Dewalt, Makita, or Craftsman drills?? huge price diff, but why?

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Originally posted by: Evadman
Originally posted by: DrPizza
IIRC, Craftsman is built by whoever bids lower... craftsman doesn't make their own power tools.

The battery packs on most craftsman drills I have seen match ryobi's. I think that ryobi is making them. And they are not built by whoever is lower. I am pretty sure Sears is not owned by NASA :p

Anyway, Craftsman are just fine for most homeowners. They are not the most rebust, or the most powerful, but you get a lot for the $. For me, I prefer power and durability over price when it comes to powertools, so I go with dewalt or milwaukee. If craftsman switches to dewalt sourced drills, then I will switch to craftsman, as they will then match the other 30k with of tools in my house.

Alos, the color of the dewalt drill influences which drill I will bring where. Dewalt's can be seen from a ways away, so you don't leave them out in the grass like black & decker, craftsman, or milwaukee's.


how do you lose a red milwaukee?
 

NTB

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Another vote for Dewalt. My father makes his living building custom kitches and furniture, and these have been his tools of choice for as long as I can remember.

Nate
 

NTB

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When you guys refer to "Black and Decker", are you talking about the FireStorm stuff, or do they make another line?

Nate
 

NTB

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Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
Originally posted by: NTB
When you guys refer to "Black and Decker", are you talking about the FireStorm stuff, or do they make another line?

Nate

they make Dewalt

Seriously?

Nate
 

Evadman

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Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
how do you lose a red milwaukee?
They are not solit red, they are red and gray. Depending on where/how it is laid down, you can't see ithe red.
Originally posted by: NTB
When you guys refer to "Black and Decker", are you talking about the FireStorm stuff, or do they make another line?
Black and decker make:
black and decker (green/black)
firestorm (red/black)
dewalt (yellow)

The quality and price follows roughly that order too.
 
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Originally posted by: Evadman
Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
how do you lose a red milwaukee?
They are not solit red, they are red and gray. Depending on where/how it is laid down, you can't see ithe red.


everyone I've ever used or seen was all red or red with a black battery, but no matter...

 

NTB

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Originally posted by: Evadman
Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
how do you lose a red milwaukee?
They are not solit red, they are red and gray. Depending on where/how it is laid down, you can't see ithe red.
Originally posted by: NTB
When you guys refer to "Black and Decker", are you talking about the FireStorm stuff, or do they make another line?
Black and decker make:
black and decker (green/black)
firestorm (red/black)
dewalt (yellow)

The quality and price follows roughly that order too.

huh. Learn something new every day, I guess :)

Nate
 
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Originally posted by: NTB
Originally posted by: Evadman
Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
how do you lose a red milwaukee?
They are not solit red, they are red and gray. Depending on where/how it is laid down, you can't see ithe red.
Originally posted by: NTB
When you guys refer to "Black and Decker", are you talking about the FireStorm stuff, or do they make another line?
Black and decker make:
black and decker (green/black)
firestorm (red/black)
dewalt (yellow)

The quality and price follows roughly that order too.

huh. Learn something new every day, I guess :)

Nate

Dewalt has really come into it's own in the last 5 years or so.
 

Evadman

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Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
everyone I've ever used or seen was all red or red with a black battery, but no matter...
My milwaulkee stuff was all from the 96-98 year range. I picked up the 18v sawsall as one of my first 'good' power tools ever that I bought with my own money. It was 1/2 red 1/2 grey and I left it in quite a few places on accident. :p most of that (99.9%) is just me being stupid. I also picked up a 14.4v dewalt drill somewhere in there along with other stuff.

I was just saying I liked the yellow, not that it was the only reason I bought it. It was more of an 'added benefit'.

Originally posted by: Cattlegod
I'm seeing mixed reviews on all of the brands. Anyone have any other opinions?

Ridgid from Home Depot has a lifetime warranty, at at least they did. I haven't looked into them recently to see if that is still true, it may just have been a promotion. The Ridgid brand is like craftsman, except it is Home Depot's brand. I don't know who makes them.

I can't speak to the quality, because I have naver used them besides in demos, and it is a 'new' brand. But someone may have some input on them.

I used to work at Home Depot, so I heard tons from both homeowners and from contractors. Every brand has it's die hard 'ill never buy anything but <insert brand> and all other drills suck' people. Everyone has heard the story of the drill that his neighber bought that was <insert brand> and it broke within 30 minutes.

From experence, I am (and know I am :)) a Dewalt fan-boy. This comes from both personal experences using the dewalt tools:
I have everything from 9.6v drills to 24v monsters and the entire 18v set) to using almost every brand out there. (porder cable, milwaulkee, craftsman, ryobi, delta (which wasn't mention yet. hmm...), bosch, and tons of 'cheap' brands like harbor freight sells (drill master, emerson low end, etc)

to what customers told me at home depot:
The contractors would complain every time something broke, and I can tell you that I heard almost nothing about dewalt, porter cable and milwaulkee. I heard tons of complaints on ryobi, which had mroe complaints that I heard than any other brand I can think of. Homeowners complained about everything pretty much, but by and away most of them were abuse stories like 'I dropped it off my 2nd story roof onto my driveway and it broke, I demand a replacement' stories. But the dewalt and milwaukee consumer complains were much less than others, I think because they took abuse well.

I've dropped stuff off my roof before, and my dad ran over my 18v sawsall with the lawn tractor (withotu the blade :p) last weeked, and they all still work. the 14.4 still works, but the motor sparks a bit. I need to replace it. (only $18 bucks. woot!)

learn about some Black and decker, dewalt, firestorm and other batteries here. I got bored a while ago and destroyed some :)
 

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Originally posted by: Evadman
Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
everyone I've ever used or seen was all red or red with a black battery, but no matter...
My milwaulkee stuff was all from the 96-98 year range. I picked up the 18v sawsall as one of my first 'good' power tools ever that I bought with my own money. It was 1/2 red 1/2 grey and I left it in quite a few places on accident. :p most of that (99.9%) is just me being stupid. I also picked up a 14.4v dewalt drill somewhere in there along with other stuff.

I was just saying I liked the yellow, not that it was the only reason I bought it. It was more of an 'added benefit'.

Originally posted by: Cattlegod
I'm seeing mixed reviews on all of the brands. Anyone have any other opinions?

Ridgid from Home Depot has a lifetime warranty, at at least they did. I haven't looked into them recently to see if that is still true, it may just have been a promotion. The Ridgid brand is like craftsman, except it is Home Depot's brand. I don't know who makes them.

I can't speak to the quality, because I have naver used them besides in demos, and it is a 'new' brand. But someone may have some input on them.

I used to work at Home Depot, so I heard tons from both homeowners and from contractors. Every brand has it's die hard 'ill never buy anything but <insert brand> and all other drills suck' people. Everyone has heard the story of the drill that his neighber bought that was <insert brand> and it broke within 30 minutes.

From experence, I am (and know I am :)) a Dewalt fan-boy. This comes from both personal experences using the dewalt tools:
I have everything from 9.6v drills to 24v monsters and the entire 18v set) to using almost every brand out there. (porder cable, milwaulkee, craftsman, ryobi, delta (which wasn't mention yet. hmm...), bosch, and tons of 'cheap' brands like harbor freight sells (drill master, emerson low end, etc)

to what customers told me at home depot:
The contractors would complain every time something broke, and I can tell you that I heard almost nothing about dewalt, porter cable and milwaulkee. I heard tons of complaints on ryobi, which had mroe complaints that I heard than any other brand I can think of. Homeowners complained about everything pretty much, but by and away most of them were abuse stories like 'I dropped it off my 2nd story roof onto my driveway and it broke, I demand a replacement' stories. But the dewalt and milwaukee consumer complains were much less than others, I think because they took abuse well.

I've dropped stuff off my roof before, and my dad ran over my 18v sawsall with the lawn tractor (withotu the blade :p) last weeked, and they all still work. the 14.4 still works, but the motor sparks a bit. I need to replace it. (only $18 bucks. woot!)

learn about some Black and decker, dewalt, firestorm and other batteries here. I got bored a while ago and destroyed some :)
I had 1 week experience with a Ridgid 14.4v drill. It is a powerfull drill, but way too big & heavy for all day use, and it is not well balance (front heavy); therefore I returned it to Home Depot (no question asked). The dual batteries charger is very quick at charging (30 min) and it have a fan to cool down the batteries which is a great feature.

I had a 18v B&D dill that doesn't hold a charge for long and not balance as the Dewalt, Makita, and isn't any where near the balance of the Milwaukee.

I have played around with Makita 12v @ 3.5 lbs, 14.4v @ 3.7 lbs, 18v @ 3.3 lbs, Dewalt 14.4v @ 4.1 lbs impact drivers and I purchased the Makita 14.4 because it is the most balance tool for my hand.
 

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In general, my experience with craftsman power tools has been poor at best.
My 14v Dewalt cordless has held up very well despite that heritage though.
 

Cattlegod

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Thanks for the info guys. Looks like I should spring for the extra cash and get the 14.4 dewalt and maybe get like a 9.6v craftsman for misc easy things :)

Thanks guys.
 

franksta

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Any of these brands should be good. I'd go with the Craftsman of those choices.
 

Demon-Xanth

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One thing to note about Black and Decker:
My mom used to work for Mcculloch making chainsaw parts. They used to be some of the best out there. The owner sold the company to Black and Decker. They proceeded to DESIGN parts to to wear out. They took a metal fuel pump that worked reliably and replaced a piece with a plastic one that would wear out. The overall quality went into the shitter so far that all of the family that I had that worked for them left. You never see then any more because the design was made so bad that nobody used them.

B&D FTL.

Makita and Milwakee are made to be used by professionals. A B&D drill might last a home owner for 5 years, but a Makita will last a professional installer for about 5 years. (note: the batteries won't last that long)