Did Newegg send me the wrong thing?!!

[EY2K]

[rant]dude calm down and get you sh!t straight. first off your 2100+ is supposed to run @ 1.73GHz NOT 1.83GHz. 2nd, the guys above are correct, go into your BIOS and set your FSB to 133 as your board has defaulted to 100. I also have an MSI KT4 board, and it did the same thing when I got it. It's not your chip. [/rant]

[edit]Also check your RAM timings. they may be too aggressive, hence the no POST when @ 133 FSB. [/edit]

 

[LeStEr]

I don't get why you havnt just taken out the chip to see if it is the right one?

 

[Apotherix]

Originally posted by: LeStEr
I don't get why you havnt just taken out the chip to see if it is the right one?

Okay, I checked, and it is the right one. Newegg gave me a number to call for customer service on the chip to get it reset. But I still can't imagine why setting the fsb to 133 made to CPU screw up. Must be a bios issue, or maybe it was my RAM. I'll check all the stuff and find out what the problem is. Thanks for all the help guys.

 

[Ketchup]

Is there a jumper on the board to select 100 or 133 on this board? If it does, you may have to set it to 133. The reason this would work is because it would probably set your AGP and PCI back to their default speed as well by adjusting the dividers. If you just raise it to 133 in the bios, it would raise your AGP and PCI speeds in sync and cause your board not to boot since they would be so far out of spec. Just an idea. I am not too familiar with this particular board, but you should be able to run 133 without too much headache.

 

[Apotherix]

I went to the MSI website, and in their KT4 thread they tell about this problem. The PCI divider has to be set to 1/4 in order to clock over 121 mhz FSB. So I went into the BIOS and looked where to set it, and couldn't find anywhere. ANyone with this Motherboard know how to do it? And while your at it, do you want to tell me what exactly the PCI divider is and what it does?

 

[mechBgon]

Originally posted by: Apotherix
I went to the MSI website, and in their KT4 thread they tell about this problem. The PCI divider has to be set to 1/4 in order to clock over 121 mhz FSB. So I went into the BIOS and looked where to set it, and couldn't find anywhere. ANyone with this Motherboard know how to do it? And while your at it, do you want to tell me what exactly the PCI divider is and what it does?

Sounds like it's time for mechBgon to download his 80th motherboard manual... please stand by

 

[Jmman]

I don't want you to take this the wrong way, but ROFL.... You will learn in time, young jedi.......

 

[mechBgon]

Ah, the wonders of broadband...

Ok, start on page 3-13 of your manual, which should show the Advanced Chipset Features header.

Highlight DRAM Timing Control and hit Enter. Now you see the screen shown on page 3-13. Set Configure SPD Timing By to By SPD. Set SDRAM Frequency to 266MHz. Leave the rest of the settings at default to start with.

Hit Escape to exit that area, and hit Escape again to get out to the main BIOS menu.

Now skip to page 3-28 of the manual, which shows Frequency/Voltage Control.

Spread Spectrum Disabled
CPU FSB Clock 133MHz
CPU Ratio Auto and I would start with the rest at Auto as well, except make the DDR Voltage 2.6-2.7 volts.

It looks like the PCI divider is handled automatically on this board, as was already mentioned... there is no place to adjust it. Hope this helps get you going, anyway

 

[mechBgon]

Incidentally, if the system still won't run at the proper 133MHz/DDR266 speeds, then my next question is what power supply you picked. Quality is important, not just wattage ratings, so hopefully it's not a cheesy brand with a fancy outward appearance?

 

[Apotherix]

I was bored, so I just took the case apart and started looking all over the MB to see if it had any jumpers anywhere to set to 133. Just as I was about to close it back up in frustration, I saw a table like this printed under the chipset heatsink:

CPU Freq. SW1 SW2
100 2-3 1-2
133 1-2 1-2
166 1-2 2-3

(bold in one column, italics in another, etc.)

What does this mean exactly? It looks as though you have to set a "SW1" and "SW2" in order to clock the CPU to those FSB speeds. How do you do this? And what the heck are SW1 and SW2?

 

[mechBgon]

The manual doesn't show any SW1 or SW2, nor do I see any DIPs in photos of the board, so my guess is that they forgot to take this item out of the board's markings before going to production with it. Meaning, the silkscreened markings refer to something this board doesn't have.

 

[mboy]

Originally posted by: Apotherix

Originally posted by: LeStEr
I don't get why you havnt just taken out the chip to see if it is the right one?

Okay, I checked, and it is the right one. Newegg gave me a number to call for customer service on the chip to get it reset. But I still can't imagine why setting the fsb to 133 made to CPU screw up. Must be a bios issue, or maybe it was my RAM. I'll check all the stuff and find out what the problem is. Thanks for all the help guys.

It is a newbie user issue (no offense)

 

[Apotherix]

Originally posted by: mboy

Originally posted by: Apotherix

Originally posted by: LeStEr
I don't get why you havnt just taken out the chip to see if it is the right one?

Okay, I checked, and it is the right one. Newegg gave me a number to call for customer service on the chip to get it reset. But I still can't imagine why setting the fsb to 133 made to CPU screw up. Must be a bios issue, or maybe it was my RAM. I'll check all the stuff and find out what the problem is. Thanks for all the help guys.

It is a newbie user issue (no offense)

Yeah, I know, I'm not sacred to admit it... so how do you fix it?

 

[Apotherix]

Originally posted by: mechBgon
Ah, the wonders of broadband...

Ok, start on page 3-13 of your manual, which should show the Advanced Chipset Features header.

Highlight DRAM Timing Control and hit Enter. Now you see the screen shown on page 3-13. Set Configure SPD Timing By to By SPD. Set SDRAM Frequency to 266MHz. Leave the rest of the settings at default to start with.

Hit Escape to exit that area, and hit Escape again to get out to the main BIOS menu.

Now skip to page 3-28 of the manual, which shows Frequency/Voltage Control.

Spread Spectrum Disabled
CPU FSB Clock 133MHz
CPU Ratio Auto and I would start with the rest at Auto as well, except make the DDR Voltage 2.6-2.7 volts.

It looks like the PCI divider is handled automatically on this board, as was already mentioned... there is no place to adjust it. Hope this helps get you going, anyway

So I can't run my RAM at 333 mhz? I have to underclock it? What about when I set the FSB to 166, I can run it full then, right?

 

[ChampionAtTufshop]

Originally posted by: Apotherix

Originally posted by: mechBgon
Ah, the wonders of broadband...

Ok, start on page 3-13 of your manual, which should show the Advanced Chipset Features header.

Highlight DRAM Timing Control and hit Enter. Now you see the screen shown on page 3-13. Set Configure SPD Timing By to By SPD. Set SDRAM Frequency to 266MHz. Leave the rest of the settings at default to start with.

Hit Escape to exit that area, and hit Escape again to get out to the main BIOS menu.

Now skip to page 3-28 of the manual, which shows Frequency/Voltage Control.

Spread Spectrum Disabled
CPU FSB Clock 133MHz
CPU Ratio Auto and I would start with the rest at Auto as well, except make the DDR Voltage 2.6-2.7 volts.

It looks like the PCI divider is handled automatically on this board, as was already mentioned... there is no place to adjust it. Hope this helps get you going, anyway

So I can't run my RAM at 333 mhz? I have to underclock it? What about when I set the FSB to 166, I can run it full then, right?

maybe you get the cpu running at 133mhz before 166
did you update bios to newest one?

as for those switches, maybe they are there but undocumented in manula (it has happend before on asus a7v333)
look around for a set of jumpers on the board

 

[Apotherix]

I found the problem! Thanks for all the help guys.

Here it was: when I first entered the BIOS right after I first turned my machine on, I had set the RAM Freq. to 333, cause that's what I had right? See, I didn't know that the RAM had anything to do with the FSB of the CPU, and that they had to correlate. Call me stupid, but I am new at this. So I talked to one of my friends that had the same problem, and I got the idea just to go back to square one, setting everything to Auto, and lo and behold, I had my 2100+ running at 2.3 Ghz in no time, with no problem.

Now I've got it at Vcore 1.7v, 2172 Mhz, running at 38 C under load. Not bad, heh?

You guys are awesome, thanks for all the help.

 

[mboy]

now the fun begins, see if u can get her to 200 fsb with an 11 or 11.5 multiplier

 

[Ketchup]

Doubtfull. MSI and overclocking don't mix too well.