Did the Trump organization have a server communicating with a Russian bank?

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HamburgerBoy

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So in other words your just thread crapping ?

Did I reply to the opening post with my first post? No, I replied to a later post, and made a specific reply relevant to a specific point brought up by the OP. Do you not approve? Are you a member of this slumber party too?

The way the forums are supposed to work is someone posts a topic and someone does not randomly derail it.

This thread is about Alfa-Bank and Trump connections. The creator of the thread later brought up a post alleging a further connection due to a Trump advisor also being a board member of Alfa-Bank. I replied to that post.
 

DrDoug

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This thread is about Alfa-Bank and Trump connections. The creator of the thread later brought up a post alleging a further connection due to a Trump advisor also being a board member of Alfa-Bank. I replied to that post.

And I'm posting links to information as I find it. Ask all the questions you want, maybe I'll find the answers and get back to you. Until then, you're on your own, Big Boy...lol!

ProTip: Maybe look for answers like I do instead of begging bystanders for the answers. Get off your duff...
 
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ivwshane

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I don't know what this thread is about as it seems like a conspiracy theory to me and I try not to bother with them.

Having said that I will say this, I don't think trump is in cahoots with the Russians, trump is simply the useful idiot. And really, that's been the role trump has been playing his entire life. That's why he appears in stupid movies, talk shows, call ins, parties, celebrity events, etc. The Russians don't care if trump wins, that's not their end goal, their end goal is to call into question the capability or the perceived infallibility of our democracy. Many countries wish to emulate us (I'd say the number has been declining) and if the narrative becomes that the US is no longer the nation that should be emulated, Russia can come in and lend them their support and influence. That's more useful and longer lasting than a sympathetic US president.
 
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MongGrel

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I don't know what this thread is about as it seems like a conspiracy theory to me and I try not to bother with them.

Having said that I will say this, I don't think trump is in cahoots with the Russians, trump is simply the useful idiot. And really, that's been the role trump has been playing his entire life. That's why he appears in stupid movies, talk shows, call ins, parties, celebrity events, etc. The Russians don't care if trump wins, that's not their end goal, their end goal is to call into question the capability or the perceived infallibility of our democracy. Many countries wish to emulate us (I'd say the number has been declining) and if the narrative becomes that the US is no longer the nation that should be emulated, Russia can come in and lend them their support and influence. That's more useful and longer lasting than a sympathetic US president.

I'd like to try to find a few Russian related ones even farther before Manafort, but the forum has been spammed so much it is hard to look for one specifically these days.

https://forums.anandtech.com/thread...by-for-ukraine-now-fbi-investigation.2483512/

There was a good one related to Trumps connections awhile back.
 

DrDoug

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I don't think trump is in cahoots with the Russians, trump is simply the useful idiot.

I agree, he's too damned stupid to be anything but that. That doesn't change the fact that the election has a lot of Russian stink coming out of strange places. I have no doubt that Trump is doing business with people in Russia, as he does in other places in the world. I liken watching out for Trump and Russia much in the way someone watches over a child because you know they will get in over their head in nothing flat.

That's just another day for Trump.
 

agent00f

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I don't know what this thread is about as it seems like a conspiracy theory to me and I try not to bother with them.

Having said that I will say this, I don't think trump is in cahoots with the Russians, trump is simply the useful idiot. And really, that's been the role trump has been playing his entire life. That's why he appears in stupid movies, talk shows, call ins, parties, celebrity events, etc. The Russians don't care if trump wins, that's not their end goal, their end goal is to call into question the capability or the perceived infallibility of our democracy. Many countries wish to emulate us (I'd say the number has been declining) and if the narrative becomes that the US is no longer the nation that should be emulated, Russia can come in and lend them their support and influence. That's more useful and longer lasting than a sympathetic US president.

The technical info available just says there's odd likely human bilateral communication between a trump mail server and one for a russian bank, communication which persisted from the russian side even after the trump server was "moved/switched". Of course both sides should know more about the details of what was communicated, but clearly they aren't talking.

Anyway, Trump doesn't appear in stupid entertainment media to be a useful idiot, he's there to build/sell his brand, which has evidently worked out rather well for him. Right now the interests of putin and trump/gop happen to coincide in a common enemy w/ clinton, so they're acting in the good graces of each other with putin providing some ammunition to his proxy. There's no greater narrative necessary other than doing right by your enemy's enemy.
 

DrDoug

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Drezner has an article up at WaPo about a recent trip to Russia and his observations:

1) Russian-American relations are going to be bad for a good long spell. Regardless of the nationality or ideological predisposition of the participant, everyone attending Valdai thought this to be true. ...

2) Russia’s grand strategy is for Russia to be treated like a great power. That’s it. A lot of high-ranking Russian officials came to chat, and the questions from the participants were quite good. But one exchange stood out. A non-American noted that Russia’s pre-2008 rhetoric toward the U.S. was, essentially, “We disapprove of your revisionist actions in the world but will not take similar actions because we believe in Westphalian sovereignty.” The post-2008 rhetoric has been, essentially, “We get to do what you’ve done in the past.” ...

3) Russia’s economy is not in great shape. Nothing was said at Valdai that contradicted Arkady Ostrovsky’s acute diagnosis of Russia’s political economy in the Economist from last week. Indeed, some officials confirmed the economic policy problems that were discussed in that survey. Sanctions and low energy prices have hurt the Russian economy. ...

4) Vladimir Putin is, like, super-passive-aggressive. Props to the Russian leader — he took questions from the participants for more than two hours, and seemed perfectly at ease doing so. But when the conversation turned to sensitive flash points, he got very snarky. ...

Those are his words, but the transcript does not do justice to Putin’s tone. Rhetorically, Putin kept nominally declaring that he didn’t care who won the U.S. election, all the while venting his spleen about Hillary Clinton*. And it’s interesting that Putin’s line about this so perfectly parallels Donald Trump’s line.

* my emphasis

That explains Russia's hacking focus on the DNC and Clinton, the enemy of my enemy and all that.
 

ivwshane

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The technical info available just says there's odd likely human bilateral communication between a trump mail server and one for a russian bank, communication which persisted from the russian side even after the trump server was "moved/switched". Of course both sides should know more about the details of what was communicated, but clearly they aren't talking.

Anyway, Trump doesn't appear in stupid entertainment media to be a useful idiot, he's there to build/sell his brand, which has evidently worked out rather well for him. Right now the interests of putin and trump/gop happen to coincide in a common enemy w/ clinton, so they're acting in the good graces of each other with putin providing some ammunition to his proxy. There's no greater narrative necessary other than doing right by your enemy's enemy.

I think you misunderstand me. I'm not trying to say trump knowingly plays the useful idiot, I'm saying people use him as such. Trump, of course, sees it as free publicity for his band. Call it a symbiotic relationship if you will.