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Didn't think my opinion of Eric Clapton could get any lower

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I guess another thing after reading through this thread came to mind.

I learned long ago to separate musicians / actors from their private lives (what they do / say outside of making music / movies).

Case in point for me: Roger Waters.

He was by far the largest driving force behind what is widely considered Pink Floyd's best albums. I'm in awe of the music he created, and the man is a genius.

However, I could ever meet and talk to any of the remaining members of Pink Floyd, he would be my last choice. Why? Because he's largely considered a major league asshole by just about anyone he deals with, and I know I would probably say one word he didn't like, and he'd tell me to go fuck myself, and walk out within 2 minutes into the discussion. 😳
 
UsandThem said:
I guess another thing after reading through this thread came to mind.

I learned long ago to separate musicians / actors from their private lives (what they do / say outside of making music / movies).

Case in point for me: Roger Waters.

He was by far the largest driving force behind what is widely considered Pink Floyd's best albums. I'm in awe of the music he created, and the man is a genius.

However, I could ever meet and talk to any of the remaining members of Pink Floyd, he would be my last choice. Why? Because he's largely considered a major league asshole by just about anyone he deals with, and I know I would probably say one word he didn't like, and he'd tell me to go fuck myself, and walk out within 2 minutes into the discussion. 😳
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I take the same attitude with pro-athletes.... Charles Barkley had a point about role-models!

Clapton is a major-league asshole BUT he plays a mean blues/rock guitar. Of musicians I've seen play live he's second only to Stevie Ray Vaughn. (RIP)
 
.. uff

again, many years ago, when we were telling you "this new interpretation of copyright law IS WRONG AND WILL BITE YOU IN THE ASS" you were all like "noo, content creators, amazing artists, honest work".

And now people get sued for selling a *single* bootleg that has no IP value as it doesnt reasonable compete with any IP sold by the artist, who was too lazy in the first place to sell it themselves.
 
Captante said:
Meant to say rock/blues-guitarists.... and if you never saw Stevie (or Clapton) play live your opinion means very little to me sorry.
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Yeah, I don't get it either.

Clapton can be criticized for many things, but you just don't see anyone say the man can't play the guitar. 😵
 
Captante said:
Meant to say rock/blues-guitarists.... and if you never saw Stevie (or Clapton) play live your opinion means very little to me sorry.
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you mean live live, or live? Because video recordings exist, and i'm pretty sure live shows of both are within easy reach of anyone.

Clapton's main claim to fame was that he could keep it together in the 60s, and, sure he can put a few notes together. Be smart, be first, or cheat, amirite? He's firmly in the "be first" camp, and maybe, in 1960 he was good. Not Hendrix good, but good.
I mean, he's no Segovia.
He's no Zappa either.
Let's just say that he's not great compared to other 1960s offerings, and then got heavily surclassed in the 70s. And never did anything decent after The White Room. I mean, lol, Wheels Of Fire is boring AF and the sound is terrible, compared to say, In The Court Of The Crimson King.
He is 2 years younger than Santana, though.

Yeah yeah he was decent, it's not fair to compare him to people who have studied, like Allan Holdsworth, or the younger generation, and he certainly was groundbreaking in getting albums recorded when others were struggling to even own a guitar, and if you willingly ignore the panorama of rock that existed in the 60s, outside of the Beatles, and Hendrix, and Zappa, Crimson, and the Grateful Dead, and Pink Floyd, Santana, The Eagles, Zeppelin, the yeah, Derek & The Dominoes was totally great rock blues provided we ignore the previous 30 years of actual blues.
*lists a whole bunch of decent blues artists*

.. i mean .. Stevie Ray was in another class.

Young and foolish (and having recently purchased the absurdly mediocre Journeyman, just because i loved the yellow-sweater/gray-suit combo he was wearing on the back photo) i was in a cab in NYC when they put the news out on the radio that Clapton had died. I grieved for the duration of my ride and by the time i got there, the annoucer said that Clapton had given up that seat to Stevie so Stevie was dead instead. And i thought fuck, it would have been better Clapton.

Because after having gotten drunk for 20 years, he managed to produce this vomit here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journeyman_(album)#Personnel
that took 30 decent musicians to put together, Mick Jones of Foreigner to write him the single track "Bad Love", where he has *two* credits (one of which stolen), and they still managed to do 16th on the US charts. On a november release :/
 
Captante said:
Meant to say rock/blues-guitarists.... and if you never saw Stevie (or Clapton) play live your opinion means very little to me sorry.
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I saw Clapton live twice and the shows themselves were mediocre. Fantastic guitarist, but not great shows. Not that he was in his prime when I saw him.
 
TheVrolok said:
I saw Clapton live twice and the shows themselves were mediocre. Fantastic guitarist, but not great shows. Not that he was in his prime when I saw him.
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I saw Clapton in the early 1980's in Springfield Mass and then again in 2006 w/Robert Cray @ MSG. I had the exact same impression you did the first concert. (to be fair he was not long off heroin and still drinking heavily)

2006 in MSG (5th row center!) in 06 was a great show overall though and Clapton himself was in much BETTER physical shape despite the added age. That time is what I base my impression of his talent on... he was tight.

Having said that, I saw Stevie Ray Vaughan a few times and he was on a whole different level of connected with the audience. Clapton might have played like Stevie did in 1987 with Cream back in 1969 but not either of the times I saw him that's for certain.
 
Captante said:
I saw Clapton in the early 1980's in Springfield Mass and then again in 2006 w/Robert Cray @ MSG. I had the exact same impression you did the first concert. (to be fair he was not long off heroin and still drinking heavily)

2006 in MSG (5th row center!) in 06 was a great show overall though and Clapton himself was in much BETTER physical shape despite the added age. That time is what I base my impression of his talent on... he was tight.

Having said that, I saw Stevie Ray Vaughan a few times and he was on a whole different level of connected with the audience. Clapton might have played like Stevie did in 1987 with Cream back in 1969 but not either of the times I saw him that's for certain.
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I saw Clapton and Winwood at MSG in .. 08ish? and with Daltrey a few years later. Largely what you suggested with SRV, Clapton played well, just little to no connection with the audience. Probably still better than when I saw Dylan like 15-20 years ago.
 
I may have been a bit rough on poor ol' E.C. and, you know, i wish him well. or at least i used to.

He made it (by picking up a guitar and playing) in a time where nobody knew what they were doing and i don't blame him for having made a successful business out of it.

He also had no need to "keep up" because he was a big name and the money kept coming in. Shame that later in life he turned out to be a stupid man.

.. he's got a lot of good songs too. Not GREAT songs, but good for the style that they are, that is, easy listening rock.
 
Anyone have a bootleg of this performance by Clapton?

Do we have any foreigners in the audience tonight? If so, please put up your hands. Wogs, I mean. I’m looking at you. Where are you? I’m sorry, but some fucking wog Arab grabbed my wife’s bum, you know? Surely got to be said, yeah, this is what all the fucking foreigners and wogs here are like, just disgusting, that’s just the truth, yeah. So, where are you? Well, wherever you are, I think you should all just leave. Not just leave the hall, leave our country. You fucking . . . I don’t want you here, in this room or in my country. Listen to me, man! I think we should vote for Enoch Powell. Enoch’s our man. I think Enoch’s right, I think we should send them all back. Stop Britain from becoming a black colony. Get the foreigners out. Get the wogs out. Get the coons out. Keep Britain white. I used to be into dope, now I’m into racism. It’s much heavier, man. Fucking wogs, man. Fucking Saudis taking over London. Bastard wogs. Britain is becoming overcrowded, and Enoch will stop it and send them all back. The black wogs and coons and Arabs and fucking Jamaicans and fucking . . . don’t belong here, we don’t want them here. This is England, this is a white country, we don’t want any black wogs and coons living here. We need to make clear to them they are not welcome. England is for white people, man. We are a white country. I don’t want fucking wogs living next to me with their standards. This is Great Britain, a white country, what is happening to us, for fuck’s sake? We need to vote for Enoch Powell, he’s a great man, speaking truth. Vote for Enoch, he’s our man, he’s on our side, he’ll look after us. I want all of you here to vote for Enoch, support him, he’s on our side. Enoch for Prime Minister! Throw the wogs out! Keep Britain white!
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Eric Clapton - August 5, 1976


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