Originally posted by: VanillaH
i agree classic is a far better dueling platform than LoD ever was or will be. i feel uncomfortable with most builds under 80 tho, thats like bare minimum to come up with a complete build in my view. how fast was your cast rate? ever since they changed fastest from 30% to 20%, most everyone started using shard + 1 20% piece to achieve 70% (8fpc). they changed the fp scale as well to match the LoD style. before they screwed up the CM, 8fpc was pretty much de facto standard as the 7fpc was considered an overkill (downside of going 7fpc was far greater than the gain). now i fell 9fpc is fine for cold vs cold, 8fpc for all the rest matchups. i know of one guy who has a ungodly good regen gear to achieve 8fpc and 50-60 regen with res and all. since i dont have rings of that caliber, i stick with wand + dual sojs which is far better than shard + half assed rings.
I couldn't tell you know but it was at least 70-90%(probably much higher, just low ballparking it). I shelved her years ago, but it was right on the max fpc tip before you had to give up mana gear for faster cast. Though again that was all in classic. I think LoD had more gear making it easier but with the extreme resistance items it made it pointless. The best was definately before LoD. I know dupes happened prior to LoD but I saw a serious increase in bot usage and all the dupe exploits. Remember the binding move item packets for the socket dupes? Which means everyone could dupe 3 socketable items per character. It took them at least two patches to catch those. I don't think until 1.09 did they even start to crack down on easy dupes like that. The trade channels were filled with <elite blah blah with one socket items> You would have to weed through the items to find the unidentified elites to know that your items wouldn't disappear later on...
From the sorc, I moved to the lightning sorc, javazon, and a swordshield/dual mace/lancer barbs. Spent a bit of time grabbing the most perfect sword. Allowing upto 5 hits with whirlwind, 2-hander with 290+% damage and 7+% lifesteal. I tried it out for a bit, and took the gamble on socketing it. I got two sockets, and traded it for some 1.08 arkaines. That was basically the last item to make an unstoppable character, and short of the bugged pierce with the unlimited effect I don't think I had lost many duels on the SS barb. I did collect a ton of run charms and could outrun arrows. Though I preferred my frenzy barb in pve, the SS barb was the staple PvP barb. Just enough stats for the arkaines and the rest vitality(pratically cookie cutter, but at that point there isn't much else to do). It was fun going up to smiteadins that were cocky enough to just stand still trying to smite you to death, when you could outrange them with even a sword. Just cut them down with the edges of WW, and have a ton of lifesteal gear to make up for any love taps they handed out.
Frankly as LoD wore on, it became a matter of what gear you had that determined a lot of the fights. People used slow gear, you had to have anti-slow gear. Zons with magic arrow, tons of run charms. Sorc with heavy CM, tons of res gear. Barbs, more lifesteal, better stats on weapons/armor. The game of farmers. I think if I played until the IM went against Leap Attack I probably would quit as well. There is no counterattack to that. You could at least leap out of the BP, but couldn't touch the necro. Sounds kinda cheesy to me.
edit: also, I want to say (IIRC, the fastest zon animation for bows was 4-5fpc with the right stats bow) I think I was around there 4-5fpc. I was pratically on par with the fastest zon bows cast wise. Though this was when the stats per item was 20-30% again IIRC. I wouldn't be able to give you the exact numbers, because I had an account snaffu and my items were convientely relocated to someone elses account. Though after they got rid of loot pvp, it kinda lost it's flavor. I did play at least three times, but each time they would turn off the loot or log out before they died. The PvE system was much more refined, at least in LoD the challenges just seemed more impressive that the LoD PvE.
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