Did nVidia ever confirm they were working on a dual GM200 card?

[boed]

I was curious if this was just a rumor or confirmed. I remember reading about it months ago but never heard any more.

 

[Kenmitch]

That is a AMD card.

They really can no longer compete in the dual gpu market it looks like. Once crossfire caught up and somewhat surpassed SLI it seems it was no longer feasible.

 

[boed]

Thanks - I've corrected the picture. I haven't looked at crossfire or sli as a solution before but I thought crossfire had an issue with stutter.

 

[Kenmitch]

Thanks - I've corrected the picture. I haven't looked at crossfire or sli as a solution before but I thought crossfire had an issue with stutter.

For the most part it was fixed a couple of years ago on AMD's modern gpus. Sure SLI might have more support at times but when both are working it's usually crossfire that has the better experience....At least that's what I've read anyways.

It's about the time it looks like NVidia lost interest in dual gpu cards. Last couple of attempts pretty much got smacked down by AMD it looks like.

 

[boed]

Interesting. Unfortunately the X2 Fury has less than half the memory I would want - part of the reason for my next video card purchase - otherwise it would probably be good bang for the buck.

 

[Kenmitch]

Interesting. Unfortunately the X2 Fury has less than half the memory I would want - part of the reason for my next video card purchase - otherwise it would probably be good bang for the buck.

Personally I wouldn't get a dual gpu card unless it was the only option....As in only 1 PCI slot. Better to get 2 cards if the option is there....Much easier to sell 2 cards than 1 when the time comes.

 

[ShintaiDK]

Dual GPU cards are pretty much dead, that's why.

AMD even postpone their X2 and try and relaunch it as a VR card instead.

 

[Kenmitch]

Dual GPU cards are pretty much dead, that's why.

AMD even postpone their X2 and try and relaunch it as a VR card instead.

Dual gpu cards used to matter....It's when crossfire caught up or surpassed SLI that they no longer mattered. You remember don't you? FCAT vanished for the most part as it no longer showed an advantage for NVidia. Why use their tool to show AMD in a better light was the reason.

 

[bystander36]

I believe most the dual cards are a way for Nvidia or AMD to claim the fastest video card title. They are more about marketing than practicality.

 

[ShintaiDK]

Dual gpu cards used to matter....It's when crossfire caught up or surpassed SLI that they no longer mattered. You remember don't you? FCAT vanished for the most part as it no longer showed an advantage for NVidia. Why use their tool to show AMD in a better light was the reason.

No, I dont remember because I have always been against dual cards. So for me they are pointless cards. So that's for you and someone else to duke it out about.

I believe most the dual cards are a way for Nvidia or AMD to claim the fastest video card title. They are more about marketing than practicality.

Fully agree. Waste of R&D as I see it.

 

[boed]

Personally I wouldn't get a dual gpu card unless it was the only option....As in only 1 PCI slot. Better to get 2 cards if the option is there....Much easier to sell 2 cards than 1 when the time comes.

Thanks - I never sell my old cards, they just move to my older PC. Unfortunately I don't have the space for 2 cards. I have a raid controller and a 10gb nic in each system.

 

[Kenmitch]

No, I dont remember because I have always been against dual cards. So for me they are pointless cards. So that's for you and someone else to duke it out about.



Fully agree. Waste of R&D as I see it.

I'll let these guys duke it out.

As far as a waste of R&D goes in the end it's really subjective. Even 1080p looks to give the smack down to todays latest and greatest offerings.

I guess in the end we'll have to go back to the time will tell in the end way of thinking.

Dual gpu cards might not be the best option for you or me but for some it might be the only option to get the power they need in the space they have to put it.

 

[ShintaiDK]

While I dont have the financials at hand for both companies. I am willing to bet that both Crossfire and SLI have been nothing but terrible business for a ultra niche of users. In other words, it would have hurt all regular single GPU users and the world would have been better of without. That's my view :|

The main income in terms of SLI for NVidia was to sell SLI chipsets to the 99.x% users that only bought it on the case of "what if in the future".

 

[tweakboy]

No.

 

[Grubbernaught]

For some usage profiles eg. triple screen gaming and 4k, sli/crossfire is still highly desirable. And if the cost and performance isn't compromised (which it usually is) on single card solutions then I think they still have a seat at the table.

As for microstuttering, I think both camps are now in a position where it is a non issue. At least I can't detect it anyway.

 

[el etro]

They don't make sense as luxury products because the user experience is subpar comparing to a single GPU solution plus its value depreciates much faster with newer and newer card incoming.
GP100 is probably faster than a hypothetical dual GM200 card(especially if it this last is limited to 375W TDP cap), consume less power, leak less heat then make less noise while cooling...



I think the deathblow on dual-GPU cards is the increased difficulty to patch games to scale properly at these multi-GPU solutions.

 

[nenforcer]

The marketshare for dual GPU setups is so small that even AAA games like Batman : Arkham Knight and Star Wars : Battlefront don't properly support it or in the case of Batman : Arkham Knight doesn't properly scale well enough to consider the extra development effort required.

 

[Silverforce11]

A few AAA studios have stopped CF/SLI support, they said it's too much effort for so little usage.

Death of mutli-GPUs in DX12 for sure because its no longer about AMD/NV providing CF/SLI support, devs actually have to code it specifically for that. Very few studios give the PC port much effort as it is.

Think about that. Only a few PC-centric studios will bother. Such as DICE, Oxide, Blizzard and CDPR... not many I can think of on top of my head that really cares about PC gaming.

And it's really sad because 4K gaming you absolutely need multi-GPU if you don't want to run on medium settings.

 

[Dygaza]

A few AAA studios have stopped CF/SLI support, they said it's too much effort for so little usage.

Death of mutli-GPUs in DX12 for sure because its no longer about AMD/NV providing CF/SLI support, devs actually have to code it specifically for that. Very few studios give the PC port much effort as it is.

Think about that. Only a few PC-centric studios will bother. Such as DICE, Oxide, Blizzard and CDPR... not many I can think of on top of my head that really cares about PC gaming.

And it's really sad because 4K gaming you absolutely need multi-GPU if you don't want to run on medium settings.

I disagree with this completely. In past SLI/CF users have been in minority, which naturally has direct input on developers how eager they are to implement such features.

However, in DX12 things change dramatically. Amount of people who buy new dual gpu system (upgrade to 2 identical cards) will stay same. But everyone who upgrades their single card; or has iGPU in their systems, are potential new multigpu users. So from being nieche market segment, we're entering in huge market segment. Developers now should have huge interest in creating working multigpu applications than ever before.

I do hope AMD's OpenGPU will be helpfull in this. I would love to see some developer; or AMD publishing an source/example of a working multigpu solution.

Just my 2cents + VAT

 

[n0x1ous]

The marketshare for dual GPU setups is so small that even AAA games like Batman : Arkham Knight and Star Wars : Battlefront don't properly support it or in the case of Batman : Arkham Knight doesn't properly scale well enough to consider the extra development effort required.

uhhhhh battlefront supports it just fine.....

 

[ShintaiDK]

That argument sounds almost exactly like the old SLI/CF mobo reason with 1 GPU.

DX12 wont change anything. Single GPU is and will be king. And I doubt multi GPUs will live on much longer.

 

[ShintaiDK]

A few AAA studios have stopped CF/SLI support, they said it's too much effort for so little usage.

Death of mutli-GPUs in DX12 for sure because its no longer about AMD/NV providing CF/SLI support, devs actually have to code it.

+1 :thumbsup:

 

[Timmah!]

I was curious if this was just a rumor or confirmed. I remember reading about it months ago but never heard any more.

There has been a news on 28.9.2015 Nvidia introduced dual Maxwell to chosen group of people, presumably journalists, behind closed doors. Since then, nothing new, i paid attention.

The only exception, more or less "local" journalist known by a nick OBR, surely well known around these boards, recently wrote an article on local HW site concerning upcoming Nvidia and AMD stuff, where he said there is no dual Maxwell coming.
Which was actually in direct contrast with that info from September the same site posted (although clearly took from another source). Bottom line, journalism at its finest.

 

[ShintaiDK]

Tesla M60 is dual GM204.

 

[boed]

Is tesla a term I should know about? I keep reading up that the tesla GP100 is the rumored first card and the smaller GPU a few months later. Some are saying the GP100 is the titans and others are saying that the titan variation won't be released another 6 months after the GP100. I realize these are rumors but I feel like I should know what they are trying to say in comparison to the 970, 980, 980 ti and the 980 titan x if there is a comparison.