Did the bible predict that the Arabs would be out of control?

[HeXploiT]

Both the Jews and the Arabs attribute their lineage to Abraham. The Jews came from Sarah(Abrahams wife) and the Arabs from Hagar(Sarahs servant whom Sarah told to sleep with Abraham as she could not conceive.)
So the Sarah bore Isaac(Jews) and Hagar bore Ishmael(Arabs).
Neither Arab nor Jew will dispute this.

Genesis 16:11 says the following:

And the angel of the LORD said unto her(Hagar), Behold, thou art with child and shalt bear a son, and shalt call his name Ishmael; because the LORD hath heard thy affliction.

16:12 And he will be a wild man; his hand will be against every man, and every man's hand against him; and he shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren.

So did the bible predict the state of the Arabs or is this just an incredibly ironic lucky guess?

 

[apoppin]

You need to remember this -
-The "Bible" is "Jewish and Christian Propaganda"

it *predicts* an outcome based on the views of the descendants of Abraham - through Isaac - and his relationship with their god - Yahweh

BtW, Yahweh - "God of the Jews" is Jesus Own Father [his name was Michael pre-earth] according to scripture - and the "Other Great Competing God" are half-brothers; or conflicting views of the same God ... but the Arabs would be most offended by even the thought of it - as they say there is "One" and their father is Ishmael True Son of Abraham and Mohamed is his True Prophet .. and yet the Jews cry there is "One Yahweh" and Christians scream "He is three" - even though Arabs and Jews are both descended from Abraham through different Wives and Jesus was a Jew that gave the Promise to Outsiders.

So Jews, Arabs and Christians are all cousins and were all promised => "The Promised Land" by their "GOD" [same one; different vision] - When THEY finally figure out how to ALL co-exist peacefully [Christian/Jew/Muslim; then Yahweh/Allah/Jesus's Will is Done and the Earth will be returned to Paradise; if not, Har-mageddon and YHWH will make everything "new - and the former things will not be called into mind any more"

Actually, Michael and Lucifer are Twin brothers.
--This is all according to the Oldest Word which predates the Old Testament

so it is a family affair

Do you want to base your life on predictions from 5,000 to 2,000 years ago that are subject to interpretation 3 ways?

 

[spittledip]

Seems like a prediction to me... There are alot more predictions where that one came from. And some more to come too. Things like scarcity of food and stuff like that. fun times.

and Yahweh is the Father, not 2 different Gods just in case you wanted to know. And most Arabs would claim that the God of the Bible is the God of the Quran. What would be offensive to them is if you suggested that Allah had a brother or that there was a God other than Allah.

 

[jpeyton]

It reads like a bad, generic prediction from a 900-number psychic.

 

[pstylesss]

Originally posted by: apoppin
You need to remember this -
-The "Bible" is "Jewish and Christian Propaganda"

it *predicts* an outcome based on the views of the descendants of Abraham - through Isaac - and his relationship with their god - Yahweh

BtW, Yahweh - "God of the Jews" is Jesus Own Father [his name was Michael pre-earth] according to scripture - and the "Other Great Competing God" are half-brothers; or conflicting views of the same God ... but the Arabs would be most offended by even the thought of it - as they say there is "One" and their father is Ishmael True Son of Abraham and Mohamed is his True Prophet .. and yet the Jews cry there is "One Yahweh" and Christians scream "He is three" - even though Arabs and Jews are both descended from Abraham through different Wives and Jesus was a Jew that gave the Promise to Outsiders.

So Jews, Arabs and Christians are all cousins and were all promised => "The Promised Land" by their "GOD" [same one; different vision] - When THEY finally figure out how to ALL co-exist peacefully [Christian/Jew/Muslim; then Yahweh/Allah/Jesus's Will is Done and the Earth will be returned to Paradise; if not, Har-mageddon and YHWH will make everything "new - and the former things will not be called into mind any more"

Actually, Michael and Lucifer are Twin brothers.
--This is all according to the Oldest Word which predates the Old Testament

so it is a family affair

Do you want to base your life on predictions from 5,000 to 2,000 years ago that are subject to interpretation 3 ways?

That is mormon doctrine and is not found in the Bible.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Originally posted by: Perry404
Both the Jews and the Arabs attribute their lineage to Abraham. The Jews came from Sarah(Abrahams wife) and the Arabs from Hagar(Sarahs servant whom Sarah told to sleep with Abraham as she could not conceive.)
So the Sarah bore Isaac(Jews) and Hagar bore Ishmael(Arabs).
Neither Arab nor Jew will dispute this.

Genesis 16:11 says the following:

And the angel of the LORD said unto her(Hagar), Behold, thou art with child and shalt bear a son, and shalt call his name Ishmael; because the LORD hath heard thy affliction.

16:12 And he will be a wild man; his hand will be against every man, and every man's hand against him; and he shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren.

So did the bible predict the state of the Arabs or is this just an incredibly ironic lucky guess?

While it is true that the Jewish and Muslim faith is much closer to each other than Christianity is to either, all three have the original Torah as the base, the God of Abraham is the Christian god too.

I'm afraid you don't know [deleted] on the rest though, "The Jews came from Sarah"????

[deleted]

................

The divide started with Isaac and Ishmael and no, i am not going to repeat the entire story, however, now that you know, you can use google and read up for yourself.

 

[spittledip]

Originally posted by: jpeyton
It reads like a bad, generic prediction from a 900-number psychic.

Really? Those usually read fame and fortune, and usually just for one person. Considering it is addressing the "behavior" of several nations and how they relate to other nations, it is a pretty interesting and accurate prediction.

 

[NoStateofMind]

What some may not understand is that each religion is right. Those people from different races & customs interpreted God as they knew or thought of Him. I know it may not be easy to grasp. Allah is the same as the Christian God or the "trinity" as some believe. God is not exclusive but all inclusive.

 

[HeXploiT]

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: Perry404
Both the Jews and the Arabs attribute their lineage to Abraham. The Jews came from Sarah(Abrahams wife) and the Arabs from Hagar(Sarahs servant whom Sarah told to sleep with Abraham as she could not conceive.)
So the Sarah bore Isaac(Jews) and Hagar bore Ishmael(Arabs).
Neither Arab nor Jew will dispute this.

Genesis 16:11 says the following:

And the angel of the LORD said unto her(Hagar), Behold, thou art with child and shalt bear a son, and shalt call his name Ishmael; because the LORD hath heard thy affliction.

16:12 And he will be a wild man; his hand will be against every man, and every man's hand against him; and he shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren.

So did the bible predict the state of the Arabs or is this just an incredibly ironic lucky guess?

While it is true that the Jewish and Muslim faith is much closer to each other than Christianity is to either, all three have the original Torah as the base, the God of Abraham is the Christian god too.

I'm afraid you don't know your [delete] on the rest though, "The Jews came from Sarah"????

[delete]

................

The divide started with Isaac and Ishmael and no, i am not going to repeat the entire story, however, now that you know, you can use google and read up for yourself.

What? Sarah isn't the mother of Isaac? Please enlighten us.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Originally posted by: PC Surgeon
What some may not understand is that each religion is right. Those people from different races & customs interpreted God as they knew or thought of Him. I know it may not be easy to grasp. Allah is the same as the Christian God or the "trinity" as some believe. God is not exclusive but all inclusive.

You know what *I* find funny? That Christianity and Hinduism share the concepts of the one god, many shapes and still Christians believe that Hinduism is polytheistic.

What can i say? Christianity is a train wreck of faith, they don't even get their faith themselves.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: ZeroIQ

Originally posted by: apoppin
You need to remember this -
-The "Bible" is "Jewish and Christian Propaganda"

it *predicts* an outcome based on the views of the descendants of Abraham - through Isaac - and his relationship with their god - Yahweh

BtW, Yahweh - "God of the Jews" is Jesus Own Father [his name was Michael pre-earth] according to scripture - and the "Other Great Competing God" are half-brothers; or conflicting views of the same God ... but the Arabs would be most offended by even the thought of it - as they say there is "One" and their father is Ishmael True Son of Abraham and Mohamed is his True Prophet .. and yet the Jews cry there is "One Yahweh" and Christians scream "He is three" - even though Arabs and Jews are both descended from Abraham through different Wives and Jesus was a Jew that gave the Promise to Outsiders.

So Jews, Arabs and Christians are all cousins and were all promised => "The Promised Land" by their "GOD" [same one; different vision] - When THEY finally figure out how to ALL co-exist peacefully [Christian/Jew/Muslim; then Yahweh/Allah/Jesus's Will is Done and the Earth will be returned to Paradise; if not, Har-mageddon and YHWH will make everything "new - and the former things will not be called into mind any more"

Actually, Michael and Lucifer are Twin brothers.
--This is all according to the Oldest Word which predates the Old Testament

so it is a family affair

Do you want to base your life on predictions from 5,000 to 2,000 years ago that are subject to interpretation 3 ways?

That is mormon doctrine and is not found in the Bible.

i don't know Mormon doctrine - not at all; other than Joe Smith was the founder in the USA and they believe the Jews went to the USA - to Salt Lake - not at ALL what i believe; something about God being a "physical" body and "married for eternity" - nope NOTHING like what i believe

i know the oldest writings .. and they were deleted from the Bible to suit the Jews

Here - i just Google'd it -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormons

^^this is what i know about the cult of mormon

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Originally posted by: Perry404

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: Perry404
Both the Jews and the Arabs attribute their lineage to Abraham. The Jews came from Sarah(Abrahams wife) and the Arabs from Hagar(Sarahs servant whom Sarah told to sleep with Abraham as she could not conceive.)
So the Sarah bore Isaac(Jews) and Hagar bore Ishmael(Arabs).
Neither Arab nor Jew will dispute this.

Genesis 16:11 says the following:

And the angel of the LORD said unto her(Hagar), Behold, thou art with child and shalt bear a son, and shalt call his name Ishmael; because the LORD hath heard thy affliction.

16:12 And he will be a wild man; his hand will be against every man, and every man's hand against him; and he shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren.

So did the bible predict the state of the Arabs or is this just an incredibly ironic lucky guess?

While it is true that the Jewish and Muslim faith is much closer to each other than Christianity is to either, all three have the original Torah as the base, the God of Abraham is the Christian god too.

I'm afraid you don't know your cock from your nose on the rest though, "The Jews came from Sarah"????

Wow, do you take stupid-class to make you that stupid?

................

The divide started with Isaac and Ishmael and no, i am not going to repeat the entire story, however, now that you know, you can use google and read up for yourself.

What? Sarah isn't the mother of Isaac? Please enlighten us.

Son, Ishmael had the same mum as Isaac, the divide started with the sons, not with their mothers.

This is fairly well known to anyone who knows the story of Abrahm, Isaac, Ishmael, Jacob and Hagar.

Genesis handles the story, you should read it.

He died at the age of 137 (and since people lived either normal lifetimes or 500 years in those days, he either lived longer than he should have, or died young)

 

[apoppin]

Ishmael had the same mum as Isaac

Wrong - same dad - Abraham - different moms - Sarah and Hagar

Isaac was the Son of Abraham and Sarah - according to the Bible; Isaac became father of Jacob [Israel] and his Twin brother Esau - also Arab

Ishmael was the Son of Abraham and his concubine Hagar who was sent into the desert at the the request of Sarah and Ishmael became the father of the Arabs according also to Yahweh's promise [but the Arabs say Ishmael was the true Son of the Free woman and Father Abraham and Allah promised them the Land]


Genesis Chapter 16 & 21

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormon_cosmology

sorry, the above is a confused mess picked from every religion - NOT at ALL what i believe about Chaos

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Originally posted by: PC Surgeon
What some may not understand is that each religion is right. Those people from different races & customs interpreted God as they knew or thought of Him. I know it may not be easy to grasp. Allah is the same as the Christian God or the "trinity" as some believe. God is not exclusive but all inclusive.

No, what each and every religion is is WRONG, not right, all man made, all god of the gaps that have been backing up since the dawn of advanced science and eventually, we'll not have to have a god to explain ANYTHING.

But there will always be young earth creationists who will fight to keep their own children ignorant, stupid is as stupid does.

Though while in the US, faith is key to become president, in the UK, it's a personal thing and never mentioned by any aspiring politician, i mean, anyone who believes that a snake told a woman made from a rib that she should eat an apple and thus gain knowledge and be kicked out of Gods garden has to understand that he needs help by a gang of therapists.

Yeah, Barak, George and Hillary, i'm talking about you.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: PC Surgeon
What some may not understand is that each religion is right. Those people from different races & customs interpreted God as they knew or thought of Him. I know it may not be easy to grasp. Allah is the same as the Christian God or the "trinity" as some believe. God is not exclusive but all inclusive.

No, what each and every religion is is WRONG, not right, all man made, all god of the gaps that have been backing up since the dawn of advanced science and eventually, we'll not have to have a god to explain ANYTHING.

But there will always be young earth creationists who will fight to keep their own children ignorant, stupid is as stupid does.

Though while in the US, faith is key to become president, in the UK, it's a personal thing and never mentioned by any aspiring politician, i mean, anyone who believes that a snake told a woman made from a rib that she should eat an apple and thus gain knowledge and be kicked out of Gods garden has to understand that he needs help by a gang of therapists.

Yeah, Barak, George and Hillary, i'm talking about you.

How do you know YOU are right?

perhaps it IS metaphysical ..

-you even wrongly believe and claim that Ishmael and Issac have the same mothers - they do NOT ! - they share only the same Father Abraham

 

[HeXploiT]

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: Perry404

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: Perry404
Both the Jews and the Arabs attribute their lineage to Abraham. The Jews came from Sarah(Abrahams wife) and the Arabs from Hagar(Sarahs servant whom Sarah told to sleep with Abraham as she could not conceive.)
So the Sarah bore Isaac(Jews) and Hagar bore Ishmael(Arabs).
Neither Arab nor Jew will dispute this.

Genesis 16:11 says the following:

And the angel of the LORD said unto her(Hagar), Behold, thou art with child and shalt bear a son, and shalt call his name Ishmael; because the LORD hath heard thy affliction.

16:12 And he will be a wild man; his hand will be against every man, and every man's hand against him; and he shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren.

So did the bible predict the state of the Arabs or is this just an incredibly ironic lucky guess?

While it is true that the Jewish and Muslim faith is much closer to each other than Christianity is to either, all three have the original Torah as the base, the God of Abraham is the Christian god too.

I'm afraid you don't know your cock from your nose on the rest though, "The Jews came from Sarah"????

Wow, do you take stupid-class to make you that stupid?

................

The divide started with Isaac and Ishmael and no, i am not going to repeat the entire story, however, now that you know, you can use google and read up for yourself.

What? Sarah isn't the mother of Isaac? Please enlighten us.

Son, Ishmael had the same mum as Isaac, the divide started with the sons, not with their mothers.

This is fairly well known to anyone who knows the story of Abrahm, Isaac, Ishmael, Jacob and Hagar.

Genesis handles the story, you should read it.

He died at the age of 137 (and since people lived either normal lifetimes or 500 years in those days, he either lived longer than he should have, or died young)

Tell you what I'll read it again but that's not really a problem for me and I believe I have my history correct.
I recommend you read it as well.
Sarah could not have children so she told Hagar to sleep with Abraham.
Hagar became pregnant and than Sarah conceived as well just as God Promised Abraham.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Originally posted by: apoppin

Ishmael had the same mum as Isaac

Wrong - same dad - Abraham - different moms - Sarah and Hagar

Isaac was the Son of Abraham and Sarah - according to the Bible; Isaac became father of Jacob [Israel] and his Twin brother Esau - also Arab

Ishmael was the Son of Abraham and his concubine Hagar who was sent into the desert at the the request of Sarah and Ishmael became the father of the Arabs according also to Yahweh's promise [but the Arabs say Ishmael was the true Son of the Free woman and Father Abraham and Allah promised them the Land]


Genesis Chapter 16 & 21

Depends on whether you read the original Torah or the Genesis translated in KJV.

Ishmael WAS the son of Sarah and Abraham according to both, legally.

Now Hagar was no concubine either, that would have been illegal at the time.

None of the three religions really give a fuck about the mother though, as in religion, women are regarded as filthy beasts, "SONS of Abraham ARISE" ring a bell? Not "Sons of Sarah".

To complicate things further, incest and more bullshit followed.

 

[HeXploiT]

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: apoppin

Ishmael had the same mum as Isaac

Wrong - same dad - Abraham - different moms - Sarah and Hagar

Isaac was the Son of Abraham and Sarah - according to the Bible; Isaac became father of Jacob [Israel] and his Twin brother Esau - also Arab

Ishmael was the Son of Abraham and his concubine Hagar who was sent into the desert at the the request of Sarah and Ishmael became the father of the Arabs according also to Yahweh's promise [but the Arabs say Ishmael was the true Son of the Free woman and Father Abraham and Allah promised them the Land]


Genesis Chapter 16 & 21

Depends on whether you read the original Torah or the Genesis translated in KJV.

Ishmael WAS the son of Sarah and Abraham according to both, legally.

Now Hagar was no concubine either, that would have been illegal at the time.

None of the three religions really give a fuck about the mother though, as in religion, women are regarded as filthy beasts, "SONS of Abraham ARISE" ring a bell? Not "Sons of Sarah".

To complicate things further, incest and more bullshit followed.

At least you're not angry at the world.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: apoppin

Ishmael had the same mum as Isaac

Wrong - same dad - Abraham - different moms - Sarah and Hagar

Isaac was the Son of Abraham and Sarah - according to the Bible; Isaac became father of Jacob [Israel] and his Twin brother Esau - also Arab

Ishmael was the Son of Abraham and his concubine Hagar who was sent into the desert at the the request of Sarah and Ishmael became the father of the Arabs according also to Yahweh's promise [but the Arabs say Ishmael was the true Son of the Free woman and Father Abraham and Allah promised them the Land]


Genesis Chapter 16 & 21

Depends on whether you read the original Torah or the Genesis translated in KJV.

Ishmael WAS the son of Sarah and Abraham according to both, legally.

Now Hagar was no concubine either, that would have been illegal at the time.

None of the three religions really give a fuck about the mother though, as in religion, women are regarded as filthy beasts, "SONS of Abraham ARISE" ring a bell? Not "Sons of Sarah".

To complicate things further, incest and more bullshit followed.

What you are doing is confusing the Koran with the Books of Moses

However i AGREE - the old societies are mentally unbalanced as they are "patriarchal" and women are "property"

The Chaos restores the Goddes as the Wife of YHWH with the spirit and man

God formed the man out of the Dust of the earth and He breathed into {mother Earth} into the form, his Breath-Spirit and Man became a living soul

Now some say Micheal Created Man and Lucifer Woman - and Lucifer fell in love with his creation and gave her his Serpent

*cough*

and women and Mother Earth got Cursed - Wrongly - and the Fun began!

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: PC Surgeon
What some may not understand is that each religion is right. Those people from different races & customs interpreted God as they knew or thought of Him. I know it may not be easy to grasp. Allah is the same as the Christian God or the "trinity" as some believe. God is not exclusive but all inclusive.

No, what each and every religion is is WRONG, not right, all man made, all god of the gaps that have been backing up since the dawn of advanced science and eventually, we'll not have to have a god to explain ANYTHING.

But there will always be young earth creationists who will fight to keep their own children ignorant, stupid is as stupid does.

Though while in the US, faith is key to become president, in the UK, it's a personal thing and never mentioned by any aspiring politician, i mean, anyone who believes that a snake told a woman made from a rib that she should eat an apple and thus gain knowledge and be kicked out of Gods garden has to understand that he needs help by a gang of therapists.

Yeah, Barak, George and Hillary, i'm talking about you.

How do you know YOU are right?

perhaps it IS metaphysical ..

-you even wrongly believe and claim that Ishmael and Issac have the same mothers - they do NOT ! - they share only the same Father Abraham

Do you really want me to smack you around when it comes to evolution, AGAIN?

To the best of our knowledge is all we know, that is what i go by, not some made up shit with talking snakes and magical beings making magical shit like walking on water.

Either you give up your common sense for faith or you remain a thinking human being, there is nothing in between when it comes to this shit, if you believe that some being suddenly, after infinity thought it would be a great idea to create mankind, well, then that supreme being is a fucking retard.

Even according to the KJV of Genesis, Sarah was the legal mother of Ishmael, the bullshit story says he wasn't though, but this is the interesting part because the DIVIDE (and read carefully what i stated in my first post) started because of this, not because they had different mothers (both semite) but because ... well, we just need a reason to hate, that's why.

 

[Aimster]

Religion LOL

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: PC Surgeon
What some may not understand is that each religion is right. Those people from different races & customs interpreted God as they knew or thought of Him. I know it may not be easy to grasp. Allah is the same as the Christian God or the "trinity" as some believe. God is not exclusive but all inclusive.

No, what each and every religion is is WRONG, not right, all man made, all god of the gaps that have been backing up since the dawn of advanced science and eventually, we'll not have to have a god to explain ANYTHING.

But there will always be young earth creationists who will fight to keep their own children ignorant, stupid is as stupid does.

Though while in the US, faith is key to become president, in the UK, it's a personal thing and never mentioned by any aspiring politician, i mean, anyone who believes that a snake told a woman made from a rib that she should eat an apple and thus gain knowledge and be kicked out of Gods garden has to understand that he needs help by a gang of therapists.

Yeah, Barak, George and Hillary, i'm talking about you.

How do you know YOU are right?

perhaps it IS metaphysical ..

-you even wrongly believe and claim that Ishmael and Issac have the same mothers - they do NOT ! - they share only the same Father Abraham

Do you really want me to smack you around when it comes to evolution, AGAIN?

To the best of our knowledge is all we know, that is what i go by, not some made up shit with talking snakes and magical beings making magical shit like walking on water.

Either you give up your common sense for faith or you remain a thinking human being, there is nothing in between when it comes to this shit, if you believe that some being suddenly, after infinity thought it would be a great idea to create mankind, well, then that supreme being is a fucking retard.

Even according to the KJV of Genesis, Sarah was the legal mother of Ishmael, the bullshit story says he wasn't though, but this is the interesting part because the DIVIDE (and read carefully what i stated in my first post) started because of this, not because they had different mothers (both semite) but because ... well, we just need a reason to hate, that's why.

i eat evolutionists for breakfast,
i have access to older writings than you do.
--If you think "god suddenly created".
You are also a fool

strict believers in Spontaneous Generation are deluded fools with faith in their Pseudo Science worse than any false religion

and Sarah was the mother of Isaac - her ONLY son
- she was "legal guardian" of Ishmael as Hagar was HER slave

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Originally posted by: Perry404

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: apoppin

Ishmael had the same mum as Isaac

Wrong - same dad - Abraham - different moms - Sarah and Hagar

Isaac was the Son of Abraham and Sarah - according to the Bible; Isaac became father of Jacob [Israel] and his Twin brother Esau - also Arab

Ishmael was the Son of Abraham and his concubine Hagar who was sent into the desert at the the request of Sarah and Ishmael became the father of the Arabs according also to Yahweh's promise [but the Arabs say Ishmael was the true Son of the Free woman and Father Abraham and Allah promised them the Land]


Genesis Chapter 16 & 21

Depends on whether you read the original Torah or the Genesis translated in KJV.

Ishmael WAS the son of Sarah and Abraham according to both, legally.

Now Hagar was no concubine either, that would have been illegal at the time.

None of the three religions really give a fuck about the mother though, as in religion, women are regarded as filthy beasts, "SONS of Abraham ARISE" ring a bell? Not "Sons of Sarah".

To complicate things further, incest and more bullshit followed.

At least you're not angry at the world.

All i've ever seen, here, in Iraq, in Kosovo and so on is man made bullshit conflicts, most over "my gods dick is bigger than your gods dick".

Or in case of the Taliban "shoving your fist up a pre-teen girls twat and destroy her from the inside is what is gods will".

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: PC Surgeon
What some may not understand is that each religion is right. Those people from different races & customs interpreted God as they knew or thought of Him. I know it may not be easy to grasp. Allah is the same as the Christian God or the "trinity" as some believe. God is not exclusive but all inclusive.

No, what each and every religion is is WRONG, not right, all man made, all god of the gaps that have been backing up since the dawn of advanced science and eventually, we'll not have to have a god to explain ANYTHING.

But there will always be young earth creationists who will fight to keep their own children ignorant, stupid is as stupid does.

Though while in the US, faith is key to become president, in the UK, it's a personal thing and never mentioned by any aspiring politician, i mean, anyone who believes that a snake told a woman made from a rib that she should eat an apple and thus gain knowledge and be kicked out of Gods garden has to understand that he needs help by a gang of therapists.

Yeah, Barak, George and Hillary, i'm talking about you.

How do you know YOU are right?

perhaps it IS metaphysical ..

-you even wrongly believe and claim that Ishmael and Issac have the same mothers - they do NOT ! - they share only the same Father Abraham

Do you really want me to smack you around when it comes to evolution, AGAIN?

To the best of our knowledge is all we know, that is what i go by, not some made up shit with talking snakes and magical beings making magical shit like walking on water.

Either you give up your common sense for faith or you remain a thinking human being, there is nothing in between when it comes to this shit, if you believe that some being suddenly, after infinity thought it would be a great idea to create mankind, well, then that supreme being is a fucking retard.

Even according to the KJV of Genesis, Sarah was the legal mother of Ishmael, the bullshit story says he wasn't though, but this is the interesting part because the DIVIDE (and read carefully what i stated in my first post) started because of this, not because they had different mothers (both semite) but because ... well, we just need a reason to hate, that's why.

i eat evolutionists for breakfast

strict believers in Spontaneous Generation are deluded fools with faith in their Pseudo Science worse than any false religion

and Sarah was the mother of Isaac - her ONLY son
- she was "legal guardian" of Ishmael as Hagar was HER slave

Wait... i thought Hagar was the concubine?

You don't know your head from your arse and you never have.

And if it pleases you to deny evolution, go right ahead, no one will ever care but you and perhaps your poor children if you intend to raise them to become ignorant.

Shit like science and what we know doesn't really matter when you talk to a person like yourself, you just CHOOSE to be ignorant even while you KNOW better.

I'm going to Pakistan, i'll be back in a week or so.

 

[HeXploiT]

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: Perry404

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: apoppin

Ishmael had the same mum as Isaac

Wrong - same dad - Abraham - different moms - Sarah and Hagar

Isaac was the Son of Abraham and Sarah - according to the Bible; Isaac became father of Jacob [Israel] and his Twin brother Esau - also Arab

Ishmael was the Son of Abraham and his concubine Hagar who was sent into the desert at the the request of Sarah and Ishmael became the father of the Arabs according also to Yahweh's promise [but the Arabs say Ishmael was the true Son of the Free woman and Father Abraham and Allah promised them the Land]


Genesis Chapter 16 & 21

Depends on whether you read the original Torah or the Genesis translated in KJV.

Ishmael WAS the son of Sarah and Abraham according to both, legally.

Now Hagar was no concubine either, that would have been illegal at the time.

None of the three religions really give a fuck about the mother though, as in religion, women are regarded as filthy beasts, "SONS of Abraham ARISE" ring a bell? Not "Sons of Sarah".

To complicate things further, incest and more bullshit followed.

At least you're not angry at the world.

All i've ever seen, here, in Iraq, in Kosovo and so on is man made bullshit conflicts, most over "my gods dick is bigger than your gods dick".

Or in case of the Taliban "shoving your fist up a pre-teen girls twat and destroy her from the inside is what is gods will".

Do you honestly believe that if God wasn't used as the excuse we wouldn't kill each other over something else?
I wouldn't give the human race that much credit.
There are however good things in life.
You just have to look for them.