Difference in performance of Ti4200 128 mb and 64mb?

[Sachmho]

Hello all... I am curious as to what the performance difference is between a Ti4200 equipped with 128 mb of memory is versus one packin only 64 mb... on Nvidia boards, the 64 mb sticks are 3.5 ns, which is faster ram. but that aside, is there going to be much if at all benefit to go with 128 mb vs. 64, just in sheer amount of memory sense?

 

[MasterHoss]

No, 128MB of RAM on video cards has yet to be shown as beneficial; however, give it another year or 2 and you'll start seeing some returns on your purchase. You could always OC the 128MB version to the 64MB version's specs.

 

[Derango]

If you get a gainward Ti4200 128MB, the memory comes overclocked to the 64MB specs (actualy, its just a tad bit higher). It's Guarantied to run at this speed, since they use higher quality memory.

 

[Deeko]

If everything is clocked the same, you won't see a difference. However, the 64MB version is probably clocked lower...but then again, it can probably be easily overclocked to the speed of the 128MB version, so just stick with the 64. Not worth the extra money.

 

[Sachmho]

well, the 64 mb card has 3.5 ns memory chips, which are faster than the 4 ns chips that come on the 128... so... i'm trying to figure out how all this factors into the 64 vs. 128 mb for the overall performance... from what i remember, clockspeed-wise, the 128 mb version is the same as the 64 mb version... so in comparing the two, clock speed isnt a factor... essentially, this all comes down to: 64 mb with 3.5 ns ram VS. 128 mb with 4 ns ram: WHICH WOULD PERFORM BETTER?

 

[herbage11]

Good question. I went with the Gainward Ti4200 64mb from Newegg since they were out of the 128mb at the time so it made my choice easy. So far I really like the card Medal of Honor and Wolfenstien perform great on it. Have not had much luck OC yet but need to find somewhere to get powerstrip cause the Expertool does not work well for it. I am happy w/ the 64mb version so far. Anyone help me w/ a link to the Powerstip utilty so I can OC my card? Download.coms wont work and the other one I tried locked my system up while installing it .
thanks,
herb

 

[ST4RCUTTER]

I think what MasterHoss was trying to point out isn't the speed of the RAM, but the size. Today's games run very well with 64MB of RAM because the size of the textures are not creating a bottleneck in memory. With newer games (like Doom 3), you're going to need more memory to handle such large and complex textures. Now I'm no expert on current video card design, but greater memory combined with higher bandwidth seems a reasonable investment given the up and coming games.

 

[Sachmho]

ok, starcutter, but increased memory space and speed isn't ONE entity in itself... its one or the other... (remember: I'm only looking at Ti4200 due to prices) 64 mb with 3.5 ns (faster mem) or 128 mb with 4 ns (slower mem) so there is not ONE ideal choice... i'm trying to unearth which has the best performance...

 

[Lizardman]

Sachmho the faster ram will go faster thus will perform better.

By faster I mean overclock to a higher frequency. If both cards are clocked teh same than the performance will be the same in most games.

 

[aka1nas]

The 64MB card with faster RAM will perform a little better with todays game, while the 128MB card may end up being the better card 6 months to a year down the road, when games start to use more complex textures. These games will exceed the 64MB cards onboard memory and forcing it to fetch texture data from the system RAM of your PC. This gives you a performance drop akin to shifting to virtual memory from main memory, though not quite as dramatic. It may not totally kill your framerates, but it may cause slight stutters when the card has to fetch data across the AGP bus. This is sometimes called "AGP Thrashing" by ATers.

 

[Derango]

Originally posted by: Sachmho
ok, starcutter, but increased memory space and speed isn't ONE entity in itself... its one or the other... (remember: I'm only looking at Ti4200 due to prices) 64 mb with 3.5 ns (faster mem) or 128 mb with 4 ns (slower mem) so there is not ONE ideal choice... i'm trying to unearth which has the best performance...

The gainward 128MB Ti4200 card uses the 3.5ns ram..in case you missed my above post.

 

[Kulgan]

Didn't a number of sites b'mark the 64mb vs 128mb version and in a few b'marks (I think it was RTCW or Jedi II) the 128mb scored much better than the 64mb. Probably secondary to the larger textures in these games.

 

[Sachmho]

The gainward 128MB Ti4200 card uses the 3.5ns ram..in case you missed my above post.

Are you sure? B/c on newegg site, it lists the gainward 128 as having 4ns memory... can you send me links to info to confirm? if so, that'd be really sweet...

 

[MasterHoss]

If you can afford it, just get the 128MB version for the Gainward Ti4200 and OC the memory to effective 500MHz to equal that of the 64MB version.

 

[CubicZirconia]

If you can afford it, just get the 128MB version for the Gainward Ti4200 and OC the memory to effective 500MHz to equal that of the 64MB version.

You might as well get a 4400 at that point.

 

[Sachmho]

If you can afford it, just get the 128MB version for the Gainward Ti4200 and OC the memory to effective 500MHz to equal that of the 64MB version.

its not the core speed i'm worried about, as that can be OC'ed, but the actual MEMORY SPEED (As in ns, or nano-seconds) if the gainward card truly has 3.5 ns on the 128 board, thats the best bet. can someone please send link to info to confirm? so far it just seems to be a rumor...

 

[Sachmho]

can anyone please actually confirm that the Gainward uses 3.5 ns? i need proof please