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[Red Storm]

I wonder if this has anything to do with some of the changes they announced for OS X, because during the keynote they talked about using the processor more efficiently. I wonder if they've implemented some of the same functionality in iOS to get similar results.

Different software, different hardware, I don't really see how that could be.

 

[RampantAndroid]

Different software, different hardware, I don't really see how that could be.

They've done work either way

 

[Mopetar]

Different software, different hardware, I don't really see how that could be.

The underlying software (Unix) is the same. When the iPhone first came out, Apple said it was running a stripped down version of OS X. It also uses a lot of the same frameworks (e.g. AppKit) as OS X, so I would imagine that the underlying OS has a lot in common.

Depending on how the software is accomplishing the improved battery life it might even be hardware agnostic. Even if it's not, Apple would only need to optimize for a few different hardware configurations as they only use Intel and ARM CPUs, and even then only a limited number of models.

I would be rather foolish of them not to incorporate similar features into the iPhone, especially if the cost of adding them is low.

 

[Munky]

Wow...flash back to 1984!

Oh, you mean when I could only run one program at a time, and had to close it before the OS allowed me to run others?

Or you mean that in 1984 people could already see information on the screen without opening an "app" that hides everything else, but Apple only took 30 years to invent it themselves?

 

[Puddle Jumper]

The underlying software (Unix) is the same. When the iPhone first came out, Apple said it was running a stripped down version of OS X. It also uses a lot of the same frameworks (e.g. AppKit) as OS X, so I would imagine that the underlying OS has a lot in common.

Depending on how the software is accomplishing the improved battery life it might even be hardware agnostic. Even if it's not, Apple would only need to optimize for a few different hardware configurations as they only use Intel and ARM CPUs, and even then only a limited number of models.

I would be rather foolish of them not to incorporate similar features into the iPhone, especially if the cost of adding them is low.

The main difference is A6 is very primitive compared to Haswell, the introverts they mentioned could very well be related to the new low power idle states Intel has added.

 

[Mopetar]

The main difference is A6 is very primitive compared to Haswell, the introverts they mentioned could very well be related to the new low power idle states Intel has added.

It doesn't look as though they're doing anything that's chip specific, at least not according to this Ars article.

If they're using anything, it's probably the timer coalescing functionality that's described in the article. If anything that's just making a smarter scheduler which doesn't rely too much on the underlying hardware.

I'm just curious about what they've done that battery life has improved (granted this is based on an anecdotal report from one user so who knows what the actual battery life performance difference amounts to) because normally newer versions of an OS tend to be more demanding on the battery as the incorporate new features and functionality. Considering some of the 3D and blur effects that iOS is now doing, one would expect battery life to decrease as those are somewhat computationally intensive to do.

If the battery life is just as good or better, they've obviously done something to improve the efficiency of the OS. I'm just curious as to what exactly it is that they've done.

 

[Germanic]

Does anyone see the Android influence on iOS 7?

This iOS 7 Beta Glitch Lets You Create Functional Nested Folders

http://appadvice.com/appnn/2013/06/this-ios-7-beta-glitch-lets-you-create-functional-nested-folders

There are many more glitches found on iOS 7 and it really makes me think that Apple is shifting towards an Android-like experience.

 

[MrX8503]

I hope the nested folders is removed with the final release. I prefer the old folder style where the screen splits open. The bubble square is ugly. They could have kept the folder split and get rid of the linen texture inside.

 

[akugami]

Oh, you mean when I could only run one program at a time, and had to close it before the OS allowed me to run others?

Or you mean that in 1984 people could already see information on the screen without opening an "app" that hides everything else, but Apple only took 30 years to invent it themselves?

Well, first the post you are quoting me is from way back in April...about 2 months ago.

Second, it was in response to a comment that suggested Apple was "stealing/copying" widgets. Apple has had widget type applets for a very very long time now, which is where my comments came in. Your comments go on a complete side tangent as the comment was regarding widgets.


Were there rough edges regarding the original MacOS? Of course. That was when a GUI was nascent technology. That doesn't change the fact that Apple had what could be argued the most advanced GUI in existence at the time and that Apple created GUI paradigms that were copied and in use by everyone even today. And yes, MacOS was based on work by PARC which Apple paid for (not stole) and from which XEROX made a handsome profit off of.

 

[Mopetar]

Does anyone see the Android influence on iOS 7?

There's a lot of borrowing for all over the place. When I first saw some of the pictures it reminded me of WebOS, especially the card-based multi-tasking. The notification stuff is similar to Android, but it was already that way, and they did move towards a flatter design style a la Windows Phone.

Not really sure where they got the flamboyant color choice from, but someone mentioned that kind of color scheme is really popular in Asian countries, so if they want to target the market there to a larger degree it may explain it.

I think it still needs some time to bake though. The design has some nice ideas and concepts behind it, but it needs more time to evolve. They probably didn't announce all of the new features yet since the new hardware is still a few months away, so there may still be a few surprises.

 

[saratoga172]

I hope the nested folders is removed with the final release. I prefer the old folder style where the screen splits open. The bubble square is ugly. They could have kept the folder split and get rid of the linen texture inside.

Haven't seen anyone mention this but its something that drives me nuts. I much prefer the older style too. Just re-theme it to match the current style. The new design feels like a bit too much. Feels like I'm waiting for the view to open/close every time I launch something in a folder. Especially separate folders. Older style was much much faster.