Did Obama leave the US with 'bad, broken tests and obsolete tests'?

[ShookKnight]

Thanks Obama.

Trump Called Out To His Face After Blaming Obama For 'Broken' Coronavirus Tests

The president claimed Obama left behind "bad, broken tests" for a virus that didn't exist yet.

www.huffpost.com

“The last administration left us nothing,” Trump said. “We started off with bad, broken tests and obsolete tests.”

But Obama left office in 2017 and COVID-19 didn’t exist until last year, as CNN’s Jim Acosta was quick to point out to the president.

“You say ‘broken tests,’” Acosta said. “It’s a new virus, so how could the tests be broken?”

Trump continues to amaze us all with how low he will go. Also, this is another example of how reality has no basis in the world of a conservative.

Sad.

 

[Jaskalas]

The United States never designed a system of mass testing like we expect / need in 2020.
What we are trying to achieve this year is something we've never tried before.

This would be like Kennedy complaining that Eisenhower left us with bad moon landers.

 

[dawp]

The United States never designed a system of mass testing like we expect / need in 2020.
What we are trying to achieve this year is something we've never tried before.

This would be like Kennedy complaining that Eisenhower left us with bad moon landers.

we could have been better prepared if trump had not killed the pandemic office.

 

[abj13]

The United States never designed a system of mass testing like we expect / need in 2020.
What we are trying to achieve this year is something we've never tried before.

This would be like Kennedy complaining that Eisenhower left us with bad moon landers.

This is simply false. The US has a massive infrastructure for medical diagnostic testing, this is why there was never an issue during the 2009 pH1N1 pandemic. This is why you don't hear there's a massive "shortage" of PCR machines or other diagnostic equipment beyond swabs. The issue has been the decisions of how to test for COVID-19. This is why South Korea lapped the US many times in the initial weeks after appearance of the virus in each of the countries. The primary issues have been:

1) Development of a ineffective test that was contaminated with coronavirus amplicons, leading to false positive test results and an overall test that simply could not be trusted.
2) The US decision to reject implementation an alternative testing kit from the WHO, costing further delays developing adequate testing in the US. Precious time was lost.
3) The strict criteria placed by the CDC of who could be tested, driven by the shortage of COVID-19 tests
4) Excessive red tape that prevented many labs across the US from developing their own in-house tests, including private commercial labs. This wasn't loosened until February 29th, but weeks had been lost, and it would take a few weeks for tests to be developed. Their diagnostic equipment sat idle, unable to run any assays until they were approved.
5) Lack of leadership. Do not forget who said "Anybody that wants a test can get a test. That’s what the bottom line is." This was stated despite problems 1-4 on March 7th, 2020.

 

[ShookKnight]

This is simply false. The US has a massive infrastructure for medical diagnostic testing, this is why there was never an issue during the 2009 pH1N1 pandemic.

Yes there was an issue; a black guy was in charge during that time. The 12,000 deaths in 2009 was the basis of calling for Obama's imprisonment.

Yet, Trump is on cue for hitting 100,000 and is deemed a 'very good job'.

It's no longer funny; Obama lives in Trump's head, for ever.

 

[pauldun170]

This is simply false. The US has a massive infrastructure for medical diagnostic testing, this is why there was never an issue during the 2009 pH1N1 pandemic. This is why you don't hear there's a massive "shortage" of PCR machines or other diagnostic equipment beyond swabs. The issue has been the decisions of how to test for COVID-19. This is why South Korea lapped the US many times in the initial weeks after appearance of the virus in each of the countries. The primary issues have been:

1) Development of a ineffective test that was contaminated with coronavirus amplicons, leading to false positive test results and an overall test that simply could not be trusted.
2) The US decision to reject implementation an alternative testing kit from the WHO, costing further delays developing adequate testing in the US. Precious time was lost.
3) The strict criteria placed by the CDC of who could be tested, driven by the shortage of COVID-19 tests
4) Excessive red tape that prevented many labs across the US from developing their own in-house tests, including private commercial labs. This wasn't loosened until February 29th, but weeks had been lost, and it would take a few weeks for tests to be developed. Their diagnostic equipment sat idle, unable to run any assays until they were approved.
5) Lack of leadership. Do not forget who said "Anybody that wants a test can get a test. That’s what the bottom line is." This was stated despite problems 1-4 on March 7th, 2020.

This is a quality post.
Straight forward with legit links.
No BS
No "watch this youtube video and you will be SHOCKED!"
No diversions or whataboutisms

I enjoyed

 

[sandorski]

You can't develop a Test for something that doesn't yet exist. The argument is stupid, but it's the age of Trump, so....

 

[Jaskalas]

This is simply false. The US has a massive infrastructure for medical diagnostic testing, this is why there was never an issue during the 2009 pH1N1 pandemic.

We tested people here for that?
Surely not millions?

 

[Gabe323]

When Trump first started at the briefings he would say the system Obama left in place was perfectly fine just not adequate for what we're dealing with now. Then as usual it slowly turned into the worst thing ever and maybe as bad as the military having no ammunition before he fixed that.

 

[Jaskalas]

When Trump first started at the briefings he would say the system Obama left in place was perfectly fine just not adequate for what we're dealing with now.

That is also my understanding of the issue. We have never had to suddenly test our entire population before.

 

[IJTSSG]

This is a quality post.
Straight forward with legit links.
No BS
No "watch this youtube video and you will be SHOCKED!"
No diversions or whataboutisms

I enjoyed

Except #2 is mostly if not completely wrong.

 

[pauldun170]

Except #2 is mostly if not completely wrong.

That is an example of a shitty post.
Makes statement with no details provided.

 

[Meghan54]

That is an example of a shitty post.
Makes statement with no details provided.

Amazing what a paid troll will post, isn't it? Devoid of truth, ignorant of facts... But when you're paid per letter per post......

 

[HomerJS]

You can't develop a Test for something that doesn't yet exist. The argument is stupid, but it's the age of Trump, so....

Like he said. However I'm sure Trumpers will side with their god on this one too.

 

[Vic]

Amazing how every single one of Trump's failures is Obama's fault.

 

[abj13]

We tested people here for that?
Surely not millions?

An estimated 60.6 million pH1N1 cases occurred in the US from 2009-2010. The initial case in the US was recognized on April 17th, 2009, and by May 1st, 2009, the CDC starting shipping kits for the capacity to test over a million patients. These testing numbers do not include commercial laboratory testing or in-hospital tests. Current estimates put around 35-40 million flu tests are completed each year in the US, or in this study, 4-5% of Americans were tested within a specific healthcare system in 2015 (which would estimate ~13-16 million tests that flu season).

 

[abj13]

Except #2 is mostly if not completely wrong.

If you don't like the WSJ, I highly suggest watching the Frontline episode on the testing: https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/film/coronavirus-pandemic/

To quote the CDC's response to the reporter: "They took the swiftest path and using another nation's test would have caused worst delays."

 

[cytg111]

In legal terms I think that first party, Barack Obama, has build up the right to one single solid punch to the face of second party, Donald J. Trump .

I forget the actual legalese involved IANAL, but surely there must be something along these lines in law somewhere.

 

[hal2kilo]

This is simply false. The US has a massive infrastructure for medical diagnostic testing, this is why there was never an issue during the 2009 pH1N1 pandemic. This is why you don't hear there's a massive "shortage" of PCR machines or other diagnostic equipment beyond swabs. The issue has been the decisions of how to test for COVID-19. This is why South Korea lapped the US many times in the initial weeks after appearance of the virus in each of the countries. The primary issues have been:

1) Development of a ineffective test that was contaminated with coronavirus amplicons, leading to false positive test results and an overall test that simply could not be trusted.
2) The US decision to reject implementation an alternative testing kit from the WHO, costing further delays developing adequate testing in the US. Precious time was lost.
3) The strict criteria placed by the CDC of who could be tested, driven by the shortage of COVID-19 tests
4) Excessive red tape that prevented many labs across the US from developing their own in-house tests, including private commercial labs. This wasn't loosened until February 29th, but weeks had been lost, and it would take a few weeks for tests to be developed. Their diagnostic equipment sat idle, unable to run any assays until they were approved.
5) Lack of leadership. Do not forget who said "Anybody that wants a test can get a test. That’s what the bottom line is." This was stated despite problems 1-4 on March 7th, 2020.

Should be like the campaign line against Bush Senior "No new taxes"! Turn that into Trump said "Anybody that wants a test can get a test"

 

[skyking]

An estimated 60.6 million pH1N1 cases occurred in the US from 2009-2010. The initial case in the US was recognized on April 17th, 2009, and by May 1st, 2009, the CDC starting shipping kits for the capacity to test over a million patients. These testing numbers do not include commercial laboratory testing or in-hospital tests. Current estimates put around 35-40 million flu tests are completed each year in the US, or in this study, 4-5% of Americans were tested within a specific healthcare system in 2015 (which would estimate ~13-16 million tests that flu season).

Thanks, I came in here and was going to the proper source and see you are all over it. I had been reading it up at CDC just last week about it, fresh on my mind.

 

[shortylickens]

Thanks Obama.

Trump Called Out To His Face After Blaming Obama For 'Broken' Coronavirus Tests

The president claimed Obama left behind "bad, broken tests" for a virus that didn't exist yet.

www.huffpost.com

Trump continues to amaze us all with how low he will go. Also, this is another example of how reality has no basis in the world of a conservative.

Sad.

it doesnt matter.
his rabid fanbase of zealots will believe him and thats all that matters.

 

[hal2kilo]

it doesnt matter.
his rabid fanbase of zealots will believe him and thats all that matters.

I blame it on the Hot Tube time machine.

 

[esquared]

Thanks Obama.

Trump Called Out To His Face After Blaming Obama For 'Broken' Coronavirus Tests

The president claimed Obama left behind "bad, broken tests" for a virus that didn't exist yet.

www.huffpost.com

Trump continues to amaze us all with how low he will go. Also, this is another example of how reality has no basis in the world of a conservative.

Sad.

And this is why the orange menace is an abject moron.

 

[SteveGrabowski]

Thanks Obama.

Trump Called Out To His Face After Blaming Obama For 'Broken' Coronavirus Tests

The president claimed Obama left behind "bad, broken tests" for a virus that didn't exist yet.

www.huffpost.com

Trump continues to amaze us all with how low he will go. Also, this is another example of how reality has no basis in the world of a conservative.

Sad.

I'm not amazed. I tried to tell everyone I knew this is who Trump really is back in 2016. I mean he's fucking Roy Cohn's protege. I remember taking my mom to go see the doctor not too long after that dark November night of 11-9 and he was a little scared Trump was going to snatch away millions of peoples' insurance but that maybe his campaign was just an act to appeal to his base. As soon as I told him the name Roy Cohn his expression changed like he had just seen a ghost, finally realizing the level of shitbird that was about to take over the nation.

 

[SteveGrabowski]

And this is why the orange menace is an abject moron.

He is not a moron, he's not stupid. Trump is a very smart and cunning conman who is probably the best we have ever seen at manipulating the media.