Detriot's sucking water from Canada without permission for 44 years.

[Amoreena]

HAMILTON, Ontario ? Detroit has possibly been stealing Canadian water for 44 years.
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It seems the Motor City?s drinking-water intake pipe extends about 100 yards across the international boundary in the Detroit River, and it?s been siphoning as much as 32 billion gallons a year since 1964 without a water-taking permit.

?The City of Detroit was unfamiliar with Ontario requirements for water takings and has never had a permit to take water,? the Ontario Ministry of the Environment told the Hamilton Spectator.

Alerted to the water grab when Detroit conducted a screening under the Canadian Environmental Assessment Act for maintenance work on its southwest water treatment plant in 2006, the ministry now plans to exempt the city from provincial regulations.


http://www.freep.com/article/2...NEWS01/81223020/?imw=Y

 

[ElFenix]

the ministry now plans to exempt the city from provincial regulations

good old canadian trait of backing down

 

[PottedMeat]

Originally posted by: ElFenix

the ministry now plans to exempt the city from provincial regulations

good old canadian trait of backing down

Heh, if they wanted to take Detroit as compensation I doubt anyone's going to stop them.

 

[Tim]

"Been stealing our water, Eh?"

 

[Pacemaker]

"WE GOT 'EM!!"

 

[Pocatello]

Detroit sucking, why is this news?

 

[DisgruntledVirus]

Originally posted by: PottedMeat

Originally posted by: ElFenix

the ministry now plans to exempt the city from provincial regulations

good old canadian trait of backing down

Heh, if they wanted to take the state as compensation I doubt anyone's going to stop them.

I agree.

 

[Scouzer]

Originally posted by: ElFenix

the ministry now plans to exempt the city from provincial regulations

good old canadian trait of backing down

...

Read into Canadian Arctic Passage sovereignty... we're not backing down from that.

Backing down over something silly like this is what you do for your friends and allies

 

[DisgruntledVirus]

Originally posted by: Scouzer

Originally posted by: ElFenix

the ministry now plans to exempt the city from provincial regulations

good old canadian trait of backing down

...

Read into Canadian Arctic Passage sovereignty... we're not backing down from that.

Backing down over something silly like this is what you do for your friends and allies

So stealing is okay as long as it's only from your friends and allies, okay got it.

 

[Scouzer]

Originally posted by: DisgruntledVirus

Originally posted by: Scouzer

Originally posted by: ElFenix

the ministry now plans to exempt the city from provincial regulations

good old canadian trait of backing down

...

Read into Canadian Arctic Passage sovereignty... we're not backing down from that.

Backing down over something silly like this is what you do for your friends and allies

So stealing is okay as long as it's only from your friends and allies, okay got it.

lol wtf... 100 yards in the same river... that's not stealing... that's semantics

 

[imported_Imp]

Does it matter which side of a river you take water from... I mean, you're still taking the same amount of volume. It's not like someone set up a dam at the 'border'.

 

[Gand1]

I understand the whole point of international borders but...

It's still only a 300 ft difference in the same river! Water 300 ft away from one point to another is still water from the same river. It's not like 300 ft make a pollution difference nor would it really be stealing since its the same water.

So, just cut the pipe shorter for fucks sake!

 

[Crono]

Originally posted by: Scouzer

Originally posted by: DisgruntledVirus

Originally posted by: Scouzer

Originally posted by: ElFenix

the ministry now plans to exempt the city from provincial regulations

good old canadian trait of backing down

...

Read into Canadian Arctic Passage sovereignty... we're not backing down from that.

Backing down over something silly like this is what you do for your friends and allies

So stealing is okay as long as it's only from your friends and allies, okay got it.

lol wtf... 100 yards in the same river... that's not stealing... that's semantics

That and "the City of Detroit was unfamiliar with Ontario requirements". I doubt it was intentional theft, and Ontario Ministry of the Environment is not dumb enough to make a big deal over nothing.

 

[Iron Woode]

Originally posted by: PottedMeat

Originally posted by: ElFenix

the ministry now plans to exempt the city from provincial regulations

good old canadian trait of backing down

Heh, if they wanted to take Detroit as compensation I doubt anyone's going to stop them.

we already did that back in 1812.

damn American surrender monkeys.

😉

 

[DisgruntledVirus]

Originally posted by: Crono

Originally posted by: Scouzer

Originally posted by: DisgruntledVirus

Originally posted by: Scouzer

Originally posted by: ElFenix

the ministry now plans to exempt the city from provincial regulations

good old canadian trait of backing down

...

Read into Canadian Arctic Passage sovereignty... we're not backing down from that.

Backing down over something silly like this is what you do for your friends and allies

So stealing is okay as long as it's only from your friends and allies, okay got it.

lol wtf... 100 yards in the same river... that's not stealing... that's semantics

That and "the City of Detroit was unfamiliar with Ontario requirements". I doubt it was intentional theft, and Ontario Ministry of the Environment is not dumb enough to make a big deal over nothing.

While I agree with you both, I still feel like debating for some reason 😛

By that logic I can go to Canada, rob a bank, and claim "I was unfamiliar with Ontario requirements to not rob banks".... 😛

 

[boomerang]

Originally posted by: Scouzer

Originally posted by: DisgruntledVirus

Originally posted by: Scouzer

Originally posted by: ElFenix

the ministry now plans to exempt the city from provincial regulations

good old canadian trait of backing down

...

Read into Canadian Arctic Passage sovereignty... we're not backing down from that.

Backing down over something silly like this is what you do for your friends and allies

So stealing is okay as long as it's only from your friends and allies, okay got it.

lol wtf... 100 yards in the same river... that's not stealing... that's semantics

No kidding. But these days, I'm surprised there's not going to be a lawsuit. Amazed actually.

 

[imported_Imp]

Originally posted by: Crono

Originally posted by: Scouzer

Originally posted by: DisgruntledVirus

Originally posted by: Scouzer

Originally posted by: ElFenix

the ministry now plans to exempt the city from provincial regulations

good old canadian trait of backing down

...

Read into Canadian Arctic Passage sovereignty... we're not backing down from that.

Backing down over something silly like this is what you do for your friends and allies

So stealing is okay as long as it's only from your friends and allies, okay got it.

lol wtf... 100 yards in the same river... that's not stealing... that's semantics

That and "the City of Detroit was unfamiliar with Ontario requirements". I doubt it was intentional theft, and Ontario Ministry of the Environment is not dumb enough to make a big deal over nothing.

While I see no harm in any of this, Detroit's excuse is pretty stupid.

 

[Paladin3]

Originally posted by: DisgruntledVirus

Originally posted by: Crono

Originally posted by: Scouzer

Originally posted by: DisgruntledVirus

Originally posted by: Scouzer

Originally posted by: ElFenix

the ministry now plans to exempt the city from provincial regulations

good old canadian trait of backing down

...

Read into Canadian Arctic Passage sovereignty... we're not backing down from that.

Backing down over something silly like this is what you do for your friends and allies

So stealing is okay as long as it's only from your friends and allies, okay got it.

lol wtf... 100 yards in the same river... that's not stealing... that's semantics

That and "the City of Detroit was unfamiliar with Ontario requirements". I doubt it was intentional theft, and Ontario Ministry of the Environment is not dumb enough to make a big deal over nothing.

While I agree with you both, I still feel like debating for some reason 😛

By that logic I can go to Canada, rob a bank, and claim "I was unfamiliar with Ontario requirements to not rob banks".... 😛

If you think that is even REMOTELY the same thing as taking water 300 feet too far up the SAME RIVER, then, sure, go ahead.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Originally posted by: Pocatello
Detroit sucking, why is this news?

Yep. Detriot has sucked for a long time.

 

[Crono]

Originally posted by: DisgruntledVirus

Originally posted by: Crono

Originally posted by: Scouzer

Originally posted by: DisgruntledVirus

Originally posted by: Scouzer

Originally posted by: ElFenix

the ministry now plans to exempt the city from provincial regulations

good old canadian trait of backing down

...

Read into Canadian Arctic Passage sovereignty... we're not backing down from that.

Backing down over something silly like this is what you do for your friends and allies

So stealing is okay as long as it's only from your friends and allies, okay got it.

lol wtf... 100 yards in the same river... that's not stealing... that's semantics

That and "the City of Detroit was unfamiliar with Ontario requirements". I doubt it was intentional theft, and Ontario Ministry of the Environment is not dumb enough to make a big deal over nothing.

While I agree with you both, I still feel like debating for some reason 😛

By that logic I can go to Canada, rob a bank, and claim "I was unfamiliar with Ontario requirements to not rob banks".... 😛

Your logic is flawed. A better example would be an apple tree that extends across your neighbors property and yours, and there is no fence between the properties. I think you could be forgiven for taking an apple if it was a little over your property line and you didn't know. It doesn't mean it's good to do so, but it would be counterproductive if your neighbor decided to get in an argument over the apple and decided to sue to you.

 

[Alone]

Some of you people on here bitch when people sue over such stupid shit, but when we don't sue, you bitch anyway. 😕

 

[DisgruntledVirus]

Originally posted by: Paladin3

Originally posted by: DisgruntledVirus

Originally posted by: Crono

Originally posted by: Scouzer

Originally posted by: DisgruntledVirus

Originally posted by: Scouzer

Originally posted by: ElFenix

the ministry now plans to exempt the city from provincial regulations

good old canadian trait of backing down

...

Read into Canadian Arctic Passage sovereignty... we're not backing down from that.

Backing down over something silly like this is what you do for your friends and allies

So stealing is okay as long as it's only from your friends and allies, okay got it.

lol wtf... 100 yards in the same river... that's not stealing... that's semantics

That and "the City of Detroit was unfamiliar with Ontario requirements". I doubt it was intentional theft, and Ontario Ministry of the Environment is not dumb enough to make a big deal over nothing.

While I agree with you both, I still feel like debating for some reason 😛

By that logic I can go to Canada, rob a bank, and claim "I was unfamiliar with Ontario requirements to not rob banks".... 😛

If you think that is even REMOTELY the same thing as taking water 300 feet too far up the SAME RIVER, then, sure, go ahead.

While I'll concede my example was different (obviously), I was simply illustrating a point.

What if I am on a boat on the river, 100 yards in to Canada's territory and commit a crime? Can I use that excuse then?

As I stated before, I agree that it's really not a big deal but Detroit gave a stupid reason for it. If a person gave any kind of stupid reason like that, they would be laughed at and sued to all hell. So while I don't really see why this is even news (it's pretty pointless and stupid IMO), not knowing the law and regulations for an area is not an excuse for not obeying the laws and regulations.

 

[DisgruntledVirus]

Originally posted by: Crono

Your logic is flawed. A better example would be an apple tree that extends across your neighbors property and yours, and there is no fence between the properties. I think you could be forgiven for taking an apple if it was a little over your property line and you didn't know. It doesn't mean it's good to do so, but it would be counterproductive if your neighbor decided to get in an argument over the apple and decided to sue to you.

I agree with the stupid to sue part, but if a person did something along the same lines they would be sued most likely. It would be counter-productive, and the water is drawn from the same river so in reality it doesn't matter where the source of the pipe is. Taking river from one side of the river vs the other side of the river doesn't matter, because it's being taken from the same river.

All I'm saying is:

1: Detroit gave a shitty excuse
2: it's a slow day in the news room, and at my job so I feel like debating stupid things 😛
3: if a person did something along the same lines, they would most likely get sued

That's all 😛

 

[Fingolfin269]

Georgia is trying to steal part of Tennessee so this is small potatoes. After all, Detroit is already stealing our tax money so why not let Canada chip in with some water?! 😛

 

[Kntx]

Your logic is flawed. A better example would be an apple tree that extends across your neighbors property and yours, and there is no fence between the properties. I think you could be forgiven for taking an apple if it was a little over your property line and you didn't know. It doesn't mean it's good to do so, but it would be counterproductive if your neighbor decided to get in an argument over the apple and decided to sue to you.

So did anyone else see that episode of Married with Children??