I saw a Spanish man on TV named "Jesus." The idiot newscaster pronounced it "hay-zoose."
edit: spelling
edit: spelling
Hay-zoose!! bwuahahaha. I seriously can't stop laughing. HAY, ZOOSE! Get over here!
I can't take it...
I want to know what happened to his identical twin. You know, the one who was born first! You never hear about him, do you? I hear Mary and Joe shuffeled him of to Aunt Gertrude's farm where he was treated like crap and slept with the swine. He died young when he tripped over a pitchfork and fell into a cactus patch. Took him 3 days to die and 2 more before Gertie and Josie noticed he was missing. He stunk something fierce so Josie just let the hogs out to scarf him up. Pigs like rotten flesh.:Q
Check her for journalistic approach.
So the Word became human and lived here on earth among us. He was full of unfailing love and faithfulness. And we have seen his glory, the glory of the only Son of the Father. John 1:14
So the Word became human and lived here on earth among us. He was full of unfailing love and faithfulness. And we have seen his glory, the glory of the only Son of the Father. John 1:14
If fifty million people say a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing.
............Anatole France
Just because a billion people believe DOES NOT mean that it's real/true/etc. From my readings, there is no evidence that puts a Jesus living during the time he supposedly lived. The first "authentic" Jesus writings and records appeared many years after his supposed crucifixion. Most accounts of a Jesus guy were by people that lived AFTER the time of Jesus.
The Christian church is notorious throughout history for being a band of ruthless, lying thugs. Why should we believe this fairy tale?
.....so I guess my answer is no....
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It is a fact Jesus Christ the man existed. It is not just the bible that references him, but also other historical documents.
It is a matter of faith that Jesus Christ the Son of God existed. Although there is a lot of evidence that his miracles happened, we can't really prove he is God's son any more than scientists can prove abiogenesis.
It is a matter of faith that Jesus Christ the Son of God existed. Although there is a lot of evidence that his miracles happened, we can't really prove he is God's son any more than scientists can prove abiogenesis.
and billions of other people have believed in islam and Hinduism. does that make them right cuz there is alot of them?
Good question. I've always said that if I were to convert to Christianity again, I would have to resolve matters of history. I would have to verify that Jesus actually existed, for one.
I remember some supposed archaeology that hinted that the tomb of Christ was uncovered. I don't know if it was verified or not. The burial of Christ is kind of contradictory with accounts given in the Bible by John and Matthew.
I remember some supposed archaeology that hinted that the tomb of Christ was uncovered. I don't know if it was verified or not. The burial of Christ is kind of contradictory with accounts given in the Bible by John and Matthew.
Ugh! Baboon Guy, that link is unforgivable. Of all links I've ever seen on the 'net, that takes the cake. Ugh! Despicable and disgusting!!!! :disgust:
"A thing is not necessarily true because a man dies for it."
-- Oscar Wilde
Hee, always liked that quote. A little better than Dedpuhl's.
As for the archaeological records, I believe there were some that did back up the crucifixion of a man from Nazareth by the name of Jesus. At least I think so. I've heard. Once or twice. Can you find me a link pointing me to the possessors of those records? Preferably with a link to a section describing the records themselves.
A history prof told me about an interesting book, the title of which eluded him at the time, that chronicles an expreiment done by historical researchers. In it, they prove using accepted historical analysis techniques that Napoleon Bonaparte didn't exist. Supposed to be a very cool read.
/leans over, steals some of bootymac's chips. "BBQ. How appropiate."
-- Jack
Many end-of-the-world dates have been forecast. None have come true yet, to our knowledge.
-- B.A. Robinson
The only shred of hope they had of linking Jesus to the time was that box with the writing on it (James, brother of Jesus or something)....turns out that was a fraud....
Yeah, heard about that. Not overly surprising. Heck, that was something that I've always wondered. If Jesus was a carpenter, where was the furniture he built? After his death and all, you think some follows would have tried tracking that stuff down. After all, I doubt that people back then were that different than we are now, trying to get relics of those they worshipped.
/snags some of bootymac's beer as well. Need something to wash down those chips.
-- Jack
Christ died for your sins, so you'd better make your sins worth his sacrifice.
-- Anon
Stop being silly, MichaelD! 
I don't think that subject is relevant at the moment.
"St. Peter's remains have been found in Rome) and ... did I mention a billion christians. Yes, a man named Jesus did exist approximately 2,000 years ago. Roman records from the period back up the existance of Pontius Pilate in Judea. The question as to whether he was the son of God is based upon faith."
St. Peter's existence and Pontius Pilate's existence isn't evidence that Jesus existed, even by inductive reasoning. Look at Plato and Socrates, for instance. Well, in spite of Plato's account of Socrates' experience and existence, it's still questioned whether or not Socrates was a figment of his imagination, the trial real or just his creativity. There are still missing puzzles in the case of Jesus. I came close to accepting that Jesus existed when I heard the supposed archaeology uncovered. Nevertheless, the archaeologists haven't since verified that it was indeed Jesus' tomb. If anyone has an update, please let me know.
I don't think that subject is relevant at the moment. "St. Peter's remains have been found in Rome) and ... did I mention a billion christians. Yes, a man named Jesus did exist approximately 2,000 years ago. Roman records from the period back up the existance of Pontius Pilate in Judea. The question as to whether he was the son of God is based upon faith."
St. Peter's existence and Pontius Pilate's existence isn't evidence that Jesus existed, even by inductive reasoning. Look at Plato and Socrates, for instance. Well, in spite of Plato's account of Socrates' experience and existence, it's still questioned whether or not Socrates was a figment of his imagination, the trial real or just his creativity. There are still missing puzzles in the case of Jesus. I came close to accepting that Jesus existed when I heard the supposed archaeology uncovered. Nevertheless, the archaeologists haven't since verified that it was indeed Jesus' tomb. If anyone has an update, please let me know.
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