Did Obama falsify his selective service registration?

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IronWing

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Since Obama isn't really a citizen there is no reason he would have to register for the draft. Case closed.
 

DealMonkey

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Originally posted by: Atomic Playboy
Obama could make every single person in the United States a multi-millionaire and Winnar111 would still say he was the worst human being who ever lived. Obama could cure AIDS, develop engines capable of exceeding lightspeed and build a time machine, and I still don't think Winnar111 would have any kind words to say about him. Basically, Winnar111 is a partisan douchebag whose head is so far up his own ass he gets to enjoy every meal twice.

This. :thumbsup: Thank you.
 

JEDIYoda

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Originally posted by: blackangst1
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: blackangst1
Why is this NOT an issue? Are the facts listed above in question?

If you read that source that was linked you'd know the answer.:laugh:

Thats not the point. The supporting documents are.

There are NO supporting documents......pathetic morons
 

JEDIYoda

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The OP has left the building....hahahaaaaaa

If this was a legitimate news story it would be all over the mainstream presses.....
 

BoomerD

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As compared to George Bush's fraud?

You know the one...where he claimed to have actually served in a National Guard unit...
 

Fear No Evil

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Originally posted by: BoomerD
As compared to George Bush's fraud?

You know the one...where he claimed to have actually served in a National Guard unit...

This is going to be the legacy of Obama's Presidency... For every failure they will simply blame it on Bush. Hopefully he can write some more memoirs while in office. That should help.
 

IronWing

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Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Originally posted by: BoomerD
As compared to George Bush's fraud?

You know the one...where he claimed to have actually served in a National Guard unit...

This is going to be the legacy of Obama's Presidency... For every failure they will simply blame it on Bush. Hopefully he can write some more memoirs while in office. That should help.

Congratulations for writing Obama's legacy two months prior to the inauguration.
 

BoomerD

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Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Originally posted by: BoomerD
As compared to George Bush's fraud?

You know the one...where he claimed to have actually served in a National Guard unit...

This is going to be the legacy of Obama's Presidency... For every failure they will simply blame it on Bush. Hopefully he can write some more memoirs while in office. That should help.

Hell, why not? The bushbots STILL try to blame Clinton for everything...and he's been out of office for 8 years...

BTW, I think you meant:

Hopefully he can write while in office. That should help.
 

Skyclad1uhm1

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Obama is Winner2008, so deal with it.

Posting sources which manage to be less trustworthy than Al Qaida (and a lot more extremistic) isn't going to convince anyone with an IQ over 40. I can see how it convinced you though.
 

retrospooty

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Originally posted by: winnar111
http://www.debbieschlussel.com...1/exclusive_did_n.html

Did President-elect Barack Hussein Obama commit a federal crime in September of this year? Or did he never actually register and, instead, did friends of his in the Chicago federal records center, which maintains the official copy of his alleged Selective Service registration commit the crime for him?

It's either one or the other, as indicated by the release of Barack Obama's official Selective Service registration for the draft. A friend of mine, who is a retired federal agent, spent almost a year trying to obtain this document through a Freedom of Information Act request, and, after much stonewalling, finally received it and released it to me.

But the release of Obama's draft registration and an accompanying document, posted below, raises more questions than it answers. And it shows many signs of fraud, not to mention putting the lie to Obama's claim that he registered for the draft in June 1979, before it was required by law.

The official campaign for President may be over. But Barack Obama's Selective Service registration card and accompanying documents show that questions about him are not only NOT over, but if the signature on the document is in fact his, our next Commander-in-Chief may have committed a federal crime in 2008, well within the statute of limitations on the matter. If it is not his, then it's proof positive that our next Commander-in-Chief never registered with the Selective Service as required by law. By law, he was required to register and was legally able to do so until the age of 26.

But the Selective Service System registration ("SSS Form 1") and accompanying computer print-out ("SSS Print-out), below, released by the Selective Service show the following oddities and irregularities, all of which indicate the document was created in 2008 and backdated:

* Document Location Number Indicates Obama Selective Service Form was Created in 2008

First, there is the Document Location Number (DLN) on the form. In the upper right hand corner of the Selective Service form SSS Form 1, there is the standard Bates-stamped DLN, in this case "0897080632," which I've labeled as "A" on both the SSS Form and the computer printout document. On the form, it reflects a 2008 creation, but on the printout, an extra eight was added in front of the number to make it look like it is from 1980, when it was actually created in 2008.

As the retired federal agent notes:

Having worked for the Federal Government for several decades, I know that the standardization of DLNs have the first two digits of the DLN representing the year of issue. That would mean that this DLN was issued in 2008. The DLN on the computer screen printout is the exact same number, except an 8 has been added to make it look like it is from 1980 and give it a 1980 DLN number. And 1980 is the year Senator/President Elect Obama is said to have timely registered. So, why does the machine-stamped DLN reflect this year (2008) and the DLN in the database (which was manually input) reflect a "corrected" DLN year of 1980? Were all the DLNs issued in 1980 erroneously marked with a 2008 DLN year or does the Selective Service use a different DLN system then the rest of the Federal Government? Or was the SSS Form 1 actually processed in 2008 and not 1980?

It's quite a "coincidence" . . . that is, if you believe in coincidences, especially in this case.

Far more likely is that someone made up a fake Selective Service registration to cover Obama's lack of having done so, and that the person stamping the form forgot (or was unable to) change the year to "80" instead of the current "08". They either forgot to fake the DLN number or couldn't do so.

And guess where the Selective Service registrations are marked and recorded? Lucky for Obama, it's his native Chicago. From an article entitled, "Post Office Registration Process", on the Selective Service website:

When a young man reaches 18 he can go to any of the 35,000 post offices nationwide to register with Selective Service. There he completes a simple registration card and mails it to the Selective Service System. This begins a multi-step process which results in the man's registration.

Each week approximately 6,000 completed registration cards are sent to the Selective Service System's Data Management System (DMC) near Chicago, Ill. At the DMC these cards are grouped into manageable quantities. Each card is then microfilmed and stamped with a sequential document locator number. The processed microfilm is reviewed to account for all documents and to ensure that the film quality is within strict standards. After microfilming, the cards are keyed and then verified by a different data transcriber.

The Document Locator Number (DLN) is an automatic function (Selective Service record-keeping, specifically the DLN is described on pages 7-8 of this Federal Register document), with the first two digits comprising the year, and it was not changed to "08" in error. So if the form was filed and processed in 1980, how did it get a 2008 DLN?!

* Obama's Selective Service Registration Form is Apparently 1990 Form Altered to Appear Like 1980 Form

On the SSS Form 1, in the lower left hand corner is the form number (SSS Form 1) and the month and year version of the form, labeled as "B". On this particular Form 1, it clearly shows the month as "FEB" (February), and the year is either "80" or "90". The retired federal agent investigated further:

Magnification of the form both physically (with a 10x glass) or with different image software does not reflect a clear cut result of either a "80" or a "90".

But, checking the history of SSS Form 1 (see http://www.reginfo.gov/public/..._nbr=198002-3240-001#), it's apparent that in February 1980, the Selective Service agency withdrew a "Request for a new OMB control number" for SSS Form 1 (see also, here)--meaning the agency canceled its previous request for a new form, and one was never issued in "FEB 1980".

Since under the Paperwork Reduction Act of 1980, Pub. L. No. 96-511, 94 Stat. 2812 (Dec. 11, 1980), codified in part at Subchapter I of Chapter 35 of Title 44 a federal agency can not use a form not approved by OMB (Office of Management and Budget), it's nearly impossible for Senator/President-Elect Obama's SSS Form 1 to be dated "Feb 1980." And since that makes it almost certainly dated "Feb 1990," then how could Barack Obama sign it and the postal clerk stamp it almost ten (10) years before its issue?! Simply not possible.

The lower right hand corner reflects that the Obama SSS form 1 was approved by OMB with an approval number of 19??0002, labeled as "C". The double question marks (??) reflect digits that are not completely clear.

* Barack Obama's Signature is Dated After Postal Stamp Certifying His Signature

Barack H. Obama signed the SSS Form 1's "Today's date" as July 30, 1980, labeled "D". But the Postal Stamp reflects the PREVIOUS day's date of July 29, 1980, labeled "E". Yes, Obama could have mistakenly written the wrong date, but it is rare and much more unlikely for someone to put a future date than a past date. (Also note how Barry made such a "cute" peace sign with the "b" inside the "O" of his signature. Touching.)

* Postal Stamp is Incorrect, Discontinued in 1970

Then, there is the question as to whether the Postal Stamp is real. The "postmark" stamp--labeled "E"--is hard to read, but it is clear that at the bottom is "USPO" which stands typically for United States Post Office. However, current "postmark" validator, registry, or round dater stamps (item 570 per the Postal Operations Manual) shows "USPS" for United States Postal Service. The change from Post Office to Postal Service occurred on August 12, 1970, when President Nixon signed into law the most comprehensive postal legislation since the founding of the Republic--Public Law 91-375. The new Postal Service officially began operations on July 1, 1971.


Why was an old, obsolete postmark round dater stamp used almost ten (10) years after the fact to validate a legal document . . . that just happened to be Barack Obama's suspicious Selective Service registration form?

* Form Shows Barack Obama didn't have ID

The SSS Form 1 states "NO ID", labeled "F". Since that's the case, then how did the Hawaiian postal clerk know that the submitter was really Barack H. Obama, who may have been on summer break from attending Occidental College in California. How would they determine whether the registrant was truly registering and not a relative, friend, or other imposter?



The date thing is the most telling....funny how Obama's signature appears on the date after the postage stamp! How could Obama have signed the document on the 30th when it was mailed on the 29th?

By law, all males born in 1961 were to register for selective service in 1980. Hopefully someone picks up this investigation.

Yawn.... you never give up do you?

Get a life, the election is over, hte people have spoken and he will be your prez for the next 8 years. =)
 

jman19

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Originally posted by: Skyclad1uhm1
Obama is Winner2008, so deal with it.

Posting sources which manage to be less trustworthy than Al Qaida (and a lot more extremistic) isn't going to convince anyone with an IQ over 40. I can see how it convinced you though.

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
 

JSt0rm

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I think winnar and butterbutt have bolted. Hell PJ isnt even around. They have all probably sealed themselves in their bomb shelters with their canned foods and charcoal air filters waiting for the impending end of earth now that the dems are in charge :)
 

umbrella39

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Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Originally posted by: BoomerD
As compared to George Bush's fraud?

You know the one...where he claimed to have actually served in a National Guard unit...

This is going to be the legacy of Obama's Presidency... For every failure they will simply blame it on Bush. Hopefully he can write some more memoirs while in office. That should help.

Just like how every Bush failure was blamed on Clinton? How does your second helping taste? It's fun to see some of the folks posting here vilifying his job a the POTUS before he has even taken the oath. It helps us all distinguish the windows from the doors.
 

retrospooty

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Originally posted by: ohnoes
I'm pretty sure winnar bailed on the thread after I called him out.

Thats prettty much what he alwasys does... When you totally own him and invalidate his whole aregument, he simply stops responding. This way he doesnt have to admit he's wrong.
 

ohnoes

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Bumping due to new Loosar thread, and to remind everyone of how epic fail he is.


That is not a good enough reason to bump an old thread. The thread was over in November, let it go.

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LumbergTech

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Let this be a lesson to everyone..

When someone becomes President who you don't like: Do not latch on to every ridiculous claim just because you don't trust the person.