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For $800, it sounds a bit pricey. But consider half the reason I plan on going this route: no subscription fees. Ever.
Tivo cannot say that, unless you tack on a $400 lifetime service fee, which places their HD units right around the cost of the Moxi, depending on HDD size.
Cable companies cannot say that. You never even own the STB, rather you just keep pumping money toward the cable company.
I dislike both options. I want to own the box, but because I am owning it, I refuse to pay a monthly fee. It's my box dammit. The subscription fee is nothing more than a way for Tivo to get more money out of the consumer, so that they can sell the STB for cheap. Otherwise it'd be right up there with the Moxi.
So my options that I can see at this point:
pay around $700 for a Tivo HD w/ lifetime service. But the UI is ugly, outdated, and rather slow. I've always disliked Tivo's because of the UI (and service fee).
On the other hand, the Moxi HD DVR has pretty high quality components, and from what I have read, has a responsive and great-looking UI, and some nice UI features not found in other products.
Yes, it lacks Netflix and a few other services that Tivo offers. However, I do not own Netflix, and I dislike the idea of streaming anyway (and is why I haven't switched from Blockbuster to Netflix - I get online and in-store rentals for Blu-ray with no extra charge).
And for other features, it does sound like Digeo/Moxi might want to add features through firmware updates. About the only thing it does not have that I would love to see is the ability to access content stored on the STB (or on an external E-SATA drive that can be used to expand storage from the current 500gb), as in streaming to other devices (computer) or the use of archiving onto a computer and taking them off the DVR.
Aside from that, I would love to see support to add videos onto the device, or to stream them. Such as h.264, mpeg4, xvid/divx, mpeg2, and possibly support for the various container files (avi, mkv, mp4, etc). But I can just continue to use my PS3 for that, and that'll be much easier now as I just recently got a 500gb 2.5" portable HDD.
Basically, I am asking: I've been missing DVR use, and with now having HD cable, I don't want to update my HTPC/PVR I previously used for SD capture, as I couldn't make it a direct capture PVR and thus the image quality would suffer. And by time I built the rig to handle surround sound and video through HDMI, and keep up with recording, especially dual tuner, I am sure the Moxi would come in at a better deal. Only thing lacking would be the PC aspect of the HTPC, but I rarely use them anyway as sitting 6 feet from a 32" 720p set makes browsing the web and using PC features rather cumbersome, and to get it to handle PC gaming would require even more money. And with the light internet features that the Moxi is capable of, such as the ticker that can be activated, it would basically fulfill everything I need, and possible firmware updates could bring more, but I won't bank on that, rather just end up surprised. My PS3 can handle the rest for me, like adding video content if need be.
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For $800, it sounds a bit pricey. But consider half the reason I plan on going this route: no subscription fees. Ever.
Tivo cannot say that, unless you tack on a $400 lifetime service fee, which places their HD units right around the cost of the Moxi, depending on HDD size.
Cable companies cannot say that. You never even own the STB, rather you just keep pumping money toward the cable company.
I dislike both options. I want to own the box, but because I am owning it, I refuse to pay a monthly fee. It's my box dammit. The subscription fee is nothing more than a way for Tivo to get more money out of the consumer, so that they can sell the STB for cheap. Otherwise it'd be right up there with the Moxi.
So my options that I can see at this point:
pay around $700 for a Tivo HD w/ lifetime service. But the UI is ugly, outdated, and rather slow. I've always disliked Tivo's because of the UI (and service fee).
On the other hand, the Moxi HD DVR has pretty high quality components, and from what I have read, has a responsive and great-looking UI, and some nice UI features not found in other products.
Yes, it lacks Netflix and a few other services that Tivo offers. However, I do not own Netflix, and I dislike the idea of streaming anyway (and is why I haven't switched from Blockbuster to Netflix - I get online and in-store rentals for Blu-ray with no extra charge).
And for other features, it does sound like Digeo/Moxi might want to add features through firmware updates. About the only thing it does not have that I would love to see is the ability to access content stored on the STB (or on an external E-SATA drive that can be used to expand storage from the current 500gb), as in streaming to other devices (computer) or the use of archiving onto a computer and taking them off the DVR.
Aside from that, I would love to see support to add videos onto the device, or to stream them. Such as h.264, mpeg4, xvid/divx, mpeg2, and possibly support for the various container files (avi, mkv, mp4, etc). But I can just continue to use my PS3 for that, and that'll be much easier now as I just recently got a 500gb 2.5" portable HDD.
Basically, I am asking: I've been missing DVR use, and with now having HD cable, I don't want to update my HTPC/PVR I previously used for SD capture, as I couldn't make it a direct capture PVR and thus the image quality would suffer. And by time I built the rig to handle surround sound and video through HDMI, and keep up with recording, especially dual tuner, I am sure the Moxi would come in at a better deal. Only thing lacking would be the PC aspect of the HTPC, but I rarely use them anyway as sitting 6 feet from a 32" 720p set makes browsing the web and using PC features rather cumbersome, and to get it to handle PC gaming would require even more money. And with the light internet features that the Moxi is capable of, such as the ticker that can be activated, it would basically fulfill everything I need, and possible firmware updates could bring more, but I won't bank on that, rather just end up surprised. My PS3 can handle the rest for me, like adding video content if need be.
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