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alkemyst

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Assuming one has a proper diet there is no need to go to fad diets is what I was referring too. Also in anything health and nutrition YMMV. Most can't pull off the weight losses I have (86lbs in 3 months, easily 20 lbs in a month if I want too, etc)...

Also many people do not train properly esp with weights. They work out too long with too little and don't set and move milestones.

A lot of people will have a hard time running 5 miles in 1 hour (what it takes to burn about 600 calories for the average 150-200lb man. It's more than just running for one hour, it's about target heartrate and cadance. A much better method to lose fat is HIIT. It's intense though and not for everyone. It doesn't work your heart and lungs like true cardio would over long distance, but it's very effective. Don't confused it with HIT training with weights. It's High Intensity Interval Training.

A soda (non-diet) is about 120 cals. It takes 3600 calories to lose a pound (this is in fat calories, and I know your body can't just burn fat only...I am not looking to get into biology debates esp that many do not understand the very science they end up arguing about).

You aren't going to lose weight until you are burning more than your intake, even if you cut back food.

If you are eating your proper amount of calories (my framework is 1 g protein for each pound I wiegh, 10-20% of the total for fat calories and then fill in the rest with carbs), there is no need for any kind of fancy diet. Most diets are simply teaching one portion control anyway.
 

alkemyst

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it's not the carbs that are bad. It's highly glycemic carbs and even those are not bad all the time (after a workout they are perfect).

Highly glycemic carbs are those that come from processed/enriched foods like pasta, boxed cereal, pizza crust, etc.

A french bread pizza though is actually a pretty good post-work out meal.

The thing is it has to fit in with the rest of your intake. Many people think since food X is good pre-workout ad Food Y is great after, then Food z is a great snack that they can just eat them all along with the other meals. What usually happens is the person begins overeating alot.

Typically good diets have macronutrient break downs of 30/40/30 roughly (protein/carbs/fats). I am meso-endomorphic so I keep my fats a bit lower (10-20%)

Also when figuring your calories don't base it on your current wieght but rather your healthy target weight. People figure since they wiegh 250 with 30% bodyfat, they should look up the calories for 250lbs...that will do nothing but keep you fat longer. At 30% bodyfat and 250lbs one should be eating like they weigh around 175-185lbs.

There is a lot of things to consider but once you know them it's all trival.
 

Aikouka

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Originally posted by: alkemyst
it's not the carbs that are bad. It's highly glycemic carbs and even those are not bad all the time (after a workout they are perfect).

Highly glycemic carbs are those that come from processed/enriched foods like pasta, boxed cereal, pizza crust, etc.

A french bread pizza though is actually a pretty good post-work out meal.

So how do you tell the difference? Is it just pretty much the difference between whole grains and not? Kind of like the difference between wheat bread and white bead.
 

alkemyst

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Originally posted by: Aikouka
Originally posted by: alkemyst
it's not the carbs that are bad. It's highly glycemic carbs and even those are not bad all the time (after a workout they are perfect).

Highly glycemic carbs are those that come from processed/enriched foods like pasta, boxed cereal, pizza crust, etc.

A french bread pizza though is actually a pretty good post-work out meal.

So how do you tell the difference? Is it just pretty much the difference between whole grains and not? Kind of like the difference between wheat bread and white bead.

You read the label. Enriched Flour is highly glycemic.
 

Megatomic

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You guys should google glycemic load and glycemic impact. There's alot of info about the perils of eating refined grain products out there.
 

rocadelpunk

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Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: rocadelpunk
maybe you should take some suppliments?

Protein and glutamine...

I'm impressed that you can do all that stuff day in/day out. I just started doing an aerobic kickboxing class...it's a 50 min intense workout and it's just as hard as anything I ever did at saddlebrook tennis academy in florida...which was all day stuff. It takes me about 4 days to recover from each class...and I'm in average shape.


as for diet recommendations...

drink a lot of water (helps reduce snacking). Get your carbs in earlier in morning...whatever they may be (pasta, fruit, whole grains)

glutamine info

suppliments?

he isn't even weight training yet.

start lifting 3-4 times a week before or after your basketball/kickboxing. you will see a difference.

I lol'd about tennis camp. Try spring and summer football. 7 to 11am break break then 1pm to 5pm. This was in West Palm Beach Florida. Pretty asses out hot. On non-pad days it was still bad. Wrestling wasn't much better being inside with no a/c.

I like gluatamine, only I use it for lifting...


I shouldn't say it's a camp...it's on par with bolletari...jennifer cappriati was on the court next to us hitting with the then #1 u18 male. It's 10 degrees hotter on the court : P. but yah, I'd concede pads would blow.
 

reitz

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Karma,

You need to do what anyone who wishes to lose weight needs to do: count calories.

The math is pretty simple: Calories consumed - calories burned = weight gain or loss.

Three eggs + toast for breakfast might be overkill...try cutting it to two eggs or one. Pasta's not inherently bad, but make sure your portions are reasonable.

Eating Subway worked for Jared, but what they don't mention in the commercials is that a six-inch veggie sub with no drink or chips is reasonable, but a footlong BMT has almost a thousand calories. An active, healthy man needs roughly 2,400 calories/day...that sub with drink and chips is more than half of that.

Your activity level is good (actually, siginificantly more than most of the fat asses today would even dream of)...are you losing weight? If you're shedding pounds, then I'd say just relax and don't worry about it. How many years did it take you to gain the weight you're trying to lose? You're not going to drop it overnight, and a slow, steady burn is better for your health than suddenly losing fifty pounds.

If you're not losing weight, then you need to take a look at your diet. Your activity level is good, so aim for 2,400 a day, and tweak from there as needed (everyone is different...some need more, some need less).