Dig a space, someone steals it? How to handle it?

[Legendary]

If it's so important to you, shovel their driveway so they can put their car in.

 

[NuAlphaMan]

Originally posted by: Remedy

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
Unless the laws have changed and you somehow managed to find a wat to own the street, be a man and quit sniveling. You did not "dig a space", you dug your own car out, nothing more. That does not entitle you to that area for perpetuity. What are you, 6 years old? WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!! MOMMY!!!!! The mean people took my spot!!!

It wasn't your spot, it's a public street.

The street is public, but they have a driveway of their own. It's not my fault they don't want to dig out their own snow from their driveway to get their vehicles in and out of. You can't just have a driveway, not use it, park in front of our house that we pay property tax on and then sit there on it as if it is ok. Because, if I parked my vehicle in front of their driveway, they wouldn't like it and would ask me to remove it.

Now, if I had my own driveway, it wouldn't actually bother me. But, I don't and the city won't grant us a permit to do so.

When the space had piles of snow on it, they didn't park there. But, now that the space has been shoveled out cleanly by me, they go ahead and occupy it? No. This is Boston, not the suburbs. You can't just walk up and confront someone about a situation like this unless you want it to be come physical.

If I don't remove the ice from in front of my property, and someone slipped on it. They can actually sue me for not removing the ice. Because the property is not just public, but it belongs to US. We're responsible for it. So, If I decided to shovel 50 feet of snow and ice from in front of my house, and put a trashcan there, then it belongs to US. Not them, Not the General Public.

That's all well and good, but the street is different from you side walk. You do own the side walk in front of your house, but you don't own the street. Yeah, it sucks big time, but the guy has every right to park there. The street is free game.

 

[GagHalfrunt]

Originally posted by: Remedy

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
Unless the laws have changed and you somehow managed to find a wat to own the street, be a man and quit sniveling. You did not "dig a space", you dug your own car out, nothing more. That does not entitle you to that area for perpetuity. What are you, 6 years old? WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!! MOMMY!!!!! The mean people took my spot!!!

It wasn't your spot, it's a public street.

The street is public, but they have a driveway of their own. It's not my fault they don't want to dig out their own snow from their driveway to get their vehicles in and out of. You can't just have a driveway, not use it, park in front of our house that we pay property tax on and then sit there on it as if it is ok. Because, if I parked my vehicle in front of their driveway, they wouldn't like it and would ask me to remove it.

Now, if I had my own driveway, it wouldn't actually bother me. But, I don't and the city won't grant us a permit to do so.

When the space had piles of snow on it, they didn't park there. But, now that the space has been shoveled out cleanly by me, they go ahead and occupy it? No. This is Boston, not the suburbs. You can't just walk up and confront someone about a situation like this unless you want it to be come physical.

If I don't remove the ice from in front of my property, and someone slipped on it. They can actually sue me for not removing the ice. Because the property is not just public, but it belongs to US. We're responsible for it. So, If I decided to shovel 50 feet of snow and ice from in front of my house, and put a trashcan there, then it belongs to US. Not them, Not the General Public.

1) Doesn't matter that they have a driveway. Using your own driveway is not mandatory. They're free to park anywhere it's legal and in this case, they did.

2) Parking in front of a driveway is completely, 100% different. That's illegal. You can not legally park in front of their driveway, but you can legally park at the curb in front of their house even if you have a driveway of your own.

3) You can't just walk up and confront them about it because you're so hopelessly, cluelessly wrong.

4) You are legally responsible for removing the ice from YOUR PROPERTY. That's your driveway, your sidewalk, your porch, etc. You are not legally obligated to clean the street since you don't own it. That's the whole part of this little story that you just don't seem to have the brainpower to understand. YOU DON'T OWN THE STREET. Shoveling it doesn't bestow you any extra rights. Sanding it doesn't bestow you any extra rights. Leaving a stupid trashcan doesn't bestow you any extra rights. It's public property.

 

[Abe Froman]

Originally posted by: thirdeye
Tell them to move their vehicle, if they don't. Start dumping buckets of water on it. It won't hurt the car, but it'll at least give them a taste of what you had to deal with to get out of the spot.

Don't ask them anything, or they will know you did it...

http://www.anglerstimes.co.uk/Frozen-car%20WEB.jpg

 

[Abe Froman]

Originally posted by: thirdeye
Tell them to move their vehicle, if they don't. Start dumping buckets of water on it. It won't hurt the car, but it'll at least give them a taste of what you had to deal with to get out of the spot.

Don't ask them anything, or they will know you did it...

http://www.anglerstimes.co.uk/Frozen-car%20WEB.jpg

 

[Remedy]

Originally posted by: state 08
Ok, I know a lot of you guys saying the the public street ISN'T his, even though he has no driveway, but comn', that is bullsh1t.

He's a guy that has no driveway, spent 45min digging his car out, and essentially, it's his one and only space to park.

Even though the law allows the other guy to park in his spot, it just doesn't seem fair.

If I were you, I'd ask them to move the car. If he declines, I'd probably just put the snow on the outter part of the parking space to make it look like a snow plow truck came through and boxed his car in.

Finally someone that understands the situation.

I've asked before for him to move it, but it's like they don't comprehend English. Only when they want to.

I have a small caliber pistol, so I'm going to try this in a nicer manner until go to plan B.

 

[AaronB]

Op, if you know for a fact that he would ask you to remove your vehicle if you park in front of his house then why should it be a problem to ask him to remove his? Or do you not really know if your statement is true?

 

[manicfool]

Originally posted by: cyclistca
It's not your space. It belongs to the city. You just removed the snow from it. Yes it sucks that someone else is parking there. But life sucks sometime. Since it's your neighbor you could try speaking to him. However don't be surprised if he laughs in your face.

What possible reason on earth would the guy who appropriated this mans hard work and sweat as his own parking space have to laugh in his face? Seriously. . .think about that. It would take a truly evil person full of rage and spite to do something like that and as such they would deserve whatever consequences might befall them for such an inhumane and intentionally glib attitude. You have to be a real piece of $h!t to do something like that. Seriously. ..

 

[jiggahertz]

Originally posted by: Remedy

Originally posted by: state 08
Ok, I know a lot of you guys saying the the public street ISN'T his, even though he has no driveway, but comn', that is bullsh1t.

He's a guy that has no driveway, spent 45min digging his car out, and essentially, it's his one and only space to park.

Even though the law allows the other guy to park in his spot, it just doesn't seem fair.

If I were you, I'd ask them to move the car. If he declines, I'd probably just put the snow on the outter part of the parking space to make it look like a snow plow truck came through and boxed his car in.

Finally someone that understands the situation.

I've asked before for him to move it, but it's like they don't comprehend English. Only when they want to.

I have a small caliber pistol, so I'm going to try this in a nicer manner until go to plan B.

I don't think anyone in this thread does not understand the situation. I will add though, that a large portion of the population in Boston seems to think reserving spots with cones, chairs, garbage cans, etc entitles them to that spot.

 

[Abe Froman]

Originally posted by: jiggahertz

Originally posted by: Remedy

Originally posted by: state 08
Ok, I know a lot of you guys saying the the public street ISN'T his, even though he has no driveway, but comn', that is bullsh1t.

He's a guy that has no driveway, spent 45min digging his car out, and essentially, it's his one and only space to park.

Even though the law allows the other guy to park in his spot, it just doesn't seem fair.

If I were you, I'd ask them to move the car. If he declines, I'd probably just put the snow on the outter part of the parking space to make it look like a snow plow truck came through and boxed his car in.

Finally someone that understands the situation.

I've asked before for him to move it, but it's like they don't comprehend English. Only when they want to.

I have a small caliber pistol, so I'm going to try this in a nicer manner until go to plan B.

I don't think anyone in this thread does not understand the situation. I will add though, that a large portion of the population in Boston seems to think reserving spots with cones, chairs, garbage cans, etc entitles them to that spot.

My old roommate is from Chicago, and he has all sorts of stories about that from when he lived in Wrigleyville. Peoples tires get slashed, their windows get broken. If the chair is there, it's best to just move on.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: Canai
dump the trash can on their car ?

 

[MisterJackson]

Originally posted by: manicfool

Originally posted by: cyclistca
It's not your space. It belongs to the city. You just removed the snow from it. Yes it sucks that someone else is parking there. But life sucks sometime. Since it's your neighbor you could try speaking to him. However don't be surprised if he laughs in your face.

What possible reason on earth would the guy who appropriated this mans hard work and sweat as his own parking space have to laugh in his face? Seriously. . .think about that. It would take a truly evil person full of rage and spite to do something like that and as such they would deserve whatever consequences might befall them for such an inhumane and intentionally glib attitude. You have to be a real piece of $h!t to do something like that. Seriously. ..

You don't get out much do you?

 

[KK]

Originally posted by: Abe Froman

Originally posted by: jiggahertz

Originally posted by: Remedy

Originally posted by: state 08
Ok, I know a lot of you guys saying the the public street ISN'T his, even though he has no driveway, but comn', that is bullsh1t.

He's a guy that has no driveway, spent 45min digging his car out, and essentially, it's his one and only space to park.

Even though the law allows the other guy to park in his spot, it just doesn't seem fair.

If I were you, I'd ask them to move the car. If he declines, I'd probably just put the snow on the outter part of the parking space to make it look like a snow plow truck came through and boxed his car in.

Finally someone that understands the situation.

I've asked before for him to move it, but it's like they don't comprehend English. Only when they want to.

I have a small caliber pistol, so I'm going to try this in a nicer manner until go to plan B.

I don't think anyone in this thread does not understand the situation. I will add though, that a large portion of the population in Boston seems to think reserving spots with cones, chairs, garbage cans, etc entitles them to that spot.

My old roommate is from Chicago, and he has all sorts of stories about that from when he lived in Wrigleyville. Peoples tires get slashed, their windows get broken. If the chair is there, it's best to just move on.

:thumbsup:

 

[GagHalfrunt]

I think OP should just call the police. If he's got a valid complaint they'll handle it. If not and he's just being a whiny little child they can get the pleasure of laughing him as much as the rest of us are.

 

[homercles337]

Originally posted by: Remedy

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
Unless the laws have changed and you somehow managed to find a wat to own the street, be a man and quit sniveling. You did not "dig a space", you dug your own car out, nothing more. That does not entitle you to that area for perpetuity. What are you, 6 years old? WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!! MOMMY!!!!! The mean people took my spot!!!

It wasn't your spot, it's a public street.

The street is public, but they have a driveway of their own. It's not my fault they don't want to dig out their own snow from their driveway to get their vehicles in and out of. You can't just have a driveway, not use it, park in front of our house that we pay property tax on and then sit there on it as if it is ok. Because, if I parked my vehicle in front of their driveway, they wouldn't like it and would ask me to remove it.

Now, if I had my own driveway, it wouldn't actually bother me. But, I don't and the city won't grant us a permit to do so.

When the space had piles of snow on it, they didn't park there. But, now that the space has been shoveled out cleanly by me, they go ahead and occupy it? No. This is Boston, not the suburbs. You can't just walk up and confront someone about a situation like this unless you want it to be come physical.

If I don't remove the ice from in front of my property, and someone slipped on it. They can actually sue me for not removing the ice. Because the property is not just public, but it belongs to US. We're responsible for it. So, If I decided to shovel 50 feet of snow and ice from in front of my house, and put a trashcan there, then it belongs to US. Not them, Not the General Public.

Where did you throw the snow that you moved? To the sidewalk? Why dont YOU think of those people like me that dont drive and walk? How dare you throw snow on MY sidewalk! :|

Get over it d00d, its not YOUR spot. Heres an idea, sell the car and use the T.

 

[RedArmy]

Geez Remedy, if little things like this upset you then I'd hate to see what you're like when something that's actually serious happens. You act as if you should get some reward for shoveling out your own car. I spent 45 minutes shoveling out my friends car yesterday with no benefit to myself. I didn't expect anything in return, especially not some uber awesome parking space. If nothing else comes out of this situation, you built character...

Edit: Do they even know that you spent that long shoveling your car out or are you assuming that they are just all knowing individuals? I see no mention of it in the OP.

Edit 2: Ah, I think I get it. A trash can as a marker...very clever. I'd move one too if I saw it, albeit not huff it far like they appeared to have done.

 

[GagHalfrunt]

Originally posted by: RedArmy
If nothing else comes out of this situation, you built character

I think his sniveling here has proven that he's a long way from that happening.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: Abe Froman

Originally posted by: jiggahertz

Originally posted by: Remedy

Originally posted by: state 08
Ok, I know a lot of you guys saying the the public street ISN'T his, even though he has no driveway, but comn', that is bullsh1t.

He's a guy that has no driveway, spent 45min digging his car out, and essentially, it's his one and only space to park.

Even though the law allows the other guy to park in his spot, it just doesn't seem fair.

If I were you, I'd ask them to move the car. If he declines, I'd probably just put the snow on the outter part of the parking space to make it look like a snow plow truck came through and boxed his car in.

Finally someone that understands the situation.

I've asked before for him to move it, but it's like they don't comprehend English. Only when they want to.

I have a small caliber pistol, so I'm going to try this in a nicer manner until go to plan B.

I don't think anyone in this thread does not understand the situation. I will add though, that a large portion of the population in Boston seems to think reserving spots with cones, chairs, garbage cans, etc entitles them to that spot.

My old roommate is from Chicago, and he has all sorts of stories about that from when he lived in Wrigleyville. Peoples tires get slashed, their windows get broken. If the chair is there, it's best to just move on.

yeap. i got friends that live in Chicago. you do not move anyones place holder. its not a good idea.

 

[Remedy]

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt

Originally posted by: Remedy

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
Unless the laws have changed and you somehow managed to find a wat to own the street, be a man and quit sniveling. You did not "dig a space", you dug your own car out, nothing more. That does not entitle you to that area for perpetuity. What are you, 6 years old? WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!! MOMMY!!!!! The mean people took my spot!!!

It wasn't your spot, it's a public street.

The street is public, but they have a driveway of their own. It's not my fault they don't want to dig out their own snow from their driveway to get their vehicles in and out of. You can't just have a driveway, not use it, park in front of our house that we pay property tax on and then sit there on it as if it is ok. Because, if I parked my vehicle in front of their driveway, they wouldn't like it and would ask me to remove it.

Now, if I had my own driveway, it wouldn't actually bother me. But, I don't and the city won't grant us a permit to do so.

When the space had piles of snow on it, they didn't park there. But, now that the space has been shoveled out cleanly by me, they go ahead and occupy it? No. This is Boston, not the suburbs. You can't just walk up and confront someone about a situation like this unless you want it to be come physical.

If I don't remove the ice from in front of my property, and someone slipped on it. They can actually sue me for not removing the ice. Because the property is not just public, but it belongs to US. We're responsible for it. So, If I decided to shovel 50 feet of snow and ice from in front of my house, and put a trashcan there, then it belongs to US. Not them, Not the General Public.

1) Doesn't matter that they have a driveway. Using your own driveway is not mandatory. They're free to park anywhere it's legal and in this case, they did.

2) Parking in front of a driveway is completely, 100% different. That's illegal. You can not legally park in front of their driveway, but you can legally park at the curb in front of their house even if you have a driveway of your own.

3) You can't just walk up and confront them about it because you're so hopelessly, cluelessly wrong.

4) You are legally responsible for removing the ice from YOUR PROPERTY. That's your driveway, your sidewalk, your porch, etc. You are not legally obligated to clean the street since you don't own it. That's the whole part of this little story that you just don't seem to have the brainpower to understand. YOU DON'T OWN THE STREET. Shoveling it doesn't bestow you any extra rights. Sanding it doesn't bestow you any extra rights. Leaving a stupid trashcan doesn't bestow you any extra rights. It's public property.

You're still not comprehending this. Because I don't think you actually live here in Boston to make a statement on what is legal and what is not legal.

Here is a report from a couple winters ago about how the Mayor tried to address the issue with a new policy.

People who live in the city and own property know what I'm talking about.

 

[homercles337]

Originally posted by: AaronB
Op, if you know for a fact that he would ask you to remove your vehicle if you park in front of his house then why should it be a problem to ask him to remove his? Or do you not really know if your statement is true?

I dont think you understand. This is a NE mentality. I park. It snows. I shovel my car out. That space is now MINE! If anyone parks there they will feel the full fury of my wrath! :|

When in fact, its just a public spot on the street. This happens in Philly, NY, and Boston every winter.

 

[Mellman]

go slip on their sidewalk, and sue them....

 

[RedArmy]

Originally posted by: homercles337

Originally posted by: AaronB
Op, if you know for a fact that he would ask you to remove your vehicle if you park in front of his house then why should it be a problem to ask him to remove his? Or do you not really know if your statement is true?

I dont think you understand. This is a NE mentality. I park. It snows. I shovel my car out. That space is now MINE! If anyone parks there they will feel the full fury of my wrath! :|

When in fact, its just a public spot on the street. This happens in Philly, NY, and Boston every winter.

I live in NY and I have never heard of this before. Maybe it's because I actually live upstate where we get snow and realize shoveling comes with the territory unlike people further down state.

 

[silverpig]

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt

Originally posted by: Alone

Originally posted by: KK
sugar in the gas

Because the parking space is well worth the damages, right?

You're an idiot too. Sugar in the gas tank does nothing. If you're going to be childish enough to attempt to vandalize somebody that did nothing wrong just because you're a pathetic little child, at least educate your clueless ass enough to find a method that works.

Oh yes it does. If you're so sure, try it to your own car and post a video as proof. My mom had it done to her car several years ago. It drove for about 5 minutes, then died and wouldn't start. It had to get towed in for $1000 worth of work. I had my car stolen a few years ago, and when found, it wouldn't start. There was sugar in the gas tank, and as a result the car was written off.

 

[Matthias99]

Originally posted by: Remedy
You're still not comprehending this. Because I don't think you actually live here in Boston to make a statement on what is legal and what is not legal.

Here is a report from a couple winters ago about how the Mayor tried to address the issue with a new policy.

People who live in the city and own property know what I'm talking about.

That wasn't a 'new policy', it was them clarifying that you can't legally "reserve" a parking space by putting crap in it, and telling the DPW to actually do something about it by removing the items people put in the parking spaces. You don't have any particular legal right to the space in front of your house on a public street, even if you shoveled it out. You may not like it, but that's how it works.

Did your neighbor do something "not nice" by taking that spot instead of shoveling out his driveway? Sure. Should you STFU and deal instead of threatening to vandalize his car? Yes.

 

[jiggahertz]

Originally posted by: Remedy

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt

Originally posted by: Remedy

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
Unless the laws have changed and you somehow managed to find a wat to own the street, be a man and quit sniveling. You did not "dig a space", you dug your own car out, nothing more. That does not entitle you to that area for perpetuity. What are you, 6 years old? WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!! MOMMY!!!!! The mean people took my spot!!!

It wasn't your spot, it's a public street.

The street is public, but they have a driveway of their own. It's not my fault they don't want to dig out their own snow from their driveway to get their vehicles in and out of. You can't just have a driveway, not use it, park in front of our house that we pay property tax on and then sit there on it as if it is ok. Because, if I parked my vehicle in front of their driveway, they wouldn't like it and would ask me to remove it.

Now, if I had my own driveway, it wouldn't actually bother me. But, I don't and the city won't grant us a permit to do so.

When the space had piles of snow on it, they didn't park there. But, now that the space has been shoveled out cleanly by me, they go ahead and occupy it? No. This is Boston, not the suburbs. You can't just walk up and confront someone about a situation like this unless you want it to be come physical.

If I don't remove the ice from in front of my property, and someone slipped on it. They can actually sue me for not removing the ice. Because the property is not just public, but it belongs to US. We're responsible for it. So, If I decided to shovel 50 feet of snow and ice from in front of my house, and put a trashcan there, then it belongs to US. Not them, Not the General Public.

1) Doesn't matter that they have a driveway. Using your own driveway is not mandatory. They're free to park anywhere it's legal and in this case, they did.

2) Parking in front of a driveway is completely, 100% different. That's illegal. You can not legally park in front of their driveway, but you can legally park at the curb in front of their house even if you have a driveway of your own.

3) You can't just walk up and confront them about it because you're so hopelessly, cluelessly wrong.

4) You are legally responsible for removing the ice from YOUR PROPERTY. That's your driveway, your sidewalk, your porch, etc. You are not legally obligated to clean the street since you don't own it. That's the whole part of this little story that you just don't seem to have the brainpower to understand. YOU DON'T OWN THE STREET. Shoveling it doesn't bestow you any extra rights. Sanding it doesn't bestow you any extra rights. Leaving a stupid trashcan doesn't bestow you any extra rights. It's public property.

You're still not comprehending this. Because I don't think you actually live here in Boston to make a statement on what is legal and what is not legal.

Here is a report from a couple winters ago about how the Mayor tried to address the issue with a new policy.

People who live in the city and own property know what I'm talking about.

The article says that reserving spots is illegal and the trash collectors are supposed to pick up items used to save spots. Call Menino and tell him to come pick up your garbage can.