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Did anyone see Bill Maher tonight?

Orsorum

Lifer
An excellent discussion regarding a number of issues, the war in Iraq, Bush's nomination of Meiers for the USSC, religion v. rational thought. I was entertained by it, and I'm not normally by Bill Maher or his show.

And, as I'm rewatching it, Ben Affleck's explanation of the recent Florida gun issue was spot-on.
 
Originally posted by: ntdz
Sounds so fantastically liberal. Yuck.

1) Maher got schooled on a few issues, notably religion and the Florida gun law (don't remember the name of it).
2) There was an actual open dialogue regarding important issues. That, in itself, is noteworthy.
 
Originally posted by: Orsorum
Originally posted by: ntdz
Sounds so fantastically liberal. Yuck.

1) Maher got schooled on a few issues, notably religion and the Florida gun law (don't remember the name of it).
2) There was an actual open dialogue regarding important issues. That, in itself, is noteworthy.

Nice 🙂
 
Originally posted by: Orsorum
And, as I'm rewatching it, Ben Affleck's explanation of the recent Florida gun issue was spot-on.

Yeah, I always cue in to Hollywood and big stars like Affleck for my political commentary as well. :disgust:
 
Originally posted by: Pabster
Originally posted by: Orsorum
And, as I'm rewatching it, Ben Affleck's explanation of the recent Florida gun issue was spot-on.

Yeah, I always cue in to Hollywood and big stars like Affleck for my political commentary as well. :disgust:


Just because he's a "big star" doesn't mean he's wrong. Grow a brain and a pair of ears and you'll go far...
 
Originally posted by: joshw10
Wasn't Coulter on? That should be enough to please ntdz
Not really. She was extremely critical of Bush last night ("You don't screw your base."). So was Andrew Sullivan, another person who'd formerly been an ardent, ntdz-style Bush parrot. Not any more. He is extremely angry with Bush, saying he will "never trust him again."

Two by two, the eyes are opening.
 
Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Originally posted by: joshw10
Wasn't Coulter on? That should be enough to please ntdz
Not really. She was extremely critical of Bush last night ("You don't screw your base."). So was Andrew Sullivan, another person who'd formerly been an ardent, ntdz-style Bush parrot. Not any more. He is extremely angry with Bush, saying he will "never trust him again."

Two by two, the eyes are opening.

This is why moderates cant win elections in this country. Bush apparantly starts to go closer to center, the right gets pissed off, the left still isnt going to approve, and only the fringes vote in primaries.
 
Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Originally posted by: joshw10
Wasn't Coulter on? That should be enough to please ntdz
Not really. She was extremely critical of Bush last night ("You don't screw your base."). So was Andrew Sullivan, another person who'd formerly been an ardent, ntdz-style Bush parrot. Not any more. He is extremely angry with Bush, saying he will "never trust him again."

Two by two, the eyes are opening.

It's interesting to see the eyes begin to open......."Too little Too LATE!!!!!! @sshats :disgust:

(I'm talking about Anne and Andrew, of course)
 
Originally posted by: joshw10
Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Originally posted by: joshw10
Wasn't Coulter on? That should be enough to please ntdz
Not really. She was extremely critical of Bush last night ("You don't screw your base."). So was Andrew Sullivan, another person who'd formerly been an ardent, ntdz-style Bush parrot. Not any more. He is extremely angry with Bush, saying he will "never trust him again."

Two by two, the eyes are opening.

This is why moderates cant win elections in this country. Bush apparantly starts to go closer to center, the right gets pissed off, the left still isnt going to approve, and only the fringes vote in primaries.
Finger's comment explains why the left isn't getting much of anywhere either. He doesn't consider the possibility that maybe it's the left who are just opening their eyes to see that the right are not necessarily in a dazed lockstep with the Bush admin. The right are no more brain dead parrots than the left are brain dead anti-parrots. Until they realize this the left will continue to fail and the moderates, as usual, will continue to be stuck in the middle and have to suffer the ignorant mischaracterizations from both sides.
 
Originally posted by: Pabster
Originally posted by: Orsorum
And, as I'm rewatching it, Ben Affleck's explanation of the recent Florida gun issue was spot-on.

Yeah, I always cue in to Hollywood and big stars like Affleck for my political commentary as well. :disgust:

I rather listen to an actor like Ben Affleck than a chimp posing as a president.
 
Originally posted by: shurato
Originally posted by: Pabster
Originally posted by: Orsorum
And, as I'm rewatching it, Ben Affleck's explanation of the recent Florida gun issue was spot-on.

Yeah, I always cue in to Hollywood and big stars like Affleck for my political commentary as well. :disgust:

I rather listen to an actor like Ben Affleck than a chimp posing as a president.
Well at least if we make a mistake and buy a ticket to one of Affleck's movies we can always walk o9ut. Unfortunately the American Public is paying for their mistake voting the Dub in office or nominating an asshole like Kerry to run against the highly incompetent Dub.
 
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: shurato
Originally posted by: Pabster
Originally posted by: Orsorum
And, as I'm rewatching it, Ben Affleck's explanation of the recent Florida gun issue was spot-on.

Yeah, I always cue in to Hollywood and big stars like Affleck for my political commentary as well. :disgust:

I rather listen to an actor like Ben Affleck than a chimp posing as a president.
Well at least if we make a mistake and buy a ticket to one of Affleck's movies we can always walk o9ut. Unfortunately the American Public is paying for their mistake voting the Dub in office or nominating an asshole like Kerry to run against the highly incompetent Dub.


Correct... ultimately we are all to blame in a sense. Plus why shouldn't we listen to the political commentary of hollywood actors. Wasn't Reagan an actor? I'll listen to anyone that makes sense whether its a bum on the street or a fluffy actor like Ben Affleck.
 
Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Originally posted by: joshw10
Wasn't Coulter on? That should be enough to please ntdz
Not really. She was extremely critical of Bush last night ("You don't screw your base."). So was Andrew Sullivan, another person who'd formerly been an ardent, ntdz-style Bush parrot. Not any more. He is extremely angry with Bush, saying he will "never trust him again."

Two by two, the eyes are opening.

If anything, the fact that Sullivan and Coulter disagree with Bush should swing him *more* support, not less. Or are you subscribing to the "enemy of my enemy is my friend" logic now?
 
Originally posted by: ntdz
Sounds so fantastically liberal. Yuck.

I think it's funny that you can say things like that, but call yourself "not radical republican right."

Most rational/non-partisan people don't post drivel like that.

Edit: Where are you in the military budget bill thread? I keep calling out for you and chicken to post what you think about Bush's actions in that thread, don't keep me waiting 🙂.
 
Originally posted by: BarneyFife
Bill Maher is an arrogant a-hole. I hate that guy and his show.

Yeah, he is pretty arrogant, although the New Rules section is still pretty funny.
 
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Finger's comment explains why the left isn't getting much of anywhere either. He doesn't consider the possibility that maybe it's the left who are just opening their eyes to see that the right are not necessarily in a dazed lockstep with the Bush admin. The right are no more brain dead parrots than the left are brain dead anti-parrots. Until they realize this the left will continue to fail and the moderates, as usual, will continue to be stuck in the middle and have to suffer the ignorant mischaracterizations from both sides.
Fluff off. Your partisan duhversions are vacuous and repetitive. The level and tone of criticism of BushCo coming from the right is unprecedented. For you to hint otherwise is blatant misdirection. (Though, of course, you use your usual smarmy, innuendo-laced blather, suggesting a lie yet not technically asserting it so you can run away and deny it when challenged -- coward.) Why don't you slink back to Free Republic where they'll swallow your tall tales of how you lay down the smack-down for Lord Bush.

:roll:
 
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: joshw10
Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Originally posted by: joshw10
Wasn't Coulter on? That should be enough to please ntdz
Not really. She was extremely critical of Bush last night ("You don't screw your base."). So was Andrew Sullivan, another person who'd formerly been an ardent, ntdz-style Bush parrot. Not any more. He is extremely angry with Bush, saying he will "never trust him again."

Two by two, the eyes are opening.

This is why moderates cant win elections in this country. Bush apparantly starts to go closer to center, the right gets pissed off, the left still isnt going to approve, and only the fringes vote in primaries.
Finger's comment explains why the left isn't getting much of anywhere either. He doesn't consider the possibility that maybe it's the left who are just opening their eyes to see that the right are not necessarily in a dazed lockstep with the Bush admin. The right are no more brain dead parrots than the left are brain dead anti-parrots. Until they realize this the left will continue to fail and the moderates, as usual, will continue to be stuck in the middle and have to suffer the ignorant mischaracterizations from both sides.

Yeah, just keep voting for losers like Bush. That'll fix things up real nice.

Moderates vote too, and the right wingers are just as much at fault for their choices as are the left wingers. Bush is going to leave a bad taste in moderates mouths for a LONG TIME. It'll be years befroe we get out of Iraq and the results won't be any better then Vietnam. It wouldn't surprise me if GWB turns into the rights version of Hanoi Jane before it's all said and done.
 
Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Originally posted by: joshw10
Wasn't Coulter on? That should be enough to please ntdz
Not really. She was extremely critical of Bush last night ("You don't screw your base."). So was Andrew Sullivan, another person who'd formerly been an ardent, ntdz-style Bush parrot. Not any more. He is extremely angry with Bush, saying he will "never trust him again."

Two by two, the eyes are opening.
If anything, the fact that Sullivan and Coulter disagree with Bush should swing him *more* support, not less. Or are you subscribing to the "enemy of my enemy is my friend" logic now?
Sorry, but that's completely specious reasoning. I just reported facts. I still think Coulter is a fundamentally ugly person; I don't have strong opinions about Sullivan one way or another.

Bush's problem isn't that he's a moderate, it's that he's an amoral, close-minded ignoranus who scorns the American public and America's ideals. He doesn't represent either end of the political spectrum. He represents himself and the greedy elite like him. The better-late-than-never outcry from the right is just because the right (in general) was duped much more thoroughly than the left.
 
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