Difference between plasma and LCD TVs?

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Originally posted by: DingDingDao
Originally posted by: Torghn
LCDs:
Better resloutions, higher brightness, longer life

Plasma:
Better color saturation, higher contrast, big screens are cheaper.

Honestly, I don't know why every other comment in this thread concerns the lifespan of plasmas. Right now plasmas have a half-brightness time of somewhere in the neighborhood of 80,000 hours. That means that at 80,000 hours, the image will be half as bright.

I'm not going to go into it in real heavy detail, but if you have a plasma (which I do) and you get it ISF calibrated (which I did), the proper display level has brightness set to somewhere around 1/3 the maximum setting. As the brightness decreases, you incrementally increase your brightness, maintaining proper image brightness and quality, so that by the time you get to 80,000 hours, the image is still as perfect as the day you bought it.

But forget that, did anyone stop to think about how long 80,000 hours is? If you watch the TV every day for 8 hours a day, that's 10,000 days. That's over 27 years. So to address the lifespan issue:

If you watch TV every day for 8 hours a day for 27 years, your plasma will still look just as good as the day you bought it.

Wow...


That sounds like the TV should last you closer to 40 years before it is at max brightness and gets too dark... thats a long time.
 

skimple

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LCDs show up better in bright rooms. Plasma resolution is better.

CRT TV still has the best picture. There are plans this year for some CRT manufacturers to start shipping TVs that are half the depth (or less) than current CRTs. Haven't seen them yet, but the CRT companies are getting their butts kicked in the big screen market, and are working on finding a way to compete.
 

Torghn

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Originally posted by: skimple
LCDs show up better in bright rooms. Plasma resolution is better.

CRT TV still has the best picture. There are plans this year for some CRT manufacturers to start shipping TVs that are half the depth (or less) than current CRTs. Haven't seen them yet, but the CRT companies are getting their butts kicked in the big screen market, and are working on finding a way to compete.


720p>1080i I don't see how CRT TVs can have better picture when they can't display 720p.
 

rh71

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I'm thinking... if you have a room big enough for a 50"+ big screen, you have enough room to fit a CRT anyway... what's the big deal with these plasmas or LCDs ? Must you guys hang them up on walls ? I know it can look better but the price difference...
 

fs5

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So much misinformation.

I would definitely buy a plasma for anything over 42 inces. Why? Go to store and compare the picture of an LCD versus a Plasma. If you compare ones of the same price range, Plasma beats it HANDS DOWN. Picture quality, viewing angle, contrast etc. Even if you compare a plasma 1/2 the price of an LCD, the plasma beats it in picture quality.

Burn in is not an issue. If you wish to play video games on it, the move expensive ones have anti-burn in measures. (One of which involves moving the image minutely so that burn in won't happen, and it's not visible to the human eye).

Life span is not a concern (as DingDingDao pointed out).

Power consumption, Plamsa > LCD. Not a concern IMO.
 

rh71

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Found this blurb:
There is what I would call the ideal display device in the works and it will be on sale very soon. It's called Cold Cathode Emmision or it's sometimes known as SED. It's based on a phosphor screen just like an analog CRT but instead of having swept electron beams it has an electron emiter behind each phosphor dot. So you get the best of analog CRT technology ( ie. the blending of color pixels ) with digital pixel access ( ie. no hot, power hungry electron tube ). What a deal !
Thoughts ?
 

Linux23

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Originally posted by: rh71
Found this blurb:
There is what I would call the ideal display device in the works and it will be on sale very soon. It's called Cold Cathode Emmision or it's sometimes known as SED. It's based on a phosphor screen just like an analog CRT but instead of having swept electron beams it has an electron emiter behind each phosphor dot. So you get the best of analog CRT technology ( ie. the blending of color pixels ) with digital pixel access ( ie. no hot, power hungry electron tube ). What a deal !
Thoughts ?

yep, i'm waiting on this myself, so I bought a 50" DLP in the meantime.
 

MAME

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anyone who thinks plasmas have some 3 year life expectancy due to burn in is retarded
 

Qwest

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Originally posted by: Fmr12B
Originally posted by: frankie38
HD Tube tvs are the best, however only up to 36 inch.


Sony made a 40" tube TV? Any issues with this compared to their 36" Wega line?

my dad has the 40" tube, it's 4:3 though, NOT 16:9.

I just got the sony 30" xs955 16:9 HD tube ($950), excellent picture quality.
besides footprint and weight, you still can't beat a tube for outright quality of the pic.

*(waits for people to crap on sony)* :roll:
 

frankie38

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Originally posted by: Fmr12B
[Sony made a 40" tube TV? Any issues with this compared to their 36" Wega line?

Yes, SONY did have 40" tube. However, 4:3 config and not HD.

SONY 36 inch XBR is very nice.

 

mchammer187

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Originally posted by: fs5
So much misinformation.

I would definitely buy a plasma for anything over 42 inces. Why? Go to store and compare the picture of an LCD versus a Plasma. If you compare ones of the same price range, Plasma beats it HANDS DOWN. Picture quality, viewing angle, contrast etc. Even if you compare a plasma 1/2 the price of an LCD, the plasma beats it in picture quality.

Burn in is not an issue. If you wish to play video games on it, the move expensive ones have anti-burn in measures. (One of which involves moving the image minutely so that burn in won't happen, and it's not visible to the human eye).

Life span is not a concern (as DingDingDao pointed out).

Power consumption, Plamsa > LCD. Not a concern IMO.


you can't compare plasma to LCD projection


there are no direct view LCD's larger than 42 inches that i'm aware of


if you want a direct view screen over 45 inches large than plasma is simply better because there are no 50"+ commercial direct view LCD's


if you want to compare 30"-45" LCD's to plasmas LCD's win hands down imo (just look at the sharp aquos line)


if you want projection I say go DLP
 

Lumathix

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Originally posted by: DingDingDao
Originally posted by: Torghn
LCDs:
Better resloutions, higher brightness, longer life

Plasma:
Better color saturation, higher contrast, big screens are cheaper.

Honestly, I don't know why every other comment in this thread concerns the lifespan of plasmas. Right now plasmas have a half-brightness time of somewhere in the neighborhood of 80,000 hours. That means that at 80,000 hours, the image will be half as bright.

I'm not going to go into it in real heavy detail, but if you have a plasma (which I do) and you get it ISF calibrated (which I did), the proper display level has brightness set to somewhere around 1/3 the maximum setting. As the brightness decreases, you incrementally increase your brightness, maintaining proper image brightness and quality, so that by the time you get to 80,000 hours, the image is still as perfect as the day you bought it.

But forget that, did anyone stop to think about how long 80,000 hours is? If you watch the TV every day for 8 hours a day, that's 10,000 days. That's over 27 years. So to address the lifespan issue:

If you watch TV every day for 8 hours a day for 27 years, your plasma will still look just as good as the day you bought it.

:thumbsup:
 

nakedfrog

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I'd like to see them throw projectors into the mix.

Originally posted by: MAME
anyone who thinks plasmas have some 3 year life expectancy due to burn in is retarded

According to the posted link, it's 3 years of having it on 24/7. So while it may technically be true, it's quite misleading (and not related to burn in).
 

jtvang125

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LCDs, plasmas, LCoSs, DLPs...all fine and dandy.

I'm going to wait til 1080p is mainstream on all HDTVs and with blu-ray/hd-dvd out.