing standard and New SD200 cost around $200 only)

 

[bob4432]

the reason i asked abot the fps is because my mini dv cam is 30fps @ 720x480 and the video quality is excellent, even with fast movement of the camera (like when my wife shoots video )

 

[randomlinh]

Originally posted by: bob4432
the reason i asked abot the fps is because my mini dv cam is 30fps @ 720x480 and the video quality is excellent, even with fast movement of the camera (like when my wife shoots video )

that's cause you have a freakin camcorder, it was designed to do so

 

[bob4432]

op, why not get a good video camera and a good still camera? prices have gone down and if you do it this way you will get your video in 720x480 mode? my video is a sony pc5, and my still is a canon s70, both are extremely small and quality is excellent (albeit witht he pc5 being so small, it does suffer indoors a bit)

 

[TimeKeeper]

Originally posted by: bob4432
op, why not get a good video camera and a good still camera? prices have gone down and if you do it this way you will get your video in 720x480 mode? my video is a sony pc5, and my still is a canon s70, both are extremely small and quality is excellent (albeit witht he pc5 being so small, it does suffer indoors a bit)

hmm... DV w/ all the manual adjustment digital camera, I am pretty sure it doesn't really exist yet. ( at least not in my price range)

I did consider Sony M1, after I test it, I was suprise it doesn't do anything "right".

 

[rancherlee]

My Olympus C-7000 takes 640x480@30fps Quicktime and its isn't choppy at all, 15fps is though. Heck most all video cams are only 30fps also.

 

[bob4432]

Originally posted by: TimeKeeper

Originally posted by: bob4432
op, why not get a good video camera and a good still camera? prices have gone down and if you do it this way you will get your video in 720x480 mode? my video is a sony pc5, and my still is a canon s70, both are extremely small and quality is excellent (albeit witht he pc5 being so small, it does suffer indoors a bit)

hmm... DV w/ all the manual adjustment digital camera, I am pretty sure it doesn't really exist yet. ( at least not in my price range)

I did consider Sony M1, after I test it, I was suprise it doesn't do anything "right".

i mean 2 seperate cameras...

my cameras are not the best or newest, but my mini dv camera has excellent video quality, especially outdoors, news like (not hd, but sd) but it does suck when taking stills.

again my still takes excellent stills

i don't if you get one you will be happy as it will have to compromise to get 2 uses.

 

[TimeKeeper]

Originally posted by: bob4432

Originally posted by: TimeKeeper

Originally posted by: bob4432
op, why not get a good video camera and a good still camera? prices have gone down and if you do it this way you will get your video in 720x480 mode? my video is a sony pc5, and my still is a canon s70, both are extremely small and quality is excellent (albeit witht he pc5 being so small, it does suffer indoors a bit)

hmm... DV w/ all the manual adjustment digital camera, I am pretty sure it doesn't really exist yet. ( at least not in my price range)

I did consider Sony M1, after I test it, I was suprise it doesn't do anything "right".

i mean 2 seperate cameras...

my cameras are not the best or newest, but my mini dv camera has excellent video quality, especially outdoors, news like (not hd, but sd) but it does suck when taking stills.

again my still takes excellent stills

i don't if you get one you will be happy as it will have to compromise to get 2 uses.

argh..my mistake. But I like to keep it simple when I am on the trip.
And I did have JVC mini DV which I sold to fellow member. (just not very practical since most of time, I just need short clip on certain event)

 

[vegetation]

Originally posted by: TimeKeeper

Originally posted by: SynthDude2001
Wouldn't 30fps be sufficient for "real" video? I find that it is anyway... (I use an S1 IS, 640x480 @30fps video limited to 1GB file sizes per clip, which ends up being 8-9 minutes or so)

actually, 30fps by comparison still "laggy". That is if I don't move the camera around while recording, the image will be adequate.
But if I happened to be walking while recording then the image become unbareable.

Last X'mas we were on the ski slop, I tried to record my family while down the blue-diamond only. The movie w/ 30fps just can't cut it.

Likely your camera isn't really shooting 30fps if it's laggy, or perhaps your memory card is too slow and is skipping frames. Not at all an unusual situation for cameras shooting in video mode. I'll just say that my Canon S1's video at 640 resolution 30fps is smooth as any camcorder.

 

[bob4432]

Originally posted by: TimeKeeper

Originally posted by: bob4432

Originally posted by: TimeKeeper

Originally posted by: bob4432
op, why not get a good video camera and a good still camera? prices have gone down and if you do it this way you will get your video in 720x480 mode? my video is a sony pc5, and my still is a canon s70, both are extremely small and quality is excellent (albeit witht he pc5 being so small, it does suffer indoors a bit)

hmm... DV w/ all the manual adjustment digital camera, I am pretty sure it doesn't really exist yet. ( at least not in my price range)

I did consider Sony M1, after I test it, I was suprise it doesn't do anything "right".

i mean 2 seperate cameras...

my cameras are not the best or newest, but my mini dv camera has excellent video quality, especially outdoors, news like (not hd, but sd) but it does suck when taking stills.

again my still takes excellent stills

i don't if you get one you will be happy as it will have to compromise to get 2 uses.

argh..my mistake. But I like to keep it simple when I am on the trip.
And I did have JVC mini DV which I sold to fellow member. (just not very practical since most of time, I just need short clip on certain event)

i hear you, but i dont' think there is one out there yet that does both as good as 2 seperate cameras. to make things a little simplier you could always get both from the same manf that way you may be able to use the same batteries for both cameras....

good luck

 

[TimeKeeper]

i hear you, but i dont' think there is one out there yet that does both as good as 2 seperate cameras. to make things a little simplier you could always get both from the same manf that way you may be able to use the same batteries for both cameras....

good luck

There is JVC GR-X5 (5MP digital camera) or Everio (2MP image resolution actual go head to head w/ Sony T3)............however, I can't afford either one of them.

Anyone else know any Digital camera w/ high speed camcorder in $300 range?

 

[flexy]

Originally posted by: TimeKeeper

Originally posted by: SynthDude2001
Wouldn't 30fps be sufficient for "real" video? I find that it is anyway... (I use an S1 IS, 640x480 @30fps video limited to 1GB file sizes per clip, which ends up being 8-9 minutes or so)

actually, 30fps by comparison still "laggy". That is if I don't move the camera around while recording, the image will be adequate.
But if I happened to be walking while recording then the image become unbareable.

Last X'mas we were on the ski slop, I tried to record my family while down the blue-diamond only. The movie w/ 30fps just can't cut it.

if my *** powershot did 30fps i would be lucky. Dont forget that movies are usually shot a 24 fps. My old Powershot does 15FPS...640x480....every pan/move etc. is a pain in the a$$.

Btw. 15fps is horrible and you say 30fps is horrible..but then you want only 320x240 ? IMHO 640x480 at 30fps is much better.

And then there are still programs like steadycam or virtual dub filters for stabilizing the movie afterwards.

 

[TimeKeeper]

if my *** powershot did 30fps i would be lucky. Dont forget that movies are usually shot a 24 fps. My old Powershot does 15FPS...640x480....every pan/move etc. is a pain in the a$$.

Btw. 15fps is horrible and you say 30fps is horrible..but then you want only 320x240 ? IMHO 640x480 at 30fps is much better.

And then there are still programs like steadycam or virtual dub filters for stabilizing the movie afterwards.

I don't quite understand your point here.
I do have 640x480@30FPS and 320X240@60FPS movie clip shot at identical enviroment for comparison. I am sure you are an expert w/ movie editing or what not, but I am just looking for something easy to use and quick burn into a CD w/out extra work.

 

[bob4432]

Originally posted by: flexy

Originally posted by: TimeKeeper

Originally posted by: SynthDude2001
Wouldn't 30fps be sufficient for "real" video? I find that it is anyway... (I use an S1 IS, 640x480 @30fps video limited to 1GB file sizes per clip, which ends up being 8-9 minutes or so)

actually, 30fps by comparison still "laggy". That is if I don't move the camera around while recording, the image will be adequate.
But if I happened to be walking while recording then the image become unbareable.

Last X'mas we were on the ski slop, I tried to record my family while down the blue-diamond only. The movie w/ 30fps just can't cut it.

if my *** powershot did 30fps i would be lucky. Dont forget that movies are usually shot a 24 fps. My old Powershot does 15FPS...640x480....every pan/move etc. is a pain in the a$$.

Btw. 15fps is horrible and you say 30fps is horrible..but then you want only 320x240 ? IMHO 640x480 at 30fps is much better.

And then there are still programs like steadycam or virtual dub filters for stabilizing the movie afterwards.

if you are talking real movies they may be shot @ 24fps but on 100,000s of dollars of camera equipment that is in rails and is perfectly steady. dv video is shot at 29.97 fps @ 720x480.....

i still get 2 cameras, 1 video and 1 still...