Did Russia Invade Ukraine? Is Putin a Dictator? We Asked Every Republican Member of Congress

nakedfrog

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Jasmine Crockett gave what I thought was a pretty good speech here. Mr. Jordan responds by utterly misrepresenting the First Amendment.
Not sure how one reads the article in OP without an Atlantic sub.

 

nakedfrog

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Thanks!
Most paywalled pages can be open in most browser reader mode
This has not been my experience, and it does not work for this article, it ends with this paragraph in reader mode for me:
I reached out to all 271 Republican members of the House and Senate to find out, asking each of them two straightforward questions: Did Russia invade Ukraine? And is Putin a dictator? So far, I have received 19 responses.
 

APU_Fusion

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Actually, the article and the world is wrong. Ukraine was invaded by Obama in 2014 and Antifa in 2022. Poor Putin has been defending the Ukrainians ever since. We all owe Putin a warm embrace for his selfless acts.

Sigh.
 
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FelixDeCat

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Does it need to end with Russia keeping all the land they stole and paying nothing to rebuild?
Who is going to force them out? We have tried as far as we can without nukes flying and it did not work.

Its an expensive, unwinnable conflict so long as Putin breathes air and maybe even afterwards.
 
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[DHT]Osiris

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Who is going to force them out? We have tried as far as we can without nukes flying and it did not work.

Its an expensive, unwinnable conflict to long as Putin breathes air and maybe even afterwards.
Every indication that Russia is reaching a collapse, either economically or militarily, if not both. Their hardware is no longer buffered by meat and they're starting to lose ground in places they've held for actual years, and that's discounting their own occupied land.

Does Ukraine get to keep the Russian land they hold as well?
 
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HomerJS

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Who is going to force them out? We have tried as far as we can without nukes flying and it did not work.

Its an expensive, unwinnable conflict so long as Putin breathes air and maybe even afterwards.
You say the war must end. I ask under what terms. I'm getting you don't know.

If you come home and find a stranger in your house. Fighting ensues (however you define it). Police come and say the fighting must stop. However, the intruder gets to keep your upstairs bedroom.

Fair settlement to stop the fighting?

How about this? Revoke the Presidential Executive orders 11,905 and 12,333? What do you think?
 

eelw

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You say the war must end. I ask under what terms. I'm getting you don't know.

If you come home and find a stranger in your house. Fighting ensues (however you define it). Police come and say the fighting must stop. However, the intruder gets to keep your upstairs bedroom.

Fair settlement to stop the fighting?
But doesn’t help when the orange monkey wants a sleepover with his dictator lover
 
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Who is going to force them out? We have tried as far as we can without nukes flying and it did not work.

Its an expensive, unwinnable conflict so long as Putin breathes air and maybe even afterwards.
It ends when Russia leaves the land they invaded it always has been that way. They chose to stay.
However I am grateful your thinking on these matters has evolved from a few years ago.
 

FelixDeCat

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It ends when Russia leaves the land they invaded it always has been that way. They chose to stay.
However I am grateful your thinking on these matters has evolved from a few years ago.
They will never leave. What are you going to do about it, big man? 👨
 

FelixDeCat

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You say the war must end. I ask under what terms. I'm getting you don't know.

If you come home and find a stranger in your house. Fighting ensues (however you define it). Police come and say the fighting must stop. However, the intruder gets to keep your upstairs bedroom.

Fair settlement to stop the fighting?

How about this? Revoke the Presidential Executive orders 11,905 and 12,333? What do you think?
Bad analogy but I'll play. This happens everyday in America. They are called squatters and you have to legally evict them or trick them into leaving.

Maybe one day decades from now they will be forced to leave but for now the world has had enough of this nonsense.
 

FelixDeCat

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But does the world stop China, North Korea and Iran from picking apart what’s left of Russia?
China could easily take the rural half of Russia. Except they will be turned into crispy critters if they do.
 

IronWing

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Bad analogy but I'll play. This happens everyday in America. They are called squatters and you have to legally evict them or trick them into leaving.

Maybe one day decades from now they will be forced to leave but for now the world has had enough of this nonsense.
When you say, ”the world” you really mean Trump, the traitor and Putin cum catcher, has been ordered by Putin to call for Ukraine’s surrender. How craven of you to support that position.
 
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HomerJS

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I believe @FelixDeCat is saying might makes right. If you are powerful enough, do what you want because the lesser country can do nothing to stop you. Fighting ends on the terms of the aggressor.

Felix, correct me where I'm wrong.
 
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Trump denies Trump said what Trump said.

"U.S. President Donald Trump said on Feb. 27 that he could not believe he had called Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky a "dictator."

Trump made the comment at a briefing with U.K. Prime Minister Keir Starmer at the White House.

"Did I say that? I can't believe I would say that," Trump responded when asked whether he still considers Zelensky a "dictator.""
 

Pens1566

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Trump denies Trump said what Trump said.

"U.S. President Donald Trump said on Feb. 27 that he could not believe he had called Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky a "dictator."

Trump made the comment at a briefing with U.K. Prime Minister Keir Starmer at the White House.

"Did I say that? I can't believe I would say that," Trump responded when asked whether he still considers Zelensky a "dictator.""

This is what happens when you don't have the "Hey, it's time we put Grandpa in Shady Acres" conversation when you should.
 

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Trump denies Trump said what Trump said.

"U.S. President Donald Trump said on Feb. 27 that he could not believe he had called Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky a "dictator."

Trump made the comment at a briefing with U.K. Prime Minister Keir Starmer at the White House.

"Did I say that? I can't believe I would say that," Trump responded when asked whether he still considers Zelensky a "dictator.""
Demented Oaf.
 
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