Dieting Question - How do pickles have 0 calories?

[DWW]

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: DWW

Originally posted by: DurocShark

Originally posted by: episodic
Atkin's Kosher Dills in the Large Gallon jars. Got it from Wal-Mart for 4.00$- says on the side 0 calories.

That's unpossible. Pickles=fruit. Fruit=carbs.

I think the company is full of pickles!

Actually pickles aren't fruit

Edit: Well to be PC I realized I shouldn't say the above statement. Some pickles stray But they are generally vegetables

Cucumbers are a fruit; they contain seeds.

Pickles are pickled cucumbers.

Therefor, pickles are pickled fruit.

So anything containing seeds would be a fruit? Pumpkin is fruit?

Edit: nm looks like pumpkin is a fruit. Wow never knew that pumpkin or cucumber are fruits

 

[rezinn]

Sounds like they just truncated the 1/5th of a pickle being 0.7 calories to it being 0. That's probably not a "correct" thing to do. And calories are only measured if they are available for metabolic use. We don't burn H2O for energy, we burn carbohydrates, fat, alcohol, proteins, etc.

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: DWW

So anything containing seeds would be a fruit? Pumpkin is fruit?

Yes, by definition.

A vegetable doesen't contain seeds, like a carrot or beet.

Although we often mix them all up, since most people consider fruit to be sweet, and vegetables not..

 

[Jzero]

Originally posted by: DWW
So anything containing seeds would be a fruit? Pumpkin is fruit?

Edit: nm looks like pumpkin is a fruit. Wow never knew that pumpkin or cucumber are fruits

Different people classify things different ways.
A botanist will tell you it's a fruit since it bears seeds.
A horticulturist might tell you it's a vegetable since it is a vegetable plant based on its characteristics.
A chef will classify it depending on it's use. In a soup, a cucumber (or tomato for that matter) it would be considered a vegetable. In a salad or dessert, a fruit.

 

[myusername]

The vlasic pickle that I just ate had approximately 10 calories, according to the nutrition label (5 calories per approximately half pickle). I don't mind; they taste better than the other brands.

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: notfred
The way they measure calories confuses me. It seems to be an inexact science, at the very least.

Shouldn't hot water contain calories?

A calorie is the amount of energy required to heat 1ml of water 1 degree C, right? From what starting temperature?

Shouldn't hot water contain some calories then?

How do they measure the energy in foods, burn them and see how hot water nearby gets? How much of that energy comes from the air and not the food?

What about food that goes through you? Do calorie counts take into account the fact that a good portion of your food comes out the other end without being absorbed by your body?

That's actually a pretty good question.

Obviously, they only measure calories that you can metabolize. But I'm not exactly sure what methods they use to get the calorie figure on foods..

 

[FoBoT]

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: DWW

So anything containing seeds would be a fruit? Pumpkin is fruit?

Yes, by definition.

A vegetable doesen't contain seeds, like a carrot or beet.

Although we often mix them all up, since most people consider fruit to be sweet, and vegetables not..

so what is corn? the little kernels are seeds, so an ear of corn is a fruit? :Q

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: FoBoT

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: DWW

So anything containing seeds would be a fruit? Pumpkin is fruit?

Yes, by definition.

A vegetable doesen't contain seeds, like a carrot or beet.

Although we often mix them all up, since most people consider fruit to be sweet, and vegetables not..

so what is corn? the little kernels are seeds, so an ear of corn is a fruit? :Q

I was actually pondering the same thing when I posted that, because at first I said carrot or corn.

But yes, technically a corn is a fruit. An ear of corn contains hundreds(or whatever) of little fruits.

 

[MomAndSkoorbaby]

Hmmm...pickles.....

 

[Murphy Durphy]

I don't know about you guys, but I'm starting to get the word 'pickel' stuck in my head. It's such a odd and unique word to pronounce. ... pickel. Pickel. Pickel. PICKEL. Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh...

pickel.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: Eli
I was actually pondering the same thing when I posted that, because at first I said carrot or corn.

But yes, technically a corn is a fruit. An ear of corn contains hundreds(or whatever) of little fruits.

Nope. Corn is a grain. The edible seeds of a grass. Same with wheat, rice, barley, etc.

Fruits are when you eat the seed-bearing ovaries of a flowering plant. Tomatoes, apples, cucumbers, pumpkins, etc.

Vegetables are when you eat the root, stalk, or leaf of a plant. Potatoes, lettuce, cabbage, carrots, etc.

edit: and there is no fscking way that pickles have 0 calories.

 

[Pex]

celery has negative calories because of the energy it takes to eat them.

 

[Yo Ma Ma]

Oops, late to the party. Here, have some grain.

 

[FoBoT]

i better stick to fish, this is sooooo confusing!

eat Salmon, the other Pink meat

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: Eli
I was actually pondering the same thing when I posted that, because at first I said carrot or corn.

But yes, technically a corn is a fruit. An ear of corn contains hundreds(or whatever) of little fruits.

Nope. Corn is a grain. The edible seeds of a grass. Same with wheat, rice, barley, etc.

Fruits are when you eat the seed-bearing ovaries of a flowering plant. Tomatoes, apples, cucumbers, pumpkins, etc.

Vegetables are when you eat the root, stalk, or leaf of a plant. Potatoes, lettuce, cabbage, carrots, etc.

edit: and there is no fscking way that pickles have 0 calories.

Well.. if you want to get technical, wheat, rice and barley seeds are fruits too.

A corn(and wheat, rice..) is a type of fruit called a caryopsis. The seed is the fruit of the corn(wheat, rice..) plant.

You are correct that they're called grains, though. They're a type of fruit called a grain. That's what a grain is. The fruit of a cereal-grass.

 

[badmouse]

"sweet" pickles have more calories than "sour" pickles.

There's not much to a cuke except water and a little bit of structure (cellulose?).

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: DurocShark

Originally posted by: episodic
Atkin's Kosher Dills in the Large Gallon jars. Got it from Wal-Mart for 4.00$- says on the side 0 calories.

That's unpossible. Pickles=fruit. Fruit=carbs.

I think the company is full of pickles!

Uh...aren't pickles from cucumbers?


Cucumbers == vegetables

 

[TitanDiddly]

Below a certain count of calories, the FDA lets the manufacturer say zero. Sweet and low for example has a big sticker saying 'ZERO CALORIES!" but it actually has 4. It should be marked on the packaging.

 

[gopunk]

Originally posted by: notfred
The way they measure calories confuses me. It seems to be an inexact science, at the very least.

Shouldn't hot water contain calories?

A calorie is the amount of energy required to heat 1ml of water 1 degree C, right? From what starting temperature?

Shouldn't hot water contain some calories then?

How do they measure the energy in foods, burn them and see how hot water nearby gets? How much of that energy comes from the air and not the food?

What about food that goes through you? Do calorie counts take into account the fact that a good portion of your food comes out the other end without being absorbed by your body?

not sure if anybody has responded, but you're confusing several issues. "calorie" as it pertains to food has to do with how much energy it gives you, i.e., how much energy your body can burn as a result of digesting that food. the whole heating up water thing is for purposes of measurement only.

 

[jagec]

Originally posted by: notfred
The way they measure calories confuses me. It seems to be an inexact science, at the very least.

Shouldn't hot water contain calories?

A calorie is the amount of energy required to heat 1ml of water 1 degree C, right? From what starting temperature?

Shouldn't hot water contain some calories then?

How do they measure the energy in foods, burn them and see how hot water nearby gets? How much of that energy comes from the air and not the food?

What about food that goes through you? Do calorie counts take into account the fact that a good portion of your food comes out the other end without being absorbed by your body?

why is it inexact? You can't BURN water. The calorie (kilocalorie, actually) in food is measured by burning the food in question and, as you say, seeing how much heat is released. It's basically the sum of the enthalpies of combustion * the quantity of each combustible chemical in the food. That's why sugary stuff is so high in Calories. The starting temperature doesn't matter (except to the extend that it changes the specific heat).

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: DurocShark

Originally posted by: episodic
Atkin's Kosher Dills in the Large Gallon jars. Got it from Wal-Mart for 4.00$- says on the side 0 calories.

That's unpossible. Pickles=fruit. Fruit=carbs.

I think the company is full of pickles!

Uh...aren't pickles from cucumbers?


Cucumbers == vegetables

Didn't read the thread, didja?

Once again, cucumbers are fruit.

 

[StageLeft]

They do, just very little. You can eat tons of them, but the problem is sodium - gotta watch out for it. Pickles are nice!

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: Skoorb
They do, just very little. You can eat tons of them, but the problem is sodium - gotta watch out for it. Pickles are nice!

That's sig material......

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: notfred
The way they measure calories confuses me. It seems to be an inexact science, at the very least.

Shouldn't hot water contain calories?

A calorie is the amount of energy required to heat 1ml of water 1 degree C, right? From what starting temperature?

Shouldn't hot water contain some calories then?

How do they measure the energy in foods, burn them and see how hot water nearby gets? How much of that energy comes from the air and not the food?

What about food that goes through you? Do calorie counts take into account the fact that a good portion of your food comes out the other end without being absorbed by your body?

That's actually a pretty good question.

Obviously, they only measure calories that you can metabolize. But I'm not exactly sure what methods they use to get the calorie figure on foods..

IIRC they burn the food in a special container and measure the energy.

No - water has no calories...it doesn't burn.

yep, burn them...knew there was a device called a calorimeter.

http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a3_097a.html

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: DurocShark

Originally posted by: episodic
Atkin's Kosher Dills in the Large Gallon jars. Got it from Wal-Mart for 4.00$- says on the side 0 calories.

That's unpossible. Pickles=fruit. Fruit=carbs.

I think the company is full of pickles!

Uh...aren't pickles from cucumbers?


Cucumbers == vegetables

Didn't read the thread, didja?

Once again, cucumbers are fruit.

Everyone calls them vegetables except maybe the most anal of horticulturists.