Did I just trash my computer with only opening the window?! Please Help Update: [PC has power again, but just doesn't POST]

[ndee]

Hey there,
now that's weird. I opened my window, and it's NOT near to my computer. The Computer ran now for about 10 hours, and it was getting a little bit cold outside. OK, I was in ICQ, but than, the computer just crashed, and never booted again. When it boots, the light for the Harddrive is on, and the light for my CD Burner, but not for my DVD-Rom. So what shall I do? Could it be that the temperature change was just too fast? Cuz outside, it's really cold. I hope not. What could I do to fix it?

My CPU Temp was 44° and my mobo temp was 39°, according to my K7T Pro.

Thanx for any Input

[Edit]I try to clear the BIOS, and forgot to put the jumper back on and turned it on, now, it doesn't get any power anymore, and I'm really confused and would appreciate your help[/Edit]

 

[ndee]

Bump before sleep............

 

[ndee]

Bump cuz I can't sleep.....

 

[divinemartyr]

Temperature change should not have anything to do with this. If anything, cold temperatures will help your computer, unless you went outside and placed it in snow, that should not be your problem. Sounds like you have a component which died on you, possibly your mobo.

divinemartyr

 

[Pearman]

How old is your comp?

 

[Eug]

I think it caught a virus.

 

[cvlegion]

First, opening window should not effect your computer unless of course there was a lot of moisture. However, I am not sure that this is the scenario you were working with before you cleared your CMOS. However, it seems that the components were turning on but the computer wouldn't start. If I were to venture a guess (this is more than a guess though since this has happened to me once before, however I throwing this out to you) that your RAM or motherboard may have died.

Examine this situation:
If you press power and it starts up fans and starts up the HDD and such. There is a video signal however nothing prints and it is obvious that the computer is not POSTing.

This is the RAM if the above scenario is true. Here is why. Power supply powers motherboard and components including the video card and the CMOS. The CMOS loads the BIOS into memory. If it is the memory, then it will fault here because the RAM is not functioning so then your computer would hang at this point.

If there is no video signal whatsoever, then I would venture to say it is the motherboard.

However, if you are not completely sure that either of these cases are the reason then I would take it into a computer shop.

However, if you could give a much more detailed account of what was happening before you cleared the CMOS, but exclude the opening the window, because I would really doubt that this had anything to do with it.

 

[johneetrash]

maybe an airborn virus from opening the window

 

[Dark4ng3l]

ROFL

 

[ndee]

Thanx for the replies.

This mobo is about 4 Months old. You really think the mobo died? *sniff* Cuz now, just NOTHING starts, it doesn't post. It just stands there. Damn, and I thought MSI was reliable. Well yes everyone may have bad luck.

How can I test if my mobo REALLY died, is there a way to test it 100%? Cuz I don't want to uninstall the Mobo from my other computer, if there is an easier way. You think I should just RMA this Mobo?

This is really a sad day........ don't laugh

[Edit]Well for the detailed stuff. I just was in ICQ, chatting and then, it just hang. OK, I booted again, and couldn't start ICQ anymore cuz there was this "Something made the application shutdown" stuff. Then, I rebooted again, and the computer just hanged at the very beginning. The HDD, my CD-Burner were getting power cuz the LEDs were on. The Fan also worked. Then I try to clear the CMOS, which I think I made kinda wrong, cuz I didn't place the Jumper right on, but could this really make a computer prevent it from POSTing? And now, really NOTHING gets even Power. And NO, I didn't get a virus[/Edit]

Further replies are appreciated.

 

[Eug]

<< And NO, I didn't get a virus >>

That was a joke LOL But seriously, make sure everything is seated correctly etc before you pronounce it dead.

 

[Hanpan]

you are supossed to short the bios with everythign turned off. IF you booted the computed while shorting the bios you may have damaged something.

 

[Bleep]

Did you try and clear the CMOS while the machine was powered up?
The machine should be powered down and the power supply leads to the motherboard disconnected before resetting the CMOS.
Bleep

 

[Mem]

ndee,
Take the PC base unit down to a repair shop for diagnostic checkup it sounds to me like something as died hardware wise inside probably the motherboard.No point sending the motherboard back unless you know for 100% sure it`s this that`s faulty.

 

[ndee]

Thanx for the replies again.

But how big is the chance that the mobo is dead? I mean the computer just turned off while I was chatting, so the chance is very high that the mobo is dead, right?

The power connector was connected while I cleared the CMOS, but I powered the computer up, while the jumper was on &quot;CMOS Clear&quot;. Stupid me. Can it really be damaged? It was just to late in the evening.

Eug:
How shall I seat everything correctly, when it justed turned off? This time, I REALLY change anything.

Damn, this pi**es me off. Sorry for my rude language.

 

[Vinny N]

If your system has a cold solder joint (possibly on the video card?), then opening the window, caused it to take effect and crash the system and stop it from posting. If this is the case, you could try closing the window, powering on your system and letting it sit there to warm up and reexpand so that the cold solder joint &quot;disappears&quot; After a good 30 minutes or so it should be warmed up enough, then hit reset and see if it posts.

 

[ndee]

Nope. I waited the whole night, tried it in the mornings to turn it on. No go.

 

[Vinny N]

Waited all night, with the system power on so it would be warming up? Or waited with it on?
You'd have to wait with it on, so it could warm up, to test for a cold solder joint.

 

[ndee]

Well, it just doesn't react. You know what I mean? Nothing, nada, no power on, no power on the motherboard. On the MSI Board, there are 4 Diagnostics LEDs, even THEY don't light, so it means, NO POWER on the motherboard.

 

[beer]

That's more than likely a mobo problem, or maybe one of the power supply leads going to the mobo failed.

 

[ndee]

So either the Power Supply is broken or the mobo, right? I could try another PSU tonight. I actually HOPE it's NOT the Mobo, cuz if I have to tear everything out.... that kinda ****** me off

 

[Redwingsguy]

Was it raining or hailing when you opened the window?

 

[ndee]

No, no rain, just pretty cold, about the Zeros I guess. As I said, it's not near the window, about 2 meters, and next to my computer, there's a desk, so there's no chance that something like water or snow hit my computer. It's just pretty weird. My personal guess, that it has something to do with the kinda fast temperatur change, and worst of all, I think I damaged somehow the BIOS while booting with the jumper on &quot;CMOS Clear&quot;. Stupid me.

 

[ndee]

OK, call me stupid. I've put the jumper for the CMOS back on the System Fan connector....., told ya was late in the night But no, it has power but it just doesn't boot. The 4 MSI Diag-LEDs are red, nothing more. What could it be?

Thanx for any help

 

[ndee]

bump before sleep....