erikistired
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Homerboy
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i wonder how many people have tattoos like that and now they are completely off.
My friend did have a Gemini one, but he had it removed years ago. His sign "changed" now.
erikistired
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alkemyst
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SlitheryDee
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Seems as though it would depend more on the state of the earth at the time of your birth. Any wobbles that happen today don't change the earth's orientation at the time you were born. So this should only affect the signs of people who are born during the time that the earth is off kilter.
lsv
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Mine did.
Even more interesting, did you know the Earth wobbles on it's axis?
http://www.nbc-2.com/Global/story.asp?S=13828331
You believe in signs and did not know the earth wobbled. Sigh.
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Bateluer
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i wonder how many people have tattoos like that and now they are completely off.
I'm still going to get the Aquarius tattoo, I'm thinking. I'll just modify it a little.
I sit right on the cusp of Capricorn and Aquarius.
erikistired
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silverpig
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I might as well post here.
The CNN article is wrong. Your signs did change, and it doesn't just affect people born post 2009.
So a bit of history about astrology:
It was ORIGINALLY based off of the sidereal zodiac (the same type that eastern astrology is based on and the one where the sun being in certain constellations when you were born determines things).
Ptolemy, who wrote one of the oldest surviving books on astrology, was trying to define dates to use to define when one sign began and one ended. He chose his reference point to be the vernal equinox (spring) as it marked the beginning of the new year and it lined up fairly closely to when the sun passed into Aries at the time. So he pegged Aries to the beginning of spring and then chose other dates for other signs accordingly.
He did this only as a proxy for the sidereal zodiac. He did not anticipate the need to adjust the dates due to precession. He thought the vernal equinox would always coincide with the sun passing into Aries. This is the flawed assumption on which western astrology and the tropical zodiac are based.
Due to precession, the dates that the sun passes through certain constellations in the zodiac has slowly changed. Nothing special happened in 2009. If the new chart says you are now a gemini, guess where the sun actually was when you were born? Yup, gemini.
The notion that the signs didn't change because it is based on the seasons and not on the sun's path through the ecliptic goes to further astrology's bullshittiness (if they can make shit up, I can invent new words). The seasons are a flawed proxy for sidereal astrology, and thus western astrology departs from the original foundation which is based in sidereal astrology.
The CNN article is wrong. Your signs did change, and it doesn't just affect people born post 2009.
So a bit of history about astrology:
It was ORIGINALLY based off of the sidereal zodiac (the same type that eastern astrology is based on and the one where the sun being in certain constellations when you were born determines things).
Ptolemy, who wrote one of the oldest surviving books on astrology, was trying to define dates to use to define when one sign began and one ended. He chose his reference point to be the vernal equinox (spring) as it marked the beginning of the new year and it lined up fairly closely to when the sun passed into Aries at the time. So he pegged Aries to the beginning of spring and then chose other dates for other signs accordingly.
He did this only as a proxy for the sidereal zodiac. He did not anticipate the need to adjust the dates due to precession. He thought the vernal equinox would always coincide with the sun passing into Aries. This is the flawed assumption on which western astrology and the tropical zodiac are based.
Due to precession, the dates that the sun passes through certain constellations in the zodiac has slowly changed. Nothing special happened in 2009. If the new chart says you are now a gemini, guess where the sun actually was when you were born? Yup, gemini.
The notion that the signs didn't change because it is based on the seasons and not on the sun's path through the ecliptic goes to further astrology's bullshittiness (if they can make shit up, I can invent new words). The seasons are a flawed proxy for sidereal astrology, and thus western astrology departs from the original foundation which is based in sidereal astrology.
This is complete nonsense... Whats with the irregular dates there? Some signs last for a month and a half, and Scorpio lasts for 6 days?
The funny thing is I am a textbook Scorpio, if you read about it on the internet, I have just about every personality trait listed there, yet, now Im a Libra? Lulz... No, I am still the same person thank you
The funny thing is I am a textbook Scorpio, if you read about it on the internet, I have just about every personality trait listed there, yet, now Im a Libra? Lulz... No, I am still the same person thank you
zinfamous
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well, as you have so long attributed your personality and traits so accurately to star alignment, and now that you know that your star alignment was false..why suddenly deny the truth of how the stars make you who you are?
Methinks you would be willing to adapt your new you into the you that you were supposed to be...
:hmm:
AstroManLuca
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Silverpig explained it. The original zodiac was based on the vernal equinox, which just happened to be roughly around the time the sun moved into Aries. And then they just gave exactly 1 month to each zodiac sign regardless of how long it takes for the sun to pass through them. In reality, the sun only grazes Scorpio and spends much more time in Ophiuchus. But they chose Scorpio because it's a brighter, more recognizable constellation.
Lulz, your personality traits aren't defined by astrology.
Nintendesert
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disappoint
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Mine too.
Even more interesting, did you know the Earth wobbles on it's axis?
Of course. I thought everyone knew that.
Did you know we've teleported an entire atom in the lab? We're far from "Beam me up Scotty" but a big step in that direction nonetheless.
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