Devastating Op-Ed piece on Fox News and the MSM's response to Fox

shira

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I'm posting this Op-Ed piece from yesterday's Washington Post because I think it's a pretty devastating assessment both of just how horrible Fox News is as a balanced news source and just how horrible the main stream media have been in giving Fox a pass. You can dismiss this piece as just a "liberal" screed by the former executive editor of the New York Times, but anyone who has seen Fox in action cannot possibly claim that it merely counterbalances alleged liberal bias in the news media.

I can already hear the catcalls from conservative ATPN posters. But if you make any claim to intellectual honesty, read through this piece and give it some thought. I think it's a very fair assessment of just what Fox News is doing, and it makes the MSM look pretty bad for not shining a bright light on Fox News' dishonesty.

Why don't honest journalists take on Roger Ailes and Fox News?

By Howell Raines
Sunday, March 14, 2010

One question has tugged at my professional conscience throughout the year-long congressional debate over health-care reform, and it has nothing to do with the public option, portability or medical malpractice. It is this: Why haven't America's old-school news organizations blown the whistle on Roger Ailes, chief of Fox News, for using the network to conduct a propaganda campaign against the Obama administration -- a campaign without precedent in our modern political history?

Through clever use of the Fox News Channel and its cadre of raucous commentators, Ailes has overturned standards of fairness and objectivity that have guided American print and broadcast journalists since World War II. Yet, many members of my profession seem to stand by in silence as Ailes tears up the rulebook that served this country well as we covered the major stories of the past three generations, from the civil rights revolution to Watergate to the Wall Street scandals. This is not a liberal-versus-conservative issue. It is a matter of Fox turning reality on its head with, among other tactics, its endless repetition of its uber-lie: "The American people do not want health-care reform."

Fox repeats this as gospel. But as a matter of historical context, usually in short supply on Fox News, this assertion ranks somewhere between debatable and untrue.

The American people and many of our great modern presidents have been demanding major reforms to the health-care system since the administration of Teddy Roosevelt. The elections of 1948, 1960, 1964, 2000 and 2008 confirm the point, with majorities voting for candidates supporting such change. Yet congressional Republicans have managed effective campaigns against health-care changes favored variously by Presidents Truman, Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon and Clinton. Now Fox News has given the party of Lincoln a free ride with its repetition of the unexamined claim that today's Republican leadership really does want to overhaul health care -- if only the effort could conform to Mitch McConnell's ideas on portability and tort reform.
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It is true that, after 14 months of Fox's relentless pounding of President Obama's idea of sweeping reform, the latest Gallup poll shows opinion running 48 to 45 percent against the current legislation. Fox invariably stresses such recent dips in support for the legislation, disregarding the majorities in favor of various individual aspects of the reform effort. Along the way, the network has sold a falsified image of the professional standards that developed in American newsrooms and university journalism departments in the last half of the 20th century.

Whatever its shortcomings, journalism under those standards aspired to produce an honest account of social, economic and political events. It bore witness to a world of dynamic change, as opposed to the world of Foxian reality, whose actors are brought on camera to illustrate a preconceived universe as rigid as that of medieval morality. Now, it is precisely our long-held norms that cripple our ability to confront Fox's journalism of perpetual assault. I'm confident that many old-schoolers are too principled to appear on the network, choosing silence over being used; when Fox does trot out a house liberal as a punching bag, the result is a parody of reasoned news formats.

My great fear, however, is that some journalists of my generation who once prided themselves on blowing whistles and afflicting the comfortable have also been intimidated by Fox's financial power and expanding audience, as well as Ailes's proven willingness to dismantle the reputation of anyone who crosses him. (Remember his ridiculing of one early anchor, Paula Zahn, as inferior to a "dead raccoon" in ratings potential when she dared defect to CNN?) It's as if we have surrendered the sword of verifiable reportage and bought the idea that only "elites" are interested in information free of partisan poppycock.

Why has our profession, through its general silence -- or only spasmodic protest -- helped Fox legitimize a style of journalism that is dishonest in its intellectual process, untrustworthy in its conclusions and biased in its gestalt? The standard answer is economics, as represented by the collapse of print newspapers and of audience share at CBS, NBC and ABC. Some prominent print journalists are now cheering Rupert Murdoch, the head of News Corp. (which owns the Fox network) for his alleged commitment to print, as evidenced by his willingness to lose money on the New York Post and gamble the overall profitability of his company on the survival of the Wall Street Journal. This is like congratulating museums for preserving antique masterpieces while ignoring their predatory methods of collecting.

Why can't American journalists steeped in the traditional values of their profession be loud and candid about the fact that Murdoch does not belong to our team? His importation of the loose rules of British tabloid journalism, including blatant political alliances, started our slide to quasi-news. His British papers famously promoted Margaret Thatcher's political career, with the expectation that she would open the nation's airwaves to Murdoch's cable channels. Ed Koch once told me he could not have been elected mayor of New York without the boosterism of the New York Post.

As for Fox's campaign against the Obama administration, perhaps the only traditional network star to put Ailes on the spot, at least a little, has been his friend, the venerable Barbara Walters, who was hosting This Week, ABC's Sunday morning talk show. More accurately, she allowed another guest, Arianna Huffington, to belabor Ailes recently about his biased coverage of Obama. Ailes countered that he should be judged as a producer of ratings rather than a journalist -- audience is his only yardstick. While true as far as it goes, this hair-splitting defense purports to absolve Ailes of responsibility for creating a news department whose raison d'etre is to dictate the outcome of our nation's political discourse.

For the first time since the yellow journalism of a century ago, the United States has a major news organization devoted to the promotion of one political party. And let no one be misled by occasional spurts of criticism of the GOP on Fox. In a bygone era of fact-based commentary typified, left to right, by my late colleagues Scotty Reston and Bill Safire, these deceptions would have been given their proper label: disinformation.

Under the pretense of correcting a Democratic bias in news reporting, Fox has accomplished something that seemed impossible before Ailes imported to the news studio the tricks he learned in Richard Nixon's campaign think tank: He and his video ferrets have intimidated center-right and center-left journalists into suppressing conclusions -- whether on health-care reform or other issues -- they once would have stated as demonstrably proven by their reporting. I try not to believe that this kid-gloves handling amounts to self-censorship, but it's hard to ignore the evidence. News Corp., with 64,000 employees worldwide, receives the tender treatment accorded a future employer.

In defending Glenn Beck on ABC, Ailes described him as something like Fox's political id, rather than its whole personality. It is somehow fitting, then, that Sigmund Freud's great-grandson, Matthew Freud, might help put mainstream American journalism back in touch with its collective superego.

This year, Freud, a public relations executive in London and Murdoch's son-in-law, condemned Ailes in an interview with the New York Times, saying he was "ashamed and sickened by Roger Ailes's horrendous and sustained disregard" of proper journalistic standards. Meanwhile, Gabriel Sherman, writing in New York magazine, suggests that Freud and other Murdoch relatives think Ailes has outlived his usefulness -- despite the fact that Fox, with its $700 million annual profit, finances News Corp.'s ability to keep its troubled newspapers and their skeleton staffs on life support. I know some observers of journalistic economics who believe that such insider comments mean Rupert already has Roger on the skids.

It is true that any executive's tenure in the House of Murdoch is situational. But grieve not for Roger Ailes. His new contract signals that when the winds of televised demagoguery abate, he will waft down on a golden parachute. By News Corp. standards, he deserves it. After all, Ailes helped make Murdoch the most powerful media executive in the United States.

As for Fox News, lots of people who know better are keeping quiet about what to call it. Its news operation can, in fact, be called many things, but reporters of my generation, with memories and keyboards, dare not call it journalism.
 

boomerang

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One network, just one doesn't have their tongues jammed up Obama's ass and it's a fucking travesty.

Give me a break.
 

Corn

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Allow me to summarize this opinion piece: Waaaaahhhhhhh! *sniffle*

I don't watch Fox so I could care less. Let the sheeple feed at whatever trough of slop they prefer, whether Fox, MSNBC, or ABC.
 

Fern

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I'm posting this Op-Ed piece from yesterday's Washington Post because I think it's a pretty devastating assessment both of just how horrible Fox News is as a balanced news source and just how horrible the main stream media have been in giving Fox a pass. You can dismiss this piece as just a "liberal" screed by the former executive editor of the New York Times, but anyone who has seen Fox in action cannot possibly claim that it merely counterbalances alleged liberal bias in the news media.
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Yeah, I'd dismiss it.

Fox's news shows are almost all 'opinion shows', they are not news shows. E.g., talking about bias or whatever and Glenn beck is downright stupid. Glenn beck is not a news journalists, neither is Hannity or O'Rielly (nor is Matthews, Olbermann, Shultz, or Madow).

AFAIK, the only two Fox 'news' shows are Bret Baier and Sheppard (whatever his last name is).

I.e., he's looking at the Op-Ed page and complaining about bias and opinion found there.

I wonder why he doesn't also make the complaint about MSNBC. I find them worse (as far as being cheerleaders) than Fox, just slanted Pro Obama.

Fern
 

Corn

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Yeah, I'd dismiss it.

I wonder why he doesn't also make the complaint about MSNBC. I find them worse (as far as being cheerleaders) than Fox, just slanted Pro Obama.

Fern

Don't be coy, you know exactly why he doesn't complain about MSNBC.
 

sandorski

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Don't be coy, you know exactly why he doesn't complain about MSNBC.

Fox is clearly the Spokesperson for the Republican Party. MSNBC may be Left biased, but it is not the Spokesperson for the Democratic Party.

Fail on Dude.
 

SirStev0

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Yeah, I'd dismiss it.

Fox's news shows are almost all 'opinion shows', they are not news shows. E.g., talking about bias or whatever and Glenn beck is downright stupid. Glenn beck is not a news journalists, neither is Hannity or O'Rielly (nor is Matthews, Olbermann, Shultz, or Madow).

AFAIK, the only two Fox 'news' shows are Bret Baier and Sheppard (whatever his last name is).

I.e., he's looking at the Op-Ed page and complaining about bias and opinion found there.

I wonder why he doesn't also make the complaint about MSNBC. I find them worse (as far as being cheerleaders) than Fox, just slanted Pro Obama.

Fern
Smith. Shepard Smith. You could have just guessed and got that one right.
 

boomerang

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Yeah, I'd dismiss it.

Fox's news shows are almost all 'opinion shows', they are not news shows. E.g., talking about bias or whatever and Glenn beck is downright stupid. Glenn beck is not a news journalists, neither is Hannity or O'Rielly (nor is Matthews, Olbermann, Shultz, or Madow).

AFAIK, the only two Fox 'news' shows are Bret Baier and Sheppard (whatever his last name is).

I.e., he's looking at the Op-Ed page and complaining about bias and opinion found there.

I wonder why he doesn't also make the complaint about MSNBC. I find them worse (as far as being cheerleaders) than Fox, just slanted Pro Obama.

Fern
This is it. These guys either won't or can't distinguish between news and opinion. Call it all opinion if you want. So what? The network exists and they're pulling in better numbers than everyone else. There must be a reason for it. Yes, I know it's because Fox viewers aren't as smart as you guys. Keep thinking that if it works for you.

Might as well call it what it is. It's grade school thinking. Johnny's not playing the game the way I want it to be played so I'm going to run and tell the teacher.

It's juvenile. Not everyone is going to agree with your view of the world.

Every time things start looking dicey for the Obama thugs, we get another rant about Fox News. A bunch of unqualified kids in the white house and their arrested development followers bleating their bleeding hearts out.

I'll say one thing, you guys are predictable.
 

sandorski

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This is it. These guys either won't or can't distinguish between news and opinion. Call it all opinion if you want. So what? The network exists and they're pulling in better numbers than everyone else. There must be a reason for it. Yes, I know it's because Fox viewers aren't as smart as you guys. Keep thinking that if it works for you.

Might as well call it what it is. It's grade school thinking. Johnny's not playing the game the way I want it to be played so I'm going to run and tell the teacher.

It's juvenile. Not everyone is going to agree with your view of the world.

Every time things start looking dicey for the Obama thugs, we get another rant about Fox News. A bunch of unqualified kids in the white house and their arrested development followers bleating their bleeding hearts out.

I'll say one thing, you guys are predictable.

Fox News is predictably not a News organization.
 

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One network, just one doesn't have their tongues jammed up Obama's ass and it's a fucking travesty.

Give me a break.

Fox News is garbage but I find it amusing how MSNBC, CNN, ABC, etc...which are all equally as bad are given a free pass.

they hate fox because it is different.

yes, it is biased towards the left and in favor of the right, but so what?

the left sees no problem when MSNBC or CNN engage in blatant editorializing with figures like chris matthews, but when conservatives do it OHHH NO!!!

its downright hypocrisy.
 

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When asked by a late night talk show host about the reasons for his show's popularity, Jerry Springer replied- "Crap sells."

Which pretty much covers Fox news and commentary, too...

"Obama thugs"? Exquisite denial and obfuscation. Call me when they go to war on false pretenses, out CIA agents, use gay male prostitutes as media shills, move Helen Thomas to the back of the media when she asks questions they dont want to answer, and a few other little things perpetrated by your heroes in the Bush Admin, boomerang...
 

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When asked by a late night talk show host about the reasons for his show's popularity, Jerry Springer replied- "Crap sells."

Which pretty much covers Fox news and commentary, too...

"Obama thugs"? Exquisite denial and obfuscation. Call me when they go to war on false pretenses, out CIA agents, use gay male prostitutes as media shills, move Helen Thomas to the back of the media when she asks questions they dont want to answer, and a few other little things perpetrated by your heroes in the Bush Admin, boomerang...


News per se is very hard to find. It's mostly about selling a POV and entertainment. I remember the guy who blew up when the Republican won MA. That shot any credibility he had. If you look, you'll probably find some clear sign of the lack an attempt of objective reporting on the part of most TV reporters. I'm sure there are exceptions, but it's more of a problem than ever.
 

Zebo

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Have to say I watch Fox. Very hot babes and they are all biased. Why does this article ignore CNN, MSNBC, etc? Why only focus on FOX? Just the facts Murrow aint around any more anywhere except @ PBS news HOUR which I fall asleep to in about 18 seconds to Jim's voice.
 
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This is it. These guys either won't or can't distinguish between news and opinion. Call it all opinion if you want. So what?

The "so what" is it masquerades as legitimate news. Fair and balanced news even. If it was called what it actually is, the Fox Propaganda channel, then no one would have a problem. They are manipulating news, not reporting it. Roger Ailes and Rupert Murdoch both deserve to DIAF for the damage they are doing this country. This isn't about left or right, partisanship, or any other BS smokescreen defenders try to throw up to obfuscate the issue. This is about Fox exploiting and twisting journalism into a profit and special interest vehicle.
 

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Fox is clearly the Spokesperson for the Republican Party. MSNBC may be Left biased, but it is not the Spokesperson for the Democratic Party.

Fail on Dude.

I'm not really sure that you could say any one channel is just a total mouthpiece for a certain party, but a person calling Fox News biased and then not accepting that MSNBC is biased just as bad shows a lack of objectivity on the matter. I remember watching Fox News a few years back and thinking I couldn't possible understand how such biased crap could make it on TV the way they couldn't even admit to G. W. Bush's glaring faults, but just flip on over to MSNBC these days and several of the commentators are just as unwilling to admit Obama has a single fault. I mean watching both stations it sometimes scares me how biased some of the commentators on BOTH stations can be without being thrown off the air for obvious impartiality. For example I was at a McDonalds a month or two ago when Sarah Palin was giving her speech to the tea party people and they had two TVs one on each wall and one was playing MSNBC and the other was playing Fox News. Watching the two stations coverage you would swear they were covering two completely different speeches. So far as Fox News was concerned this was pretty much like Jesus giving his sermon on the mount while the commentators at MSNBC were trying to hold back laughter as if all her comments were total idiocy and called her a liar on several occasions.