Dick and Dub's excellent adventure!

zillafurby

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This is a recipie for fun:

Find a country where we

sponsored the dictator to take power

supported both him and his enemy in a 10 year war,

fell out with him and destroyed the country,

imposed 10 years of economic sanctions crippling the country and keeping him the only force in the country,

intermittently bombed the country and humiliated the population by half supporting coup attempts, and watching them endure the retribution, and reducing the population to un food handouts,

invaded the country for our own reasons, not concern for the population,

not organise a plan for taking over the country, well the state dept can organise one, but ill be damded if we read it!

use shock troops with no awareness of the locals and frankly no concern,

fail to secure the infrastructure when we win, and basically oversee the collapse of the government

let the population off paying tax and foot the entire bill ourselves, including rebuilding what we just bombed and when was run down by sanctions

watch while young people get killed in a guerilla campaign where there are externals, locals, and former regime memebers acting loosely together

rely on local police for information, who hate our guts

hmmm, it should be excellent, as long as we execute the plan perfectly. Dick and me will be real ol' heroes for saving everyone from evil saddam.
 

Vadatajs

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Originally posted by: Romans828
Why don't you move to communist China you would be happier and so would we

You insult our flag by using it as your avatar.
 

chess9

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Romans:

I hope you aren't around come Thanksgiving. They shoot turkeys around here.

-Robert
 

Romans828

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Originally posted by: Vadatajs
Originally posted by: Romans828
Why don't you move to communist China you would be happier and so would we

You insult our flag by using it as your avatar.


Its my flag too so STFU, want to fight for it?
 

Riprorin

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He was the lesser evil. We supported him because of the fear that the Islamic revolution in Iran would sweep the area.

You provide no historical context.
 

conjur

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Originally posted by: Romans828
Why don't you move to communist China you would be happier and so would we

How about you stop apologizing for the failures of the Cheney presidency.


BTW, Clarke's book offers a great vantage point of how we (the U.S. government) made mistakes starting in the Reagan administration that have fueled the militant Islamic radicals against us.
 

Romans828

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Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: Romans828
Why don't you move to communist China you would be happier and so would we

How about you stop apologizing for the failures of the Cheney presidency.


I am not apoligizing for a damn thing
 

Riprorin

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Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: Romans828
Why don't you move to communist China you would be happier and so would we

How about you stop apologizing for the failures of the Cheney presidency.


BTW, Clarke's book offers a great vantage point of how we (the U.S. government) made mistakes starting in the Reagan administration that have fueled the militant Islamic radicals against us.

The quadrennial silly season is the best time to launch a book on politics. The more outrageous the claims, the better.

How much has Clarke made on his book so far?
 

Riprorin

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Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: Romans828
Why don't you move to communist China you would be happier and so would we

How about you stop apologizing for the failures of the Cheney presidency.


BTW, Clarke's book offers a great vantage point of how we (the U.S. government) made mistakes starting in the Reagan administration that have fueled the militant Islamic radicals against us.

How is this better than Falwell saying that it was caused by the secularization of America, which you Liberals like to attack?
 

conjur

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Let's see...considering Clarke was making the interview rounds *last* year in anticipation of his book being release then, your assertion and implication that he is not credible doesn't wash.

You're just another Hannity/Limbaugh parrot.

Clarke was THE man on terrorism for over two decades!

I guess it doesn't matter to you that Clarke's story is corroborated by Paul O'Neill, who was hand-picked by Bush to be the Treasury Secretary. It's also corroborated by other people from the intelligence community: Daniel Benjamin, John DiJulio, Jospeh Wilson, Greg Thielmann, and Rand Beers.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: Romans828
Why don't you move to communist China you would be happier and so would we

How about you stop apologizing for the failures of the Cheney presidency.


BTW, Clarke's book offers a great vantage point of how we (the U.S. government) made mistakes starting in the Reagan administration that have fueled the militant Islamic radicals against us.

How is this better than Falwell saying that it was caused by the secularization of America, which you Liberals like to attack?
Well for one thing there is is probably some actual truth behind Clarkes allegations where as Falwells comments are just pure unadulterated BS.
 

zillafurby

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Originally posted by: Riprorin
He was the lesser evil. We supported him because of the fear that the Islamic revolution in Iran would sweep the area.

You provide no historical context.

america caused the revolution in iran, which was sponsored by iraq, then it got saddam to start a war, so it could guarantee a need for oil sales irregardless of opec quaotas, and to try and contain the mullahs, despite there being little chance of them exporting revolution to the gulf states. there only place iran successfully sponsored a takeover was in lebannon after years of war, a war exacerbated by the israelies.

you are picking one point out of a dozen! wake up kid.
 

Riprorin

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Originally posted by: conjur
Let's see...considering Clarke was making the interview rounds *last* year in anticipation of his book being release then, your assertion and implication that he is not credible doesn't wash.

You're just another Hannity/Limbaugh parrot.

Clarke was THE man on terrorism for over two decades!

I guess it doesn't matter to you that Clarke's story is corroborated by Paul O'Neill, who was hand-picked by Bush to be the Treasury Secretary. It's also corroborated by other people from the intelligence community: Daniel Benjamin, John DiJulio, Jospeh Wilson, Greg Thielmann, and Rand Beers.

Paul O'Neil is selling a book too, isn't he?

So, both will profit by pumping up sales of their books, right?
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: conjur
Let's see...considering Clarke was making the interview rounds *last* year in anticipation of his book being release then, your assertion and implication that he is not credible doesn't wash.

You're just another Hannity/Limbaugh parrot.

Clarke was THE man on terrorism for over two decades!

I guess it doesn't matter to you that Clarke's story is corroborated by Paul O'Neill, who was hand-picked by Bush to be the Treasury Secretary. It's also corroborated by other people from the intelligence community: Daniel Benjamin, John DiJulio, Jospeh Wilson, Greg Thielmann, and Rand Beers.

Paul O'Neil is selling a book too, isn't he?

So, both will profit by pumping up sales of their books, right?
Hannity is that you?
 

Riprorin

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: Romans828
Why don't you move to communist China you would be happier and so would we

How about you stop apologizing for the failures of the Cheney presidency.


BTW, Clarke's book offers a great vantage point of how we (the U.S. government) made mistakes starting in the Reagan administration that have fueled the militant Islamic radicals against us.

How is this better than Falwell saying that it was caused by the secularization of America, which you Liberals like to attack?
Well for one thing there is is probably some actual truth behind Clarkes allegations where as Falwells comments are just pure unadulterated BS.

Oh, so you agree with Clarke that the 9/11 attack was our fault?
 

zillafurby

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Originally posted by: zillafurby
Originally posted by: Romans828
Originally posted by: Vadatajs
Originally posted by: Romans828
Why don't you move to communist China you would be happier and so would we

You insult our flag by using it as your avatar.


Its my flag too so STFU, want to fight for it?

so when are you signing up for iraq, boy?


f*ck i saw on the other thread you are 42! you think like a kid, havent you learned anything in all those years. you brain is picked in mid-texan patronage and religion.
 

zillafurby

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Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: Romans828
Why don't you move to communist China you would be happier and so would we

How about you stop apologizing for the failures of the Cheney presidency.


BTW, Clarke's book offers a great vantage point of how we (the U.S. government) made mistakes starting in the Reagan administration that have fueled the militant Islamic radicals against us.

How is this better than Falwell saying that it was caused by the secularization of America, which you Liberals like to attack?
Well for one thing there is is probably some actual truth behind Clarkes allegations where as Falwells comments are just pure unadulterated BS.

Oh, so you agree with Clarke that the 9/11 attack was our fault?

well you pissed the arabs off so much they set up an organisation to fight you, and they are winning so far.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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"Oh, so you agree with Clarke that the 9/11 attack was our fault? "

Well, I don't really feel like getting into a flame fest, but I am curious as to the context of this statement. Would you define "our fault" as both you and Clarke mean, and are they the same in context?

Personally, I think it is unlikely we could have done much before 9/11 to prevent it with all that comes into the agencies. We were probably scheduled to be invaded by Martians too, and pre 9/11 that seemed just as likely. What I WOULD find disturbing is if due diligence was not exercised in that time period. It is one thing to try and fail, and another to miss a thing by being dismissive of it. I would like to know more. Further, if testimony is not under oath, then it is worth the paper it is written on.
 

Riprorin

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Originally posted by: zillafurby
Originally posted by: Riprorin
He was the lesser evil. We supported him because of the fear that the Islamic revolution in Iran would sweep the area.

You provide no historical context.

america caused the revolution in iran, which was sponsored by iraq, then it got saddam to start a war, so it could guarantee a need for oil sales irregardless of opec quaotas, and to try and contain the mullahs, despite there being little chance of them exporting revolution to the gulf states. there only place iran successfully sponsored a takeover was in lebannon after years of war, a war exacerbated by the israelies.

you are picking one point out of a dozen! wake up kid.

Huh?

Kid????
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: Romans828
Why don't you move to communist China you would be happier and so would we

How about you stop apologizing for the failures of the Cheney presidency.


BTW, Clarke's book offers a great vantage point of how we (the U.S. government) made mistakes starting in the Reagan administration that have fueled the militant Islamic radicals against us.

How is this better than Falwell saying that it was caused by the secularization of America, which you Liberals like to attack?
Well for one thing there is is probably some actual truth behind Clarkes allegations where as Falwells comments are just pure unadulterated BS.

Oh, so you agree with Clarke that the 9/11 attack was our fault?
LOL, Clarke never said that and if he did then I think he's wrong. Anyways if you read what I posted I stated that there is probably some actual truth behind Clarkes allegations where as your boy Fallwell is full of sh!t
 

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: zillafurby
Originally posted by: Riprorin
He was the lesser evil. We supported him because of the fear that the Islamic revolution in Iran would sweep the area.

You provide no historical context.

america caused the revolution in iran, which was sponsored by iraq, then it got saddam to start a war, so it could guarantee a need for oil sales irregardless of opec quaotas, and to try and contain the mullahs, despite there being little chance of them exporting revolution to the gulf states. there only place iran successfully sponsored a takeover was in lebannon after years of war, a war exacerbated by the israelies.

you are picking one point out of a dozen! wake up kid.

Huh?

Kid????

I'd just leave zillatroll alone. It's obvious he/she just part of the blame america first crowd.

CkG
 

zillafurby

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Originally posted by: Romans828
Just leave well enough alone ok?

what are you talking about? leave you alone? you are posting here, and YOU are supporting all the bullsh!t that Bush is doing. i have a right to confront you on it. bush will be in the dock soon enogh, but he is doing all the damage today because he is criminally incompetent, and cheney and donald dont care, powell doesnt have a say, and rice is a token black/ woman, clueless rookie cheerleader, who it turns out is totally out of her depth.