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Did Bush ever Veto a Republican spending bill while in office?
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MovingTarget
Diamond Member
Unless you count the SCHIP expansion or federal stem cell research funding (not sure if this was just an EO or an actual bill), then no. His vetos were few and far between, especially for the first few years.
blackangst1
Lifer
Did Clinton ever veto a Democratic spending bill?
Did Bush Sr ever veto a GOP spending bill?
Did Reagan ever veto a GOP spending bill?
etc
WTF does it matter?
Did Bush Sr ever veto a GOP spending bill?
Did Reagan ever veto a GOP spending bill?
etc
WTF does it matter?
blackangst1
Lifer
Oh I see what he did there
How would Bush Sr. or Reagan ever veto GOP spending bills? The Democrats controlled both chambers for most of both presidencies, and they always controlled the House, where spending bills originate. There were literally zero GOP bills to veto. Clinton only had 2 years of a Democratic majority, so even his choices were limited.
I think everyone here knows that the Republicans' sudden dose of religion on fiscal conservatism is a political move. There's absolutely nothing to show that the Republicans gave even the slightest shit about fiscal conservatism when in a position to dictate legislation any time in even remotely recent history. Reagan made huge deficits, Bush Sr. had large deficits, Bush Jr. had colossal deficits (and hell in his case Cheney came out and said they didn't care about them). The only time that could even be argued was the Republican congress during the Clinton years, but if you look closely at that era the budget gap was not closed through legislation, it was closed through inaction and gridlock.
Republicans are not fiscal conservatives, neither are Democrats. This is because fiscal conservatism is an ideology in America that lots of people pay lip service to, but very few people outside of internet forums actually support. If people cared about fiscal conservatism, Ron Paul would be the president, but they don't and he isn't. So while people here are obviously free to speak out for it as much as they want, it simply isn't a very popular ideology and I wouldn't expect that to change any time soon.
Did he veto any Democrat spending bills? He set a record for only having 12 vetos over his the entire 8 years in office. In reality, there were only 5 REAL vetos. Two were stem-cell bills (which he made clear from the start he was against), one was a Dept of health and services bill that was trying to spend too much on programs that should be wiped, a child healthcare bill that didn't focus on children who dont already have health insurance, and one Intel bill.
The others were an Iraq spending bill vetoed for having timeline which was later passed without it, a defense spending bill referred to Armed Services Committee because some parts had a negative impact on Iraq reconstruction, and 4 others that were overturned anyway.
The others were an Iraq spending bill vetoed for having timeline which was later passed without it, a defense spending bill referred to Armed Services Committee because some parts had a negative impact on Iraq reconstruction, and 4 others that were overturned anyway.
It's hard to overlook BHO's because it's supposed to be a Stimulus and not a Spending bill. There is a big difference and the bill that just got passed is 60% spending without stimulating. So it's generally should have been included into the regular budget and not an emergency stimulus bill. But libs don't like that because it will be really scrutinized. Remember what White House Chief Of Staff Emmanuel said about the current crisis? It's an opportunity to do what we have been wanting to do for the longest time!
Will there be another stimulus package? Oh yes! It's the best way to make "sausage" and get it approved lightning speed! The people have spoken and they're getting what they wanted, debt up to their asses and up to their great grandchildren's asses!
I counted only those allocated for taxes (282B) and some of the infrastructure and modernization (33B) which is roughly 40% of the entire bill. The rest is just spending which should belong to the national budget bill. Stimulating the economy means generating jobs for the next 12-18 months. Otherwise, it's just a regular spending bill which can be included in the annual national budget where they get real scrutiny.
If you look at it that way, then at the end of the year it's just money we would have spent anyway. I think there's more to it than things that would just appear in a regular budget.
Whether the projects are worthy or not is of course a whole different debate and everyone has already come down on a side on that issue depending on what letter they prefer by their name.
Double Trouble
Elite Member
Sadly I have to agree with eskimospy that neither the democrats nor republicans have shown themselves to be in any way interested in fiscal conservatism. That's one of the major reasons that as a conservative I am disappointed with the republican party over the past 8 years. They had a chance to make some real changes (especially by enlisting the help of some sane ....errrr.... blue dog democrats).
Anyway, how many bills Bush vetoed is irrelevant -- he didn't have to veto stuff because his administration worked with the congress to make sure they would only pass bills that he would sign. No point in passing legislation that would get vetoed.
Anyway, how many bills Bush vetoed is irrelevant -- he didn't have to veto stuff because his administration worked with the congress to make sure they would only pass bills that he would sign. No point in passing legislation that would get vetoed.
I don't think so. I don't think anyone has ever accused Bush of being a fiscal conservative, although we may find him to be one next to Obama if his first 60 days are any indication.
Next question...did you ever question the dems spending bills for the last 2 years that he signed?
Follow up question...did the dems in the senate ever try to filibuster a spending bill in the previous six years?
Yes, I know it's much easier to be a partisan, isn't it.
Next question...did you ever question the dems spending bills for the last 2 years that he signed?
Follow up question...did the dems in the senate ever try to filibuster a spending bill in the previous six years?
Yes, I know it's much easier to be a partisan, isn't it.
Doc Savage Fan
Lifer
Bush was not a fiscal conservative...this is really old news. It appears that OP just wants to blame Republicans for past spending while turning a blind eye to current spending by Dems. I doubt that he cares one iota about fiscal discipline when Dems rule the roost. The BS is so transparent.
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