Did you guys hear about this?

[z1ggy]

I would post the link to this story but I read it today at work online. A schizophrenic man had some kind of "panic attack" on a greyhound bus and stabbed the man next to him 50-60 times. Not only did he stab him he proceeded to cut his head off and then eat his dead body. Now they are considering letting him go free because "he is on good meds now". WTF?Is somebody forcing them down his throat everyday? I say he should be in jail with all the other killers..or some kind of hospital for the rest of his life. What are your opinions?

 

[xSauronx]

is this the story from....say 6 months ago or whatever? thanks for the link :|

 

[Hacp]

Originally posted by: z1ggy
I would post the link to this story but I read it today at work online. A schizophrenic man had some kind of "panic attack" on a greyhound bus and stabbed the man next to him 50-60 times. Not only did he stab him he proceeded to cut his head off and then eat his dead body. Now they are considering letting him go free because "he is on good meds now". WTF?Is somebody forcing them down his throat everyday? I say he should be in jail with all the other killers..or some kind of hospital for the rest of his life. What are your opinions?

Only in Canada. Thank god I live in the US.

 

[z1ggy]

http://www.zimbio.com/Vince+We...+bus+beheading+man+not

There is the link 😛

Absolutely F*cked up is what I call that story.

 

[IronWing]

"But I feel much better now."

 

[moparacer]

Li had repeatedly stabbed McLean, who had been asleep on the seat next to him, sawn off his head, removed his internal organs, pocketed his nose, tongue and an ear, and taunted police and bystanders with the severed head.

Nice......WTF

 

[TehMac]

Originally posted by: Hacp

Originally posted by: z1ggy
I would post the link to this story but I read it today at work online. A schizophrenic man had some kind of "panic attack" on a greyhound bus and stabbed the man next to him 50-60 times. Not only did he stab him he proceeded to cut his head off and then eat his dead body. Now they are considering letting him go free because "he is on good meds now". WTF?Is somebody forcing them down his throat everyday? I say he should be in jail with all the other killers..or some kind of hospital for the rest of his life. What are your opinions?

Only in Canada. Thank god I live in the US.

And Canadians bitch why people think they're a bunch of pussies? This guy should be on death row.

 

[z1ggy]

As long as this nut job is kept in the loony bin than Im okay with that, but somebody like that should NOT be allowed to walk around on the street.

 

[GodlessAstronomer]

Originally posted by: Hacp

Originally posted by: z1ggy
I would post the link to this story but I read it today at work online. A schizophrenic man had some kind of "panic attack" on a greyhound bus and stabbed the man next to him 50-60 times. Not only did he stab him he proceeded to cut his head off and then eat his dead body. Now they are considering letting him go free because "he is on good meds now". WTF?Is somebody forcing them down his throat everyday? I say he should be in jail with all the other killers..or some kind of hospital for the rest of his life. What are your opinions?

Only in Canada. Thank god I live in the US.

The American justice system is perfect?

 

[CKent]

Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer

Originally posted by: Hacp

Originally posted by: z1ggy
I would post the link to this story but I read it today at work online. A schizophrenic man had some kind of "panic attack" on a greyhound bus and stabbed the man next to him 50-60 times. Not only did he stab him he proceeded to cut his head off and then eat his dead body. Now they are considering letting him go free because "he is on good meds now". WTF?Is somebody forcing them down his throat everyday? I say he should be in jail with all the other killers..or some kind of hospital for the rest of his life. What are your opinions?

Only in Canada. Thank god I live in the US.

The American justice system is perfect?

It takes an idiot to think in blacks & whites, it's not surprising you were the first to step up :laugh:

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Anyway, I'm not at all surprised. Robert Pickton, a Canadian serial killer who killed 7 women, got a life sentence, but with the possibility of parole after 25 years, in 2003 Text.

Yves Trudeau, a Canadian hit man with 43 admitted kills, got a life sentence but with the possibility of parole after only 7 years, in 1985. Text

Gerald Galant, another Canadian hit man but with "only" 27 admitted kills, is also eligible for parole after 25 years. Text

And two Canadians involved in the recent premeditated slaughter of four mounties received 7 and 10 years (I'd assume they're eligible for parole before then), and are appealing nonetheless. Text

Canada is currently where the US will be in another 25 years I would guess: licking criminals' balls. Everyone deserves a second (and third, and fourth, and...) chance - except victims of crime.

 

[ConstipatedVigilante]

I don't fucking care if he's "on the right meds"! Anyone who does that without being on meds shouldn't be in public, period. Wtf is wrong with the Canadian courts?

 

[LOUISSSSS]

so its confirmed that this guy is free to go?

 

[SirStev0]

Originally posted by: Hacp

Originally posted by: z1ggy
I would post the link to this story but I read it today at work online. A schizophrenic man had some kind of "panic attack" on a greyhound bus and stabbed the man next to him 50-60 times. Not only did he stab him he proceeded to cut his head off and then eat his dead body. Now they are considering letting him go free because "he is on good meds now". WTF?Is somebody forcing them down his throat everyday? I say he should be in jail with all the other killers..or some kind of hospital for the rest of his life. What are your opinions?

Only in Canada. Thank god I live in the US.

congrats on being delusional.

A schizo on meds is pretty much just like any other normal person. Consider yourself lucky that your mind hasn't decided to turn on you just yet, because you can easily be in his shoes. It is a chemical imbalance one that can be controlled and fixed. Dick head.

 

[SirStev0]

Is everyone in this thread stupid? This doesn't just happen in Canada or France or whatever your scapegoat country might be. It happens all the time in the good ole US of A. It is called the insanity plea. When you are on your meds and acting normal they let you go (unless there is a specific court order for how long you must be in the institution).

 

[TehMac]

Originally posted by: SirStev0
congrats on being delusional.

A schizo on meds is pretty much just like any other normal person. Consider yourself lucky that your mind hasn't decided to turn on you just yet, because you can easily be in his shoes. It is a chemical imbalance one that can be controlled and fixed. Dick head.

Schizos who forget to take their meds, or don't want to, are not "regular people."

Case in point: woman who didn't take her meds, tossed her 4 children over the side of a bridge.

that could easily happen with this character.

 

[TehMac]

Originally posted by: SirStev0
Is everyone in this thread stupid? This doesn't just happen in Canada or France or whatever your scapegoat country might be. It happens all the time in the good ole US of A. It is called the insanity plea. When you are on your meds and acting normal they let you go (unless there is a specific court order for how long you must be in the institution).

Not necessarily true at all. Guy who murdered his family a while back pleaded insanity, got shut away into a mental hospital, and now complains that he doesn't like it!

He now wants to be free. If he was anywhere but the South, the asshole would be stalking the streets again.

 

[SirStev0]

Originally posted by: TehMac

Originally posted by: SirStev0
congrats on being delusional.

A schizo on meds is pretty much just like any other normal person. Consider yourself lucky that your mind hasn't decided to turn on you just yet, because you can easily be in his shoes. It is a chemical imbalance one that can be controlled and fixed. Dick head.

Schizos who forget to take their meds, or don't want to, are not "regular people."

Case in point: woman who didn't take her meds, tossed her 4 children over the side of a bridge.

that could easily happen with this character.

So because one day he might stop taking his meds you think he should be locked away for life?

Man you sound like the same assholes who think all guns should be banned because some day it might go off and kill someone.

Schizophrenia can come up on you without you even realizing it.
EDIT: continued
I don't know the whole story, but assuming that he was never diagnosed and never on meds I don't think he should necessarily be tossed in jail with the key thrown away. If it came upon him suddenly he might not have even known anything was wrong at first and by the time he did, well it is really hard for an delusional paranoid person to ask for help.

If his doctors think that his disorder is controlled and that he is compliant with his meds I have no problem with him going free. But of course, he should be monitored for complacence.

 

[Hacp]

Originally posted by: TehMac

Originally posted by: SirStev0
Is everyone in this thread stupid? This doesn't just happen in Canada or France or whatever your scapegoat country might be. It happens all the time in the good ole US of A. It is called the insanity plea. When you are on your meds and acting normal they let you go (unless there is a specific court order for how long you must be in the institution).

Not necessarily true at all. Guy who murdered his family a while back pleaded insanity, got shut away into a mental hospital, and now complains that he doesn't like it!

He now wants to be free. If he was anywhere but the South, the asshole would be stalking the streets again.

:thumbsup:

We need to lay down the law with this insanity plea nonsense. Too many criminals try for the insanity defense. You give them an inch and they ask for light years! No more insanity defense in my opinion. If they killed someone, I don't care if they have brain cancer or some other disease that affects the neurological thought process, they deserve to die or rot in prison.

 

[SirStev0]

Originally posted by: Hacp

Originally posted by: TehMac

Originally posted by: SirStev0
Is everyone in this thread stupid? This doesn't just happen in Canada or France or whatever your scapegoat country might be. It happens all the time in the good ole US of A. It is called the insanity plea. When you are on your meds and acting normal they let you go (unless there is a specific court order for how long you must be in the institution).

Not necessarily true at all. Guy who murdered his family a while back pleaded insanity, got shut away into a mental hospital, and now complains that he doesn't like it!

He now wants to be free. If he was anywhere but the South, the asshole would be stalking the streets again.

:thumbsup:

We need to lay down the law with this insanity plea nonsense. Too many criminals try for the insanity defense. You give them an inch and they ask for light years! No more insanity defense in my opinion. If they killed someone, I don't care if they have brain cancer or some other disease that affects the neurological though process, they deserve to die or rot in prison.

Congrats again on letting your ignorance shine through.

Has it been abused? Of course it has. Does that mean there are not legitimate cases? Fuck no.

The point of Prison is rehabilitation by means of punishment. A person with a psychological disorder needs to be punished like I need another piece of pie. They need FUCKING PSYCHOLOGICAL AND MEDICAL HELP. Prisons aren't equipped or prepared to do this. It is the reason why we have mental institutions.

 

[jpeyton]

If I recall correctly, in the original thread discussing this beheading, this outcome was predicted well in advance.

If this verdict is truly surprising to you, you probably have very little idea of the way the justice system works.

Instead of being locked up in a prison cell, he'll be locked up in a psychiatric ward. That's because he's as much of a danger to other prisoners as he is to society.

Because of the severity of his crime, he will likely spend the rest of his life there without any hope of release.

We've become a nation of vigilantes and Monday-morning judges.

 

[TehMac]

Originally posted by: SirStev0
The point of Prison is rehabilitation by means of punishment. A person with a psychological disorder needs to be punished like I need another piece of pie. They need FUCKING PSYCHOLOGICAL AND MEDICAL HELP. Prisons aren't equipped or prepared to do this. It is the reason why we have mental institutions.

That is brilliant and I would agree, however, as I pointed out, the guy who murdered his family was sane, he merely pleaded insanity to avoid the chop.



From the thread title, it sounded like this guy is going to be released

Li is now likely to receive treatment at a secure psychiatric hospital.

receive treatment? How about be stationed there permanently like jpeyton suggests?

 

[z1ggy]

Just wondering as well...AS like any jail system, would a "patient" of the mental ward be let go after X years of good behavior? Like any jail.. they will run out of room at some point. Someone server 15 years for a DWi car crash where he killed a man maybe is let go after 10 because he was well behaved the entire time. Now I don't know if thats exactly how it works, Im an engineer I have basically no exp. with law but would the same thing happen in the mental hospital? Lets say this guy after a few years is on his meds every single day..seems normal.. no more voices. Then what? He's okay again and let go? No way..a disease like this eats at you forever and the same meds don't work. Its almost like your body gets immune to the medicine and eventually you will have to find new stuff. Is this man going to seek the help he NEEDS once this happens?

 

[LikeLinus]

Originally posted by: SirStev0

Originally posted by: TehMac

Originally posted by: SirStev0
congrats on being delusional.

A schizo on meds is pretty much just like any other normal person. Consider yourself lucky that your mind hasn't decided to turn on you just yet, because you can easily be in his shoes. It is a chemical imbalance one that can be controlled and fixed. Dick head.

Schizos who forget to take their meds, or don't want to, are not "regular people."

Case in point: woman who didn't take her meds, tossed her 4 children over the side of a bridge.

that could easily happen with this character.

So because one day he might stop taking his meds you think he should be locked away for life?

Man you sound like the same assholes who think all guns should be banned because some day it might go off and kill someone.

No, he doesn't need a life sentence because he "might" do something. He needs to be in jail for life because he fucking MURDERED SOMEONE. He cut their head off, he took the life of a person. He proceeded to eat parts of them and show the head to police and others. Dude you're fucking delusional. He's psychotic and the changes of him doing this again are high. Meds fix things, but there has to be something really wrong with a person to do the kind of thing he did. How many people with this disease are around the world? Now, how many of them behead someone? Get a clue. This isn't just some guy freaking out because he's off his meds. He committed a horrendous crime. He deserves to be in jail for life because he took someone elses life.

 

[allisolm]

Originally posted by: LOUISSSSS
so its confirmed that this guy is free to go?

He's not free to go.

http://ca.reuters.com/article/.../idCATRE5536J220090604

''...will be confined to a secure ward in a mental hospital"

"...must be escorted by two hospital staff any time he leaves the locked ward of the hospital and by two police officers if he's required to leave the hospital."

"The review board has not released reasons for its decision, which must be reviewed at least annually."

 

[TehMac]

Originally posted by: SirStev0

Man you sound like the same assholes who think all guns should be banned because some day it might go off and kill someone.

Schizophrenia can come up on you without you even realizing it.

1) No, because most people are normal, sure, people can flip, but that's why other people should be armed.

2) Schizophrenia is you hearing of voices within your head, caused of dopamine stimulation malfunction. This is not unnoticeable. The longer it goes untreated however, the more severe it can become.

Schizophrenia can happen because of an excess of drugs, which stimulates dopamine to be released in the brain. This can cause the brain to release its dopamine automatically, and some dopamine can stimulate certain parts of the brain that otherwise are not unless someone actually speaks or a noise is produced.