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palehorse

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Originally posted by: HardWarrior
Originally posted by: palehorse74
what does this have to do with the DHS as a whole?

That remains to be seen. Don't you EXPECT complete professionalism from people with this sort of power? If you don't you shouldn't be surprised when any of them behave this way, and you shouldn't whine when it happens to you.
what "sort of power"? Federal agent status? nothing new there... so what's your point again? Tens of thousands of people have Federal Agent Status in this country, and we're talking about TWO of them.

These incidents have nothing to do with Federal power specifically. The incident involving two agents with an attitude problem resembles any other police harrassment case. The same "sort of power" is often abused by law enforcement types the world over! Sheriff Joe Blow in Poe-dunk USA could just as easily abuse his powers and harass innocent people... it happens somewhere every day.

so, again, this had nothing to do with the agents being "Federal," and everything to do with the two involved being just plain stupid and immature.
 

HardWarrior

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"What sort of power?" The same power that cops have, but only to a greater degree. They get the benefit of the doubt when they pull ALL manner of BS, by people like you. Because they carry badges and/or are possesed of "special training", people like you assume the best of intentions and pure motives to just about ANYTHING they do. That, sir, is an awful lot of power and I expect people is positions like this to be flawless, and when they aren't, IMO, it reflects on ALL of them.

In simple terms, government-types should be watched VERY carefully, and when they fvckup they should be pasted to the wall, no exceptions.
 

palehorse

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Originally posted by: HardWarrior
"What sort of power?" The same power that cops have, but only to a greater degree. They get the benefit of the doubt when they pull ALL manner of BS, by people like you. Because they carry badges and/or are possesed of "special training", people like you assume the best of intentions and pure motives to just about ANYTHING they do. That, sir, is an awful lot of power and I expect people is positions like this to be flawless, and when they aren't, IMO, it reflects on ALL of them.

In simple terms, government-types should be watched VERY carefully, and when they fvckup they should be pasted to the wall, no exceptions.
ok, so there is no room for human fallacy in all government workers? ya... right. When an individual screws up, they should be punished accordingly. And yes, they must be held to a higher standard than most. But, that does not mean that the other 100,000+ agents should be crucified when an individual amongst them screws up.

Again, in no way whatsoever do I excuse the actions of those indivudla officers who screwed up, but I refuse to sit quietly while people here disrespect the entire Federal law-enforcement body for the actions of two men.
 

ExpertNovice

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Originally posted by: conjur

I am glad to see that liberals are now joinging the conservatives in their stance against "Sexual deviants." Since you are new to the conservative cause don't fall into the trap of your old cause and hate someone because of their problems. Simply hate the actions and continue to stand up against them.

Congratulations.
 

HardWarrior

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Originally posted by: palehorse74
Originally posted by: HardWarrior
"What sort of power?" The same power that cops have, but only to a greater degree. They get the benefit of the doubt when they pull ALL manner of BS, by people like you. Because they carry badges and/or are possesed of "special training", people like you assume the best of intentions and pure motives to just about ANYTHING they do. That, sir, is an awful lot of power and I expect people is positions like this to be flawless, and when they aren't, IMO, it reflects on ALL of them.

In simple terms, government-types should be watched VERY carefully, and when they fvckup they should be pasted to the wall, no exceptions.
ok, so there is no room for human fallacy in all government workers? ya... right. When an individual screws up, they should be punished accordingly. And yes, they must be held to a higher standard than most. But, that does not mean that the other 100,000+ agents should be crucified when an individual amongst them screws up.

Again, in no way whatsoever do I excuse the actions of those indivudla officers who screwed up, but I refuse to sit quietly while people here disrespect the entire Federal law-enforcement body for the actions of two men.

Can you read with comprehension? Did I SAY that "100,000+ agents should be crucified?" If the best you can do is vomit super-heated inferences then go talk to someone else. And yeah, you'll "sit quietly while people here disrespect the entire Federal law-enforcement body for the actions of two men", because the way things are going you won't have anyone to talk to.