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Dick Morris on Newt for Pres.

ProfJohn

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Ok whether you like Dick Morris or not you have to admit he is politically smart.
This is the guy who got Clinton re-elected governor after Clinton had been kicked out and he saved the Clinton Presidency after the 1994 beating with his triangulation policy.

So when he starts talking politics it is not a bad thing to listen to him.

I think he is very right about Newt, the conservatives LOVE Newt. The problem with Newt will be the national elections and how he does there.
One good thing about Newt is that he would run a campaign based on issues and political philosophy, which we haven?t really seen in a while.
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To echo the famous Negro League pitcher Satchel Paige: ?Don?t look back, Newt Gingrich might be gaining on you.? Newt, consigned by many observers to Elizabeth Dole or Dan Quayle status in this GOP nominating process, appears to be moving up into contention, overtaking former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney and battling to be the conservative alternative to either former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani or Arizona Sen. John McCain.

To grasp what?s happening, don?t think of states like New Hampshire or Iowa or worry whether it?s too early or too late. The key to following the Republican presidential nominating process this year is to recognize its essential similarity to the tennis?s U.S. Open at Forest Hills. There are quarter-finals, semi-finals, and finals.

In the quarter-finals, the center and the right each sort out the nominees to choose their candidate. On center court, Giuliani seems to be gaining a decisive lead over McCain?s impoverished presidential campaign. But on the right-hand court, unnoticed by most pundits, Gingrich seems to be building a lead over Romney and a host of conservative wannabes. The ultimate winner of the Giuliani/McCain quarter-final will face the winner of the Gingrich/Romney match-up in the semi-finals.

As McCain drops in the polls ? he?s down to 22 percent while Rudy is up at 34 percent in the latest Fox News poll ? some conservatives seem eager for a ?real Republican? to challenge for the nomination. Their first choice, former Virginia Sen. George Allen, lies a-moldering in the grave and his runner-up, former Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, has gone home to Tennessee.

Most observers assumed that Romney would fill the void. But he doesn?t seem to have been able to do so. It may be a racist refusal to vote for a Mormon or, more charitably, Romney?s flip-flop-flip from pro-life to pro-choice to pro-life, or it may have been his inconsistency on gay issues, but Mitt seems to be going the way of his father ? out of contention. The Fox News poll, which recorded a surge to up to 8 percent of the GOP vote in its Dec. 5-6 tally, now has Romney dropping back to only 3 percent of the vote.

Enter Newt. Hungry for new ideas and desperate after losing Congress, Republican voters seem to be rallying to the only real genius in the race ? the former Speaker. The statute of limitations seems to have expired on his personal scandals and Gingrich is striking a responsive chord among conservatives.

Fox News?s Jan. 30-31 survey had Newt leaving Romney way behind and challenging McCain for second place. The former Speaker?s vote share was 15 percent, giving him third place in the current standings.

Episodically, I just addressed a 450-person Lincoln Day dinner of the Lane County Republican Party in Eugene, Ore. A show of hands brought these results: Giuliani, 50 percent; Gingrich, 30 percent; McCain, 6 percent; Romney, 4 percent. A few days before, a speech to an Orlando investors group produced similar results.

But, as the slogan of the New York State Lottery goes: ?You can?t win if you don?t play.? Newt?s current posture of waiting until the fall of 2007 to see how the process sorts itself out won?t work. The process abhors a vacuum. If Gingrich doesn?t move out to respond to the affection of the GOP base, one of the minor-leaguers ? Huckabee, Brownback, Gilmore, Thompson, Hunter or Tancredo ? will.

The irony of the GOP field at the moment is that while most Republicans are conservatives, the two frontrunners ? Rudy and McCain ? are moderates. And this isn?t Nelson Rockefeller?s Republican Party anymore! Gingrich is filling a real political need and if he moves out smartly and files his paperwork, takes his announcement bows, and journeys to Iowa and New Hampshire as a candidate, he might well be a contender.
 

Ferocious

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I was a huge NEWT fan during the day.

But he has no chance of winning.

I think the GOP's list of potentials is almost as bad as the DEM's list. Maybe equally bad.
 

WHAMPOM

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Scraping up a candidate takes on a pungent smell. From the bottom of the barrel to what's hiding under the barrel.
 

Narmer

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Wasn't Dick Morris the moron that said the 2008 Presidential Election would be between Hillary Clinton and Condoleeza Rice?
 
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Newt is my #1 choice... He seems to be the only true conservative running. Maybe Mitt fits that bill, but I'm not sold on him yet. Anyway... I really don't think he can win. That said, the game isn't played on paper. This will be a VERY interesting race for the heart of the Republican party.
 

Jaskalas

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Newt is my #1 choice, he may be the only one who doesn?t profusely believe in bigger government. That?s my hope at least, but I figure there?s no hope for that these days. I expect all authoritarians on the ballot.
 

imported_Shivetya

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Newt would be interesting... but like another interesting choice, Bob Barr, he ain't going to make it past the press.


(Barr simply because he is very rights oriented)

Newt simply because he knows what the government needs to do, which isn't necessarily what the polios want it to
 

Red Dawn

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Dick Morris lost his political Mojo when he was discovered in a Hotel Room wearing Womens underwear.
 

Thump553

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The only way to think Newt is a viable candidate is the backdoor method-by looking at each of the other potential candidates and eliminating them because of their fatal flaws (McCain-Iraq cheerleader & potential meltdown, Rudy-meltdown, too autocratic, will offend the religious right, Romney-way too flip-floppy-he embodies what a pandering politician is, plus member/former church official of a religious cult that many consider to be non-Christian).

Only by doing this analysis, coupled with ignoring Gingrich's track record and prior failures, could he possibly be seen as a viable candidate-i.e., by being the last one standing. Trouble is he isn't a giant among men, but rather a pygmy among toads.

Personally I'd place my money on McCainbeing the candidate.
 

ayabe

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Dick Morris is a scumbag and now tries to make money bashing the Clintons at every opportunity. Total slime and a proven sexual deviant.

Let's not forget Newt, divorced his wife recovering from cancer in the hospital to be with his assistant. Also, people seem to forget he has ethics problems and that is why he has been out of government.

Total scum both of them.
 

Genx87

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Originally posted by: Ferocious
I was a huge NEWT fan during the day.

But he has no chance of winning.

I think the GOP's list of potentials is almost as bad as the DEM's list. Maybe equally bad.

It is shaping up to be horrible. None of the front runners interest me. More big govt conservatives, puke.

 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: Ferocious
I was a huge NEWT fan during the day.

But he has no chance of winning.

I think the GOP's list of potentials is almost as bad as the DEM's list. Maybe equally bad.
It is shaping up to be horrible. None of the front runners interest me. More big govt conservatives, puke.

:thumbsup:
 

XMan

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Originally posted by: ayabe
Dick Morris is a scumbag and now tries to make money bashing the Clintons at every opportunity. Total slime and a proven sexual deviant.

Let's not forget Newt, divorced his wife recovering from cancer in the hospital to be with his assistant. Also, people seem to forget he has ethics problems and that is why he has been out of government.

Total scum both of them.


That's not very progressive of you. ;)

Gingrich may be on the right side of a lot of issues, but he's also condescending as all get out. Totally unelectable.
 

DAPUNISHER

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There is very little chance of the next president being republican. W has pooched it for his party, but good. The majority of the American public are looking for a significant change, and convincing them that you can be that change, and be a republican, well, good luck with that.

It is usually a popularity&likability contest, but this is likely to be one of those elections where voters have just decided to give the "other guys" a chance. Much like november. Hardcores will vote for their parties, the well-informed will vote for the candidate that represents their agenda best, but the rest will vote for change.
 

1EZduzit

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The "smartest people in the game" want to run Newt for POTUS?

To quote your hero, ProfJohn, "Bring it on!"
 

BoberFett

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Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
There is very little chance of the next president being republican. W has pooched it for his party, but good. The majority of the American public are looking for a significant change, and convincing them that you can be that change, and be a republican, well, good luck with that.

It is usually a popularity&likability contest, but this is likely to be one of those elections where voters have just decided to give the "other guys" a chance. Much like november. Hardcores will vote for their parties, the well-informed will vote for the candidate that represents their agenda best, but the rest will vote for change.

Pretty much. I don't think any Republican has a chance in hell of sitting in the president's office. I'd vote for Ron Paul though.
 

Fern

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Dick Morris's personal baggage is irrelevent to his role as insightful political analyst. He's not running for a thing. He strikes me as smart as h3ll in this type stuff, I really enjoy listening to him., and if I were a candidite I think I'd hire him, if not just pay attention to his analysis.

I see Newt as similar to Hillary in that he will have strong negative numbers (from the Dems) taht no amount of money can overcome. Just as Hillary has strong negatives that won't move no matter what she does.

Newt seems a smart guy, he thinks outside the box and throws out more new ideas than all the others combined. Oh, and the press hates his guts.

Fern



 

Strk

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What do you do when your political career goes down the toilet? Why you become a a cable news regular!