Difference in these DDR2 mem modules ?

[Kremerica]

hey guys,
I know there are many questions about what should I buy with this and that, and I DID read the hardware and building guide for new users.

I have a P4 3.4, a ASUS P5GD2 Premium motherboard, ATI X700 pro, 2 SATA raid 0 drives and wondering about memory.

I am looking on Newegg and trying to compare some DDR2
The P5GD2 can use DDR2 600, so I was looking at PC5300 or 5400

I know the early DDR2 memory still has slow latencies and 3-2-2-8 timings would be better than 4-4-4-12, but is there other differences right now ?
I don't need registered ECC,
I mostly play WoW (got a good deal on the P4), and internet, burn dvd's, just the usual shit.

the 2.2V EVP(Extended Voltage Protection) on some of the memory just allows me to overclock by jacking up the voltage more right ?

I am looking here
OCZ Model#: OCZ2667512PF for $168 and
here Corsair XMS2 Model#: CM2X512-5400C4 for $181.36
why would you pay more for the slower timing Corsair ?
it also has the 2.2 EVP

I havn't really overclocked much before because I had intel motherboards, but now that I have this ASUS I want to overclock some,

so I dunno what to do, b/c this memory is extremely expensive, I know I am paying a premium but would I notice the difference between the above memories and a value ram thats $80 with PC4200 speed here ?
I could get a gig of the value for the price of 512mb of good stuff.
it has the same timings, just less bandwidth and clock speed

also, should I go with 2x25mb to use the dual channel capability or just 1x512 for now ?
thanks

 

[Bozo Galora]

you will never see the dif between latency points in DDR2 in real life
thats just for bragging rights in benchmarks

all your resources should be on vidcard or overclocking same

edit:
256 sticks are pretty much ueless today, so 512 now, but dual channel if def better

 

[wlbowers]

Go to Asus and find the page on your mother board. At the bottom they have a QVL (Qualified vendors list) for the memory that they recommend for that board.

Does this mean what you are looking at won't work. No but I have found that keeping with their recommendations will same some grief if you plan to overclock.

Asus loves overclockers. Their boards are designed for it.

Lee

 

[Sc4freak]

Yup.

I'd say to go with some low-latency DDR2 (some nice OCZ 4200 3-2-2-10 would be good). PC5400 and up is for overclocking (even though the "unlocked" divider allows you to run at 600mhz)

 

[Kremerica]

First, thanks for the replies, it helps...

Originally posted by: Sc4freak
Yup.

I'd say to go with some low-latency DDR2 (some nice OCZ 4200 3-2-2-10 would be good). PC5400 and up is for overclocking (even though the "unlocked" divider allows you to run at 600mhz)

so do you guys think its worth it to go with more expensive 5300 or 5400 to run up to the 600mhz point or just go with lower latency 4200 like Sc4freak said ?

so from what I can understand since ddr2 is the way it is the latencies are all real high until it becomes mainstream.
so the higher speeds will just give me more overclocking ability, but which would be faster ? high latency and higher bus/clock speeds like with the 5300 or 5400 chips, or lower latency and slower bus/clock like the 4200 recommendation ?


also I didn't notice the BIG FLASHING BUTTON at the bottom of the ASUS page, I will look through that, thanks

 

[Kremerica]

Originally posted by: Kremerica

also I didn't notice the BIG FLASHING BUTTON at the bottom of the ASUS page, I will look through that, thanks

there is no OCZ on the list on there

 

[Gamingphreek]

Originally posted by: Bozo Galora
you will never see the dif between latency points in DDR2 in real life
thats just for bragging rights in benchmarks

all your resources should be on vidcard or overclocking same

edit:
256 sticks are pretty much ueless today, so 512 now, but dual channel if def better

Ummm no.

Link

That is a whole lot of nothing to me. 12fps gain alon gin Q3. Definitely look at timings. The only time they dont matter as much is with an A64 system.

-Kevin

 

[Kremerica]

I think I am going to go with this OCZ memory
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I don't see anything cheap on the list of memory from the ASUS website

I have always bought value ram before, and I just don't see how I can justify the extra $70 dollars from the the value ram to the ocz listed above.

I mean I see the diff in specs, 4200 and 5300 at the same timings and higher bandwidth, and voltage protection but will I see a real world diff when I am playing WoW or burning DVDs.

 

[wlbowers]

Man don't let cheap dictate your course of action. I have found that the better name brands take a little extra care in the grading of their memory.

There is a lot memory out there. A lifetime warranty doesn't mean a thing if you can't get results if you need it.

I am running a AMD64 3000+. It is overclocked. I have 1 gig of ram and I bit the bullet and bought Kingston. I have run every diagnostic and stress test that I can find and it has never burped once. I don't get bluescreens.

Low cost memory doesn't save you a dime if you have to spend hours tracking problems to it, and then can't get tech support or warranty on them.

I can run multiple copies of dvd decrypter and be burning one with nero.

Lee

 

[Gamingphreek]

Originally posted by: wlbowers
Man don't let cheap dictate your course of action. I have found that the better name brands take a little extra care in the grading of their memory.

There is a lot memory out there. A lifetime warranty doesn't mean a thing if you can't get results if you need it.

I am running a AMD64 3000+. It is overclocked. I have 1 gig of ram and I bit the bullet and bought Kingston. I have run every diagnostic and stress test that I can find and it has never burped once. I don't get bluescreens.

Low cost memory doesn't save you a dime if you have to spend hours tracking problems to it, and then can't get tech support or warranty on them.

I can run multiple copies of dvd decrypter and be burning one with nero.

Lee

Lol... well buying Kingston RAM sort of contradicts your entire post because they are no where near the quality of OCZ, Corsair, and Crucial. Yes i have owned Kingston, and Crucial, and Corsair, just not OCZ.

-Kevin