Design Industry is Brainwashed by MACs!!!

abhong

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interviewing fashion designers and graphic designers...
most seem to say that they are proficient in MACS... boast about their G4's G5's...
still cant draw crap... and takes hours doing so...

seems like no matter the equipment, it is how well one really knows the program and it's functions...

why the heck is all design schools teaching on Macs?

is there any clear cut way of the ultimate dual in Mac vs PC?
 

abhong

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me too... but i do have to admit... they do look mighty puurty...

kinda like the pc and the fact that i can customize it my way...

don't quite like Macs OS either... but do looooove the iPod Mini...
 

abhong

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iRiver is a great choice too...
my colleague has iRiver...

i guess i too am brainwashed by the iPod frenzy...

seems that all in the design industry carries iPods...

 

Topweasel

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Why does everyone use Windows when there are hundreds of othr possibilities that are just as good? People use what they are famila with. Once long ago a mac was better for Vieo and audio processing, that time is past but now so many of those types of people used them its all they know, then new people come in and are instructed on how to use them. This creates a visicious circle.
 

Hacp

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100s of possibilites just as good? I doubt that there are hundreds of possabilites just as good to the average user.
 

imported_Lucifer

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I use both platforms. My mac is my main machine, while my PC is my gaming machine.

I took journalism in high school, and they were using Powermac G4 466mhz machines. I heard that they got rid of those machines and got new iMac G5's.

As for Mac vs. PC. You can always build a PC faster than a Mac.
 

Hacp

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Rumor has it that apple is comming out with dual-dualcore G5s. Take that Hyperthreaded Dual core P-D EEs!
 

imported_Lucifer

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Originally posted by: Hacp
Rumor has it that apple is comming out with dual-dualcore G5s. Take that Hyperthreaded Dual core P-D EEs!

Yup. I read this on Mac rumors. I seriously do hope that the new G5's will be dual core, so they can at least catch up! :) Linky
 

abhong

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really, it comes down to the user and how much he/she knows the applications.

kinda like when my "mentor" in 9-ball told me, it's not the cue, it's the skill of the player... and whipped my ass using the back end of the cue.

still dedicated true PC at heart...

there's a case that looks Mac-ish... Lian Li PC-V1200...
 

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Originally posted by: Truenofan
and they said their going with intel for all their new cpus....lol
They said the transition will start in ~2006 and will end at ~2007. I heard they were going to start with their low-end macs first like the iBook all the way up to the Power Macs and Xserve which will be last.
 

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Originally posted by: Xephian
Originally posted by: Truenofan
and they said their going with intel for all their new cpus....lol
They said the transition will start in ~2006 and will end at ~2007. I heard they were going to start with their low-end macs first like the iBook all the way up to the Power Macs and Xserve which will be last.

I hope not. C'mon Centrino PowerBook!
 

batmanuel

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Originally posted by: Darien
Originally posted by: Xephian
Originally posted by: Truenofan
and they said their going with intel for all their new cpus....lol
They said the transition will start in ~2006 and will end at ~2007. I heard they were going to start with their low-end macs first like the iBook all the way up to the Power Macs and Xserve which will be last.

I hope not. C'mon Centrino PowerBook!

Believe it. Although in 2006, Intel will have out their dual core Yonah Pentium Ms, so you may see the Powerbook being upgraded from the old and busted G4 architecture to the new hotness of the Pentium M dual core. At 2GHz+, these new P-Ms should be able to hold their own against desktop Athlon 64 X2 chips, so even without Altivec they will trash the G4s pretty hard when it comes to performance, not to mention battery life.

 

batmanuel

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Originally posted by: Hacp
Rumor has it that apple is comming out with dual-dualcore G5s. Take that Hyperthreaded Dual core P-D EEs!

I think the Intel transition has put a stop to the current G5 platform development. You might see some small revisions come out that were already in the pipeline, but I wouldn't expect anything major. There might be a few small speed bumps in the G5 line, then towards the end of 2006 we should see a Conroe-based PowerMac. Eventually, you might see a dual dualcore Xeon PowerMac, but not until 2007 at least.
 

thirdlegstump

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Mac OS is the perfect creative environment. Why?

It's not cluttered like Windows.

Interface is simple and beautiful.

User doesn't have to be a technician to work it, does not need to worry about viruses, spyware or getting hacked.

Superior A/V and graphics capabilities.

Integrates perfectly with iPOD.

Turn it on and it works everytime.

nuff said.
 

Fox5

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Originally posted by: batmanuel
Originally posted by: Darien
Originally posted by: Xephian
Originally posted by: Truenofan
and they said their going with intel for all their new cpus....lol
They said the transition will start in ~2006 and will end at ~2007. I heard they were going to start with their low-end macs first like the iBook all the way up to the Power Macs and Xserve which will be last.

I hope not. C'mon Centrino PowerBook!

Believe it. Although in 2006, Intel will have out their dual core Yonah Pentium Ms, so you may see the Powerbook being upgraded from the old and busted G4 architecture to the new hotness of the Pentium M dual core. At 2GHz+, these new P-Ms should be able to hold their own against desktop Athlon 64 X2 chips, so even without Altivec they will trash the G4s pretty hard when it comes to performance, not to mention battery life.

SSE3 anyone? Well, besides that the P-M has a stronger FPU than the G4's Altivec, but SSE3 probably puts P-M abount on par with G5's Altivec.

Edit: Actually I changed my mind, a P4 with SSE3 would about match the G5's Altivec, unless the next version of P-M has a pumped up FPU, it won't be matching an Altivec, though general FPU performance should be much better and used in many more situations than Altivec is anyhow.
 

kitkat22

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In all honesty I think Apple made a smart move by moving to Intel. Could they have done better? Maybe, but they aren't morons and this probably fit their business model better than any other company out there.

I agree with the OP about profeciency in applicable software for each platform. Both OS's are good and usable and do what they were designed to do very well. So the real differences lie in the software. Mac has great software, but if you took a pro at Final Cut on the Mac and a Pro at Premiere you would ultimately get the same things done. Maybe one is more intuitive than the other, or you could get one done faster, but in the end is there a difference?
 

imported_Lucifer

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I just wish they chose AMD instead of Intel. :(:| But oh well. I think the Intel processors going into the new Macs will probably be great. :)
 

thirdlegstump

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Originally posted by: cscpianoman
SNIP, but in the end is there a difference?

Absolutely. When you're working in a creative and design field, there's much data exchange between clients and partners so you want to stick with standard software that everyone else in the field is using. There's nothing less professional than saying "Oh, I do video in Windows so I cannot accept Finalcut Pro projects." Hence the reason why many stick with a certain platform regardless of the other's technical superiority. While you can do conversion etc., most pros won't have time for that and would rather deal with someone who can already do the job without the hassles. This is where the Mac comes strong..in design and fashion anyway.