Dictator-In-Chief thinks police should not be militarized

[dank69]

Hypothetical example. One guy says I'm going to punch you 5 times in the stomach if you elect me. The second guy says I'm only going to punch you 4 times in the stomach if you elect me instead of that other first guy.

The way to fix this situation is not to vote for guy 2, but to vote against both of them. How is that so hard to understand?

Because either way, you are going to get punched in the stomach, and if you don't vote for 4 punch guy, it makes it that much easier for 5 punch guy to win. How is that so hard to understand?

 

[BoberFett]

Because either way, you are going to get punched in the stomach, and if you don't vote for 4 punch guy, it makes it that much easier for 5 punch guy to win. How is that so hard to understand?

You're part of the problem.

 

[dank69]

You're part of the problem.

Of trying to keep the country from going into the shitter as fast as possible? Guilty as charged.

 

[fleshconsumed]

Because either way, you are going to get punched in the stomach, and if you don't vote for 4 punch guy, it makes it that much easier for 5 punch guy to win. How is that so hard to understand?

Sure, I might take slightly more beating now by not voting for either of two parties and potentially letting the worse party get into office. However, once again, potentially, if enough people start thinking like me, we can vote those two parties out of the office.

Your way of voting for the lesser evil ensures it will never get better. What's even more likely to happen is things will keep getting worse and worse, the number of punches will start increasing, this year you get to choose between 4 and 5 punches, in four years you get to choose between 6 and 7 punches to your gut, in 8 more years you'll get to choose between a kick in the nuts and anal probe in the name of the homeland security, in 12 years the kick in the nuts and anal probe will be mandatory every year.

Ideally I'd like the "winner takes all" to go away. We need a system that allows for more than just 2 parties. Duopoly never works. It doesn't work in the private sector and it doesn't work in public sector. However, in the meantime I refuse to vote republicans because of their backwards stance on social stances and I refuse to vote democrats because they keep going back on their promises, i.e. not dealing with lobbyism, expanding warrantless NSA surveilance, and drone killings of American citizens without due process.

Here's a very relevant quote from Hitchiker's Guide to the Galaxy:

“It comes from a very ancient democracy, you see..."
"You mean, it comes from a world of lizards?"
"No," said Ford, who by this time was a little more rational and coherent than he had been, having finally had the coffee forced down him, "nothing so simple. Nothing anything like so straightforward. On its world, the people are people. The leaders are lizards. The people hate the lizards and the lizards rule the people."
"Odd," said Arthur, "I thought you said it was a democracy."
"I did," said Ford. "It is."
"So," said Arthur, hoping he wasn't sounding ridiculously obtuse, "why don't people get rid of the lizards?"
"It honestly doesn't occur to them," said Ford. "They've all got the vote, so they all pretty much assume that the government they've voted in more or less approximates to the government they want."
"You mean they actually vote for the lizards?"
"Oh yes," said Ford with a shrug, "of course."
"But," said Arthur, going for the big one again, "why?"
"Because if they didn't vote for a lizard," said Ford, "the wrong lizard might get in. Got any gin?"
"What?"
"I said," said Ford, with an increasing air of urgency creeping into his voice, "have you got any gin?"
"I'll look. Tell me about the lizards."
Ford shrugged again.
"Some people say that the lizards are the best thing that ever happenned to them," he said. "They're completely wrong of course, completely and utterly wrong, but someone's got to say it."
"But that's terrible," said Arthur.
"Listen, bud," said Ford, "if I had one Altairian dollar for every time I heard one bit of the Universe look at another bit of the Universe and say 'That's terrible' I wouldn't be sitting here like a lemon looking for a gin.”

Hopefully, this will help you understand the absurdity of what the majority of people are doing every 4 years.

 

[theeedude]

He's your duly elected president Commander-In-Chief and President. Just because you don't like the outcome of the election, doesn't make Obama a dictator.

 

[dank69]

Sure, I might take slightly more beating now by not voting for either of two parties and potentially letting the worse party get into office. However, once again, potentially, if enough people start thinking like me, we can vote those two parties out of the office.

Your way of voting for the lesser evil ensures it will never get better. What's even more likely to happen is things will keep getting worse and worse, the number of punches will start increasing, this year you get to choose between 4 and 5 punches, in four years you get to choose between 6 and 7 punches to your gut, in 8 more years you'll get to choose between a kick in the nuts and anal probe in the name of the homeland security, in 12 years the kick in the nuts and anal probe will be mandatory every year.

Ideally I'd like the "winner takes all" to go away. We need a system that allows for more than just 2 parties. Duopoly never works. It doesn't work in the private sector and it doesn't work in public sector. However, in the meantime I refuse to vote republicans because of their backwards stance on social stances and I refuse to vote democrats because they keep going back on their promises, i.e. not dealing with lobbyism, expanding warrantless NSA surveilance, and drone killings of American citizens without due process.

Here's a very relevant quote from Hitchiker's Guide to the Galaxy:

Hopefully, this will help you understand the absurdity of what the majority of people are doing every 4 years.

Yes, I'd love to live in an ideal world too, but we don't. We live in reality and your idealism is causing people to get punched more than they need to be. The sad thing is that reality is closer to choosing between 1 and 10 punches, unless you are religious.

 

[BoberFett]

Of trying to keep the country from going into the shitter as fast as possible? Guilty as charged.

Just so we're clear, you're happy to see the country go into the shitter, as long as it takes 60 years to get there instead of 50.

As I said, you're part of the problem.

 

[dank69]

Just so we're clear, you're happy to see the country go into the shitter, as long as it takes 60 years to get there instead of 50.

As I said, you're part of the problem.

Right, because if I just vote 3rd party, everything will change, amirite?

 

[BoberFett]

Right, because if I just vote 3rd party, everything will change, amirite?

If you don't, nothing will change.

But hey, if you like Black Bush, then bully for you.

 

[dank69]

If you don't, nothing will change.

But hey, if you like Black Bush, then bully for you.

If I do, nothing will change.

But hey, if you like Mittens selling us out to the highest bidder, then bully for you.

 

[JulesMaximus]

I agree with the President on this.

 

[JulesMaximus]

OP is a partisan hack who can't see what the real play is here by Obama.

By demilitarizing both the police and the citizens, there is nothing to stand in the way of complete federal government takeover. By 2020 I expect Obama to still be in office, and the final state to have fallen, likely Texas, will be at least a year under complete federal domination.

You're kidding right? I mean, this has to be a joke...

He'll be gone when his term is up in 2016.

 

[Darwin333]

And they're on the hook for all the medical expenses as well.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/20/county-wont-pay-toddler-grenade_n_5695271.html

I love how they keep asserting that there were absolutely NO signs of a child being present. How about, oh I dunno, the damn crib they threw the flash bang grenade into? Or does knowing where your munitions are going and could end up only something us sillyvians have to worry about?

I see two options in the above case:

1. The officers failed to do their due diligence and did not see where they were intentionally throwing munitions which would be negligence and at the very least the person who threw the grenade should be charged.

2. The officers did their due diligence, knew there was a child present, and intentionally threw the grenade into a crib that had a very high likelihood of having a child inside of it. That is called attempted murder and if you're a civilian about 30 other charges (almost positive that some sort of terrorism would be included).

I can purchase equipment that would have allowed me to easily evaluate the true risks inside the house for a couple grand maybe? Even better, I can sit on my ass in front of the house (or within binocular distance) and have a decent idea about the risks. Since those things are usually not done the entire "officer safety" line they use is complete bullshit to me. Good intelligence is far better for officer safety than a dozen tanks or helicopters or automatic weapons or whatever. Even piss poor intelligence should tell you how many people are in the house and their age/size. FFS don't we have thermal imaging shit on satellites that can tell how many people are in a house from space?

 

[Darwin333]

Your way of voting for the lesser evil ensures it will never get better..

Fuck the pussies that vote for the "lesser of two evils". If I'm going to vote for evil I go all fucking in and vote for the best possible evil, which is why I have written in Beelzebub the last two presidential elections.

 

[feralkid]

In Texas, it's Beelzebubba.

 

[Jay5]

"bi partisan support"

since when has the executive order in chief cared about bi partisan support.he does whatever he wants while americans sit back and blame bush on the result

 

[TheSlamma]

Fuck the pussies that vote for the "lesser of two evils". If I'm going to vote for evil I go all fucking in and vote for the best possible evil, which is why I have written in Beelzebub the last two presidential elections.

Instead of a slow collapse let's just get it done quick right?

 

[Knowing]

I guess people don't realize that consistently voting for the "lesser" of two presented evils means that you'll only ever be presented with two evils. Also, I sincerely doubt anyone voted for Obama because he was the lesser evil. Suggesting that he was bad for any reason that wasn't republicans' fault wouldn't even make it in to the news rotation.