did you guys know "free energy" is a viable thing?

UlricT

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check out the site... I cannot vouch for the validity of anything, but it sounds sound... if you know what i mean :)

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If this is true... think of how many machines we can run (at least as crunchers :D)... hey free energy also means no pollution etc. Tell me what you guys think aboot this!!!
 

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What do I think?
I think I want to see one good public demonstration of these gadgets, where scientists could examine the equipment to see it was not rigged, and then see others reproduce whatever claimed results are made.
 

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well... how come the scientific community does not even show enough interest to scientifically disprove these supposed machines. There have been a lot of inventions that are built first and then explained theoretically. Maybe this is one such case. Why would people like Nikolai Tesla, who had enormous respect in the scientific community, essentially go ahead and make themselves so-called "heretics" just because of one thing...??
 

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Depends on your definiton of "free". Do I believe cleaner, more renewable energy sources are available? Of course. Can you create energy from nothing? Of course not. The law of conservation of energy (or mass, same difference) says no dice.
 

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This material covers the complete explanation of how inventor Edwin Gray, Sr. produced what he called "Cold Electricity". In the early 1970's,
If this was not a hoax, patenting the method would have brought in litterally billions in licensing fees.

These scams have been around since the days of alchemy, gold-to-lead machines, money-from-blank-paper machines, rabbit-from-hat machines etc. etc.

Geothermal, wind, solar, and (hot) fusion power are real. All the books and videos they're selling are scams for suckers.
 

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Originally posted by: Heisenberg
Depends on your definiton of "free". Do I believe cleaner, more renewable energy sources are available? Of course. Can you create energy from nothing? Of course not. The law of conservation of energy (or mass, same difference) says no dice.


Are you sure?
 

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If there was really anything like this...or if this is of course somehow real. Corporations would never let it get through and everyone would be paid off to ignore the discovery because business's would fall.
 
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Originally posted by: Chadder007
If there was really anything like this...or if this is of course somehow real. Corporations would never let it get through and everyone would be paid off to ignore the discovery because business's would fall.



Yup, you think the oil companies or electric companies would let something like this continue. Hell no. They would kill for it, that way when they do run out of oil, they can be our saviour by bringing about this new clean, free energy, and charge up the wazoo to get it to you.

 

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Originally posted by: DaveSimmons
gold-to-lead machines

think you got that backward.



covered up just like the 70 mpg carburetor?
 

HappyPuppy

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We have a whole bunch of Indian casinos here in CA and every one of them practically guarantees in their advertising that you will be a winner and walk away with far more money than you arrived with. I'm going to the Pechanga Casino tonight and tomorrow I'm going to call up my boss and tell him where to stick it because I'm going to rack up at least a million dollars in winnings.
 

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I just read a page about Dr. Tom Bearden who seems to be into this type of stuff as well.

Tom is a leading conceptualist in alternate energy technology, mind/matter interaction, EM bioeffects, paranormal phenomena, parapsychology, psychotronics, Tesla technology, and unified field theory concepts

Seems interesting enough, but the implications of the tech that they refer too are too far reaching(too good/bad to be true) to have me believing in it yet... Also, his site appears to be about 5 years old and if they were on the "brink" of a breakthrough, I would have hoped to hear more about it on cnn by now...


jt
 

brtspears2

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Originally posted by: HappyPuppy
We have a whole bunch of Indian casinos here in CA and every one of them practically guarantees in their advertising that you will be a winner and walk away with far more money than you arrived with. I'm going to the Pechanga Casino tonight and tomorrow I'm going to call up my boss and tell him where to stick it because I'm going to rack up at least a million dollars in winnings.

I left a winner. I left with a free collectors cup and $200.
 

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Originally posted by: gopunk
yea and this nigerian guy wants to give me a few million bucks

You too... wow, i guess he contacted us because we seem so intellint... or is that intellent... i forget...
 

UlricT

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Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski
Originally posted by: Chadder007
If there was really anything like this...or if this is of course somehow real. Corporations would never let it get through and everyone would be paid off to ignore the discovery because business's would fall.



Yup, you think the oil companies or electric companies would let something like this continue. Hell no. They would kill for it, that way when they do run out of oil, they can be our saviour by bringing about this new clean, free energy, and charge up the wazoo to get it to you.

hmmm... any of you guys seen chain reaction? (keanu reaves' other action movie :p ) sounds too much like it for my confort...

mmm hmmm... love the smell of a good conspiracy theory. :D
 

brtspears2

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I know for a fact free energy is a viable thing.

Too bad it won't power my car, since it comes out of my ASS in a gasous form
 

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Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: DaveSimmons
gold-to-lead machines

think you got that backward.



covered up just like the 70 mpg carburetor?

Actually, the 70, or 90, or 120, or whatever.. mpg.. carburetor is a myth.

It just doesen't work like that. I'm too tired to explain why. :p
 

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I remmber going to that web site before. If you actually read the whole thing, somewhere in there is a power source. Everybody at work (a bunch oif engineers) laughed at it. It is totally absurd. It is an easy way to get money from those with little common sense.
 

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Here's something I always wanted to investigate.

Make a vehicle that weighs about 100 pounds for hte fram/wheels. Tubular aluminum or titanoium or something. Basically set it up so four people are in the position that you would require for a bicycle. Have everybody peddle to get the bike moving on level/upgrades. When on a downgrade, everyone could still peddle, but instead charge a battery bank. On uphills, the stored poewr in the batteries could aid in gettting hte people uphill.

In 5 years time probably, capacitors will be a viable option to battery based storage, so eventually, everytihng would be lighter.

By making an aerodynamic shell around everyone, isn't it possible to keep a velocity of say 20-30 miles per hour quite easily over a long distance?

Anybody in CT/RI willing to try this out?
 

Eli

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Originally posted by: kherman
Here's something I always wanted to investigate.

Make a vehicle that weighs about 100 pounds for hte fram/wheels. Tubular aluminum or titanoium or something. Basically set it up so four people are in the position that you would require for a bicycle. Have everybody peddle to get the bike moving on level/upgrades. When on a downgrade, everyone could still peddle, but instead charge a battery bank. On uphills, the stored poewr in the batteries could aid in gettting hte people uphill.

In 5 years time probably, capacitors will be a viable option to battery based storage, so eventually, everytihng would be lighter.

By making an aerodynamic shell around everyone, isn't it possible to keep a velocity of say 20-30 miles per hour quite easily over a long distance?

Anybody in CT/RI willing to try this out?

:confused:

Capacitors store electrical energy. They don't convert chemical energy into electrical energy.... they're not really analogous to a battery.

In your above mentioned plan, I'm sure you could store the captured energy in capacitors.. but I think a capacitor large enough to store tens of amphours would be quite large and heavy, moreso than a lead-acid battery.. :p
 

kherman

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Originally posted by: Eli
Originally posted by: kherman
Here's something I always wanted to investigate.

Make a vehicle that weighs about 100 pounds for hte fram/wheels. Tubular aluminum or titanoium or something. Basically set it up so four people are in the position that you would require for a bicycle. Have everybody peddle to get the bike moving on level/upgrades. When on a downgrade, everyone could still peddle, but instead charge a battery bank. On uphills, the stored poewr in the batteries could aid in gettting hte people uphill.

In 5 years time probably, capacitors will be a viable option to battery based storage, so eventually, everytihng would be lighter.

By making an aerodynamic shell around everyone, isn't it possible to keep a velocity of say 20-30 miles per hour quite easily over a long distance?

Anybody in CT/RI willing to try this out?

:confused:

Capacitors store electrical energy. They don't convert chemical energy into electrical energy.... they're not really analogous to a battery.

In your above mentioned plan, I'm sure you could store the captured energy in capacitors.. but I think a capacitor large enough to store tens of amphours would be quite large and heavy, moreso than a lead-acid battery.. :p

Well, batteries(rechargable): Electricity goes in. Electricity goes out.
Capacitors: Electricity goes in. Electricity goes out.

I'd say they are both analogous to eachother.

As for capacitive storage. Remember, that when capacitors first came out. A 1 farad capacitor was the size of a large room. now they are the size of a coke can. Also, they already have capacitor prototypes the size of car batteries that store the equivilent of a car battery. it's all in labs, but they exist. Not sure how they define "equivilent" though. CCA, Power, etc?

I actually think in the future, cars will run off of capacitor banks that are charged at home and plugged into your vehicle. In my mind, it's not a matter of if. It's a matter of when. Even if it is as far out as 30 years.