Dial up question

[CorCentral]

Yea' I know, I'm still on dial up. Switiching to DSL when my 1year deal is up in Jan.

The last week or so, I've been noticing lag.......... as in--
When loading a webpage it will pause,maybe load some more,maybe not for 30sec to a min+. Sometimes I'll just get disconnected and other time will time out/page not available.

I don't think it has to do with a virus or adware because I'm one of those that's very fluent on updating,patching etc. I have noticed it happens alot in the evening after 7pm.
This is a small town though and I don't think it's an issue with too many people online **LOL**

I've emailed my provider and have yet to hear back from them. Anyone have any tips on what I can ask the provider to see if it's on their end?

Thanks

EDIT: I forgot to mention that since Jan. 05 when I signed up for this service, nothing in my computer has changed component wise.

 

[Lemon law]

I am still stuck on dial up---with no dsl available--and have similar problems---and if any think its easy to fight city hall--they have not tried fighting a phone company.

If its after 7 pm---chances are its in one of the many bad splices between you and the central switch---and caused by expansion and contraction of cooling temperatures. But may also be caused by high local telephone traffic.

And if you don't have a tech on site when its happening---they will tell you its all in your imagination---and besides---all they have to provide is a 14.4 connection if they are regulated at all. You could ask the phone co. to switch you from one wiring pair to another at the phone pedestal--you might get lucky--or it could get worse.

And if your phone line is so noisy and sub-standard---what gives you the idea your phone line will support dsl?

But it could also be your isp--not enough servers for the load--which will increase after 7 when people get off work, eat supper, and start to play on the internet. I doubt its in your inside wiring which is unlikely to be time effected. But the phone co. will blame your isp---and your isp will blame the phone company.---but on that you may be able to get an idea by taking a trial with another isp--if you have a good connection with them after 7--its your isp you need to chuck.--and exonerate the phone co.

But for me--its been there-- done that--it still sucks.

 

[CorCentral]

Originally posted by: Lemon law
I am still stuck on dial up---with no dsl available--and have similar problems---and if any think its easy to fight city hall--they have not tried fighting a phone company.

If its after 7 pm---chances are its in one of the many bad splices between you and the central switch---and caused by expansion and contraction of cooling temperatures. But may also be caused by high local telephone traffic.

And if you don't have a tech on site when its happening---they will tell you its all in your imagination---and besides---all they have to provide is a 14.4 connection if they are regulated at all. You could ask the phone co. to switch you from one wiring pair to another at the phone pedestal--you might get lucky--or it could get worse.

And if your phone line is so noisy and sub-standard---what gives you the idea your phone line will support dsl?

But it could also be your isp--not enough servers for the load--which will increase after 7 when people get off work, eat supper, and start to play on the internet. I doubt its in your inside wiring which is unlikely to be time effected. But the phone co. will blame your isp---and your isp will blame the phone company.---but on that you may be able to get an idea by taking a trial with another isp--if you have a good connection with them after 7--its your isp you need to chuck.--and exonerate the phone co.

But for me--its been there-- done that--it still sucks.

Thanks for your response. I really appreciate it.
My ISP and Phone Company are one..... Ben Lomand Communications/McMinnville, TN.
I have'nt had any problems 'till last week...... and I'm on the internet "ALOT"

Most people around here probably don't have the money to talk on the phone & have Internet service, let alone know what it is. It's just strange it's happening now.

I suppose a call is in order........... I'll get some indian girl with a southern accent who asks me: Have you tried restarting your computer? ARRRGGGHH!!! Is your Hard Drive Defragmented sir?

I-chee-wa-wa! :roll:

 

[CorCentral]

Here it is 12:15am and the same thing's happening as I try to reply to this thread.

This internet has been so good to me 'till now. I'm a night person mostly and now it f**** up? And has never F****d up before? Could it be old tele lines under my house? I don't know because it never does this lag crap during the day.

I'm dreading the call to the phone company/ISP, really I am! I may just say hell with it and switch to cable............. !

 

[Lemon law]

By 12:15 am--most sane people have gone to bed---so X the insufficient # of servers hypothesis.

But painful as it may be---try the call to the service department---they just might find your problem.---look up Wolpe's systematic desensadation in a Psychology textbook. And then imagine the worst--by then you can only be pleasantly surprised.

 

[CorCentral]

Called Support tonight....... I have them stumped he says. He asks me to hook up a phone to this internet line and call my main phone........... Tried that with no static or problems. I even called from the internet line to FL with no problems.

I told them I have a dedicated 2nd phone line to the computer for internet. (I pay for another phone line) I have multiple spam, antivirus/adware programs and that we've just encounterd this problem a week or so ago. I swear it's not on my end!

This fu**** is lagging just tryin' to open up the damn reply box to post this message!

It always happens in the evening going on 7pm give or take 30min. Right now it's bad......................... Load a little/LAG............... Load a little/LAG.............. wait 20-30 sec more........... Web page loaded!

Does anyone else have a clue as to what's going on? If anyone can help, I'd really appreciate it.

 

[Goosemaster]

startup in safe mode with networking, turn ever program off and such, and try it

 

[CorCentral]

Originally posted by: Goosemaster
startup in safe mode with networking, turn ever program off and such, and try it

Have already done this. Remember, this lag crap/drop offs have been in the last week or so. For over 9mths............ ZERO problems. I'm on the internet alot and know when changes occur.

Programs used and updated often:
Win 2000Pro
Norton Internet Security Suite
Spybot
Ad-Aware Se Plus w/adwatch
SpamPal

 

[Lemon law]

First, when you called service---was it at a time when the problem was occuring?

Second---just to be sure---could you borrow someone's lap top to help get a clue if its in your compter
or in the phone line? The only thing I can think of that would cause your problem in a computer would be some sort of malware totally grabbing your internet connection to report in---and malware scanners will not always catch them---try posting a highjack this log on something like spyware warriors forums. Another thing to try might be to try to mis-set your computer clock by 12 hours or so and see if it goes away.--or starts occuring 12 hour off.---I also wonder if some sort of program in your computer is trying to auto update but can't--but keeps trying anyway. Instead of a delete and reinstall---just take a set of programs off the start up list.--and narrow it down that way. If you can find the bad program---then you can troubleshoot just it.

Third, you need some sort of speed meter on throughput--download some sort of free modem speed test programs.---at least you can put a number on it.

Fourth----try your other phone line for the modem hookup.

Fifth---look for any electric eye type devices in your home or near neighborhood that turns on a device like a light at dark.

Sixth---hold your phone company's feet to the fire--especially if it can be shown your computer is not the lone ranger.

All I can think of off the top of my head---but maybe someone has some other ideas.

 

[Seekermeister]

Originally posted by: Goosemaster
startup in safe mode with networking, turn ever program off and such, and try it

Exactly how is that done? I tried that recently, and my dialup connection did not even appear in Network Connections, nor was it possible to creat one.

 

[Lemon law]

Had another brainfart---but at least its testable---could it be that you have been hacked---and made into someone else's zombie machine---doing something like sending out spam e-mails. Which would account for your symtoms---as all your banswidth is mostly going into aswering zombie command---and when you want to do something useful for yourself---you must wait for that tiny slice of bandwidth remaining.

Two ways to test.

1. Not familar with your OS---but in win XP--and others I am familar with---there is that network connection icon on the task bar---right click it---and then right click status---and you can see a running total of bytes sent and received----if its running fast---and you are requesting nothing, you have a giant clue there.

2. You can also request that your isp do the same---and get a better clue on exactly what your computer is doing.

3. If you are running slow and the network traffic count is snail slow also----my brainfart is probably nothing but a worthless brainfart.

4. If it turns out you are owned by someone else---you can look for rootkits or backdoors---but the easy way may be just to reformat your hard drive and a clean reinstall of the whole computer.

 

[Seekermeister]

The speeds appear normal, so I doubt that the problem that you described exists. The idea of reformatting might be a good one, but even though I made a set of backup disks, I have never used them and am not anxious to do so. I've not done that but once before, with a set made with NTI's backup utility, and either that or the CDs that I used were not worth two cents, because all they had when I tried to use them was garbage. I think that the current set is better, but I consider them only as a last resort.

I spoke with my ISP about this briefly this mourning, but he had no answers on hand, and said he would email me after speaking with his superiors...but I'm not too hopeful.

I'm going to be installing MCE when I get some more hardware, and I will only be using x64 as a backup, so I will probably just let the dead dog lie, unless there is some kind of hardware problem that would effect MCE also.

 

[Lemon law]

To seekermeister,

I don't know exactly what your problem is---I was addressing CorCentral---but it would help to know exactly what your problem is---how its the same---and how its different.---its very hard---on the same thread---to address two different people.

But in terms of reformatting the hard drive---its purpose is to totally nuke any bad guys present on your hardrive--that you have picked up on the net or elsewhere---Once you have a totally reformatted hardrive with zero on it--Then you reinstall the OS---and any needed drivers--then you reinstall your programs.----using the presumed malware free OEM disks.

Using just a back up of your hard drive defeats the purpose---unless its known clean---it just reinstalls the same bad problem you had before. And you need imaging software like Acronis or Norton Ghost to get a image you can copy to a reformatted hardrive.

And some malware is just very difficult to remove---as I found out when I bought a used computer cheap---and they threw in 3000+ pieces of malware at no extra charge. 99% was easily removable---being the stubborn type--the getting that last 1% took an inordinate amount of time---2020 hindsight---I should have done a clean reinstall. It would have been far faster.

 

[Seekermeister]

Lemon law,

Sorry, I got my thread crossed. However, there is still one question that I would like to toss out. I realize that Acronis is considered to be the best for backups, but at the moment, I'm using Dantz Retrospect. Do you have any opinion as to how good it is, in regards to making backup DVDs and restoring a system? I'm wondering how much faith to put in it?

 

[Lemon law]

I'm ignorant on danta retrospect--but see what others comment on it.

 

[Seekermeister]

I had a typo. It's Dantz.

 

[CorCentral]

When I called service, yes, the problem was occuring (around 8pm). I forgot to mention that for 9+ mths here that I usually and almost always connect at 52k. At night when the problems occur, I connect at 37.2k-48k and rarely at 52k, but sometimes.

As for the possibly having Malware grabbing my internet connection....... The connection's just slow and does nothing. I can see when it's working and when it's not. I can't see someone stealing something that's not there in the first place.

I do have a full blown backup computer. Going to hook it up and update all the security software and Windows today. Then around 7pm+, post here on that computer to see if it's doing the same thing.

I also ran the newest version of Blacklight's Rookit program. All clean. I just can't see something getting in with me being so careful, always updating, etc.

If it happens on my backup computer it's definately on their end. I'll keep you posted

 

[Lemon law]

To CorCentral,

Very good idea on the backup computer---its sure will help narrow things down. But don't put too much faith in initial connection speeds--which tend to slow down when the line connection gets noisy---that why you should use a modem speed test which shows actual throughput at random times when used. But if your initial connection speed drops at night---its still monitoring something. But with a through put monitoring you may discover a connection that initially connects at 52k may slow down to maybe 48k---but something connecting at 37k may later slow down to like 5k.--oh well--why speculate.

I'll just wait for a post back.

 

[Seekermeister]

CorCentral,

I had a similar problem recently but I emailed USR, and they said that drastic drops in connectivity were usually due to problems with the telephone line. Apparently, they were right, because it cleared up without me doing anything.

I'm curious how you ever get 52k on your connection? I use V92 and I never get better than 49.2K, and that has been with several different ISPs, and several different modems.

 

[CorCentral]

Ok, I'm on the backup computer now with everything updated. One thing I notice here is that Anandtech loads "MUCH FASTER" than the other computer ever did.

If I do have Malware,etc on the other computer, what programs do I need to download and run to try and sniff something out? As for the 52k, it's a small town I suppose and good connection. I used to get 49.2k in FL before moving here.


So far no problems on the backup computer but it's just now a little after 7pm...........

EDIT: Okay, there is one thing that has been added to the other computer that possibly coincides with the problem....... Software for a Tungsten E2 Palm unit. My wife just reminded me of this. It's a program called AvantGo and AGConnect......

 

[Seekermeister]

There is a list of programs for detecting and removing malware, but a couple that I use regularly are SpyBot and SpySweeper. Another good program, but which I have found less useful is AdAware. A more complex program that I haven't learned too much about, is "Hyjack This".

 

[CorCentral]

Originally posted by: Seekermeister
There is a list of programs for detecting and removing malware, but a couple that I use regularly are SpyBot and SpySweeper. Another good program, but which I have found less useful is AdAware. A more complex program that I haven't learned too much about, is "Hyjack This".

I've already run fully updated:
Spybot
Adaware SE Plus
Norton Internet security suite '05 antivirus
F-Secure blacklight rootkiller (trial)

And nothing comes up. So far so good on this backup computer.

EDIT: Going to hook the other computer up now and see if the problem is still there.......

 

[CorCentral]

HiJackThis log file......

Logfile of HijackThis v1.99.1
Scan saved at 8:33:54 PM, on 11/1/2006
Platform: Windows 2000 SP4 (WinNT 5.00.2195)
MSIE: Internet Explorer v6.00 SP1 (6.00.2800.1106)

Running processes:
C:\WINNT\System32\smss.exe
C:\WINNT\system32\winlogon.exe
C:\WINNT\system32\services.exe
C:\WINNT\system32\lsass.exe
C:\WINNT\system32\svchost.exe
C:\WINNT\system32\spoolsv.exe
C:\Program Files\Symantec\LiveUpdate\ALUSchedulerSvc.exe
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccProxy.exe
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccSetMgr.exe
C:\WINNT\System32\svchost.exe
C:\WINNT\system32\hidserv.exe
C:\Program Files\Norton Internet Security\ISSVC.exe
C:\Program Files\Norton Internet Security\Norton AntiVirus\navapsvc.exe
C:\WINNT\system32\nvsvc32.exe
C:\WINNT\system32\regsvc.exe
C:\WINNT\system32\MSTask.exe
C:\WINNT\Explorer.EXE
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\SNDSrvc.exe
C:\WINNT\system32\stisvc.exe
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\CCPD-LC\symlcsvc.exe
C:\WINNT\System32\WBEM\WinMgmt.exe
C:\WINNT\system32\svchost.exe
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccEvtMgr.exe
C:\WINNT\CTHELPER.EXE
C:\WINNT\system32\CTXFIHLP.EXE
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccApp.exe
C:\WINNT\SYSTEM32\CTXFISPI.EXE
C:\WINNT\system32\spool\drivers\w32x86\3\hpztsb10.exe
C:\Utilities\Winamp\winampa.exe
C:\WINNT\system32\rundll32.exe
C:\UTILIT~1\AdAware\AD-AWA~1\Ad-Watch.exe
C:\Program Files\Common Files\DataViz\DvzIncMsgr.exe
C:\Jennifer1\My Palm\Hotsync.exe
C:\Utilities\SpamPal\spampal.exe
C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\IEXPLORE.EXE
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\AdBlocking\NSMdtr.exe
C:\Utilities\SpyBot\Spybot - Search & Destroy\SpybotSD.exe
C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\IEXPLORE.EXE
C:\Utilities\HiJackThis\HijackThis.exe

R0 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Start Page = http://www.mcckc.edu/~crosby/
O2 - BHO: AcroIEHlprObj Class - {06849E9F-C8D7-4D59-B87D-784B7D6BE0B3} - C:\Program Files\Adobe\Acrobat 7.0\ActiveX\AcroIEHelper.dll
O2 - BHO: Norton Internet Security - {9ECB9560-04F9-4bbc-943D-298DDF1699E1} - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\AdBlocking\NISShExt.dll
O2 - BHO: NAV Helper - {BDF3E430-B101-42AD-A544-FADC6B084872} - C:\Program Files\Norton Internet Security\Norton AntiVirus\NavShExt.dll
O3 - Toolbar: &Radio - {8E718888-423F-11D2-876E-00A0C9082467} - C:\WINNT\system32\msdxm.ocx
O3 - Toolbar: Norton Internet Security - {0B53EAC3-8D69-4b9e-9B19-A37C9A5676A7} - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\AdBlocking\NISShExt.dll
O3 - Toolbar: Norton AntiVirus - {42CDD1BF-3FFB-4238-8AD1-7859DF00B1D6} - C:\Program Files\Norton Internet Security\Norton AntiVirus\NavShExt.dll
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Synchronization Manager] mobsync.exe /logon
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [NvCplDaemon] RUNDLL32.EXE C:\WINNT\system32\NvCpl.dll,NvStartup
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [CTHelper] CTHELPER.EXE
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [CTxfiHlp] CTXFIHLP.EXE
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [ccApp] "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccApp.exe"
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [SSC_UserPrompt] C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\Security Center\UsrPrmpt.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [NeroFilterCheck] C:\WINNT\system32\NeroCheck.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [ipTray.exe] "C:\Program Files\Intel\IDU\iptray.exe"
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [awTray.exe] "C:\Program Files\Intel\IDU\awtray.exe"
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [DiskeeperSystray] "C:\Program Files\Executive Software\Diskeeper\DkIcon.exe"
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [nwiz] nwiz.exe /install
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [HPDJ Taskbar Utility] C:\WINNT\system32\spool\drivers\w32x86\3\hpztsb10.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [gcasServ] "C:\Program Files\Microsoft AntiSpyware\gcasServ.exe"
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [NvMediaCenter] RUNDLL32.EXE C:\WINNT\system32\NvMcTray.dll,NvTaskbarInit
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [WinampAgent] C:\Utilities\Winamp\winampa.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [DXDllRegExe] C:\WINNT\system32\dxdllreg.exe
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [AWMON] "C:\UTILIT~1\AdAware\AD-AWA~1\Ad-Watch.exe"
O4 - Startup: SpamPal.lnk = C:\Utilities\SpamPal\spampal.exe
O16 - DPF: {01010E00-5E80-11D8-9E86-0007E96C65AE} (SupportSoft SmartIssue) - http://www.symantec.com/techsupp/asa/ctrl/tgctlsi.cab
O16 - DPF: {01012101-5E80-11D8-9E86-0007E96C65AE} (SupportSoft Script Runner Class) - http://www.symantec.com/techsupp/asa/ctrl/tgctlsr.cab
O16 - DPF: {17492023-C23A-453E-A040-C7C580BBF700} (Windows Genuine Advantage Validation Tool) - http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?linkid=39204
O16 - DPF: {406B5949-7190-4245-91A9-30A17DE16AD0} (Snapfish Activia) - http://www.snapfish.com/SnapfishActivia.cab
O16 - DPF: {49232000-16E4-426C-A231-62846947304B} - http://ipgweb.cce.hp.com/rdqaio/downloads/sysinfo.cab
O16 - DPF: {6414512B-B978-451D-A0D8-FCFDF33E833C} (WUWebControl Class) - http://update.microsoft.com/windowsupda...86/client/wuweb_site.cab?1131722841078
O16 - DPF: {88D969C0-F192-11D4-A65F-0040963251E5} (XML DOM Document 4.0) - file://C:\TempEI4\EI40_\msxml4.cab
O16 - DPF: {CE28D5D2-60CF-4C7D-9FE8-0F47A3308078} - http://www.symantec.com/techsupp/asa/ctrl/SymAData.cab
O16 - DPF: {D1E7CBDA-E60E-4970-A01C-37301EF7BF98} (Measurement Services Client v.3.11) - http://gameadvisor.futuremark.com/global/msc311.cab
O16 - DPF: {F58E1CEF-A068-4C15-BA5E-587CAF3EE8C6} (MSN Chat Control 4.5) - http://chat.msn.com/controls/msnchat45.cab
O17 - HKLM\System\CCS\Services\Tcpip\..\{0B2DA9F3-EF9D-4568-93BA-8277FAB5B253}: NameServer = 64.53.83.131 206.74.254.2
O17 - HKLM\System\CS1\Services\Tcpip\..\{0B2DA9F3-EF9D-4568-93BA-8277FAB5B253}: NameServer = 64.53.83.131 206.74.254.2
O23 - Service: Automatic LiveUpdate Scheduler - Symantec Corporation - C:\Program Files\Symantec\LiveUpdate\ALUSchedulerSvc.exe
O23 - Service: Symantec Event Manager (ccEvtMgr) - Symantec Corporation - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccEvtMgr.exe
O23 - Service: Symantec Network Proxy (ccProxy) - Symantec Corporation - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccProxy.exe
O23 - Service: Symantec Password Validation (ccPwdSvc) - Symantec Corporation - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccPwdSvc.exe
O23 - Service: Symantec Settings Manager (ccSetMgr) - Symantec Corporation - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccSetMgr.exe
O23 - Service: Logical Disk Manager Administrative Service (dmadmin) - VERITAS Software Corp. - C:\WINNT\System32\dmadmin.exe
O23 - Service: InstallDriver Table Manager (IDriverT) - Macrovision Corporation - C:\Program Files\Common Files\InstallShield\Driver\11\Intel 32\IDriverT.exe
O23 - Service: ISSvc (ISSVC) - Symantec Corporation - C:\Program Files\Norton Internet Security\ISSVC.exe
O23 - Service: LiveUpdate - Symantec Corporation - C:\PROGRA~1\Symantec\LIVEUP~1\LUCOMS~1.EXE
O23 - Service: Norton AntiVirus Auto-Protect Service (navapsvc) - Symantec Corporation - C:\Program Files\Norton Internet Security\Norton AntiVirus\navapsvc.exe
O23 - Service: NVIDIA Display Driver Service (NVSvc) - NVIDIA Corporation - C:\WINNT\system32\nvsvc32.exe
O23 - Service: Pml Driver HPZ12 - HP - C:\WINNT\system32\HPZipm12.exe
O23 - Service: SAVScan - Symantec Corporation - C:\Program Files\Norton Internet Security\Norton AntiVirus\SAVScan.exe
O23 - Service: ScriptBlocking Service (SBService) - Symantec Corporation - C:\PROGRA~1\COMMON~1\SYMANT~1\SCRIPT~1\SBServ.exe
O23 - Service: Symantec Network Drivers Service (SNDSrvc) - Symantec Corporation - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\SNDSrvc.exe
O23 - Service: Symantec SPBBCSvc (SPBBCSvc) - Symantec Corporation - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\SPBBC\SPBBCSvc.exe
O23 - Service: Symantec Core LC - Symantec Corporation - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\CCPD-LC\symlcsvc.exe

 

[Lemon law]

To CorCentral and seekmeister,

To briefly explain how hijack this works----(1) Go to spyware warriors forums (2) Download a copy of hyjack this. (3) Install and run hyjack this (4) Which will output a log file of certain parts of your registry (5) Copy, cut, and paste this file to the spyware warriors forums (6) A expert file reader will check your logfile within a day or so and tell you if they detect some nasty stuff---and tell you how exactly how to remove it.------and as a been there---done that---it works---when every know scanner on the planet has failed.

And CorCentral---if thats all you have in the way of security---I would say you are a little light----and totally missing anything in the process control area. If I were you, I would be doing some online scans on panda, trend micro, and kaspersky---I'd be downloading free copies of A2, ewido, and super anti spyware---which will often catch stuff spybot and ad-aware miss.
Even if they miss stuff adaware and spybot catch. And try a trial copy of spyware doctor---even if it red-herrings you--it will clue you into the fact you have something.--I will alo assume you know enough to not run ie for a web browser. But all in all, I can tell you from grim experience---don't place too much faith in scanners.

But meanwhile---you face the acid test---evening on the backup computer.

 

[CorCentral]

Originally posted by: Lemon law
To CorCentral and seekmeister,

To briefly explain how hijack this works----(1) Go to spyware warriors forums (2) Download a copy of hyjack this. (3) Install and run hyjack this (4) Which will output a log file of certain parts of your registry (5) Copy, cut, and paste this file to the spyware warriors forums (6) A expert file reader will check your logfile within a day or so and tell you if they detect some nasty stuff---and tell you how exactly how to remove it.------and as a been there---done that---it works---when every know scanner on the planet has failed.

And CorCentral---if thats all you have in the way of security---I would say you are a little light----and totally missing anything in the process control area. If I were you, I would be doing some online scans on panda, trend micro, and kaspersky---I'd be downloading free copies of A2, ewido, and super anti spyware---which will often catch stuff spybot and ad-aware miss.
Even if they miss stuff adaware and spybot catch. And try a trial copy of spyware doctor---even if it red-herrings you--it will clue you into the fact you have something.--I will alo assume you know enough to not run ie for a web browser. But all in all, I can tell you from grim experience---don't place too much faith in scanners.

But meanwhile---you face the acid test---evening on the backup computer.

(On the backup computer again)
I'm on it Pilgrim. I'm going to download A-Squared, a program which Maximum PC recommends. I have to download on the Pc because the other is so bad, burn to cd..... etc I'll try to run the free scans online w/Trend Micro and Kaspersky, but it will be a long time waiting I'm afraid.................. Going to download. Will post back asap.

Thanks again for the advice.