Derek Jeter would be a good soccer player

[Gibson486]

http://www.boston.com/sports/blogs/thebuzz/2010/09/derek_jeter_adm.html

 

[tboo]

Saw this on ESPN. The slow-mo clearly shows he wasnt hit anywhere on his arm. The slo-mo also shows him looking at the ump to see his reaction before he starts acting like it hurt.

 

[dfuze]

Not a Yankee fan, but I'm guessing the pain was probably from the bat reverberating in his hand. I'm all for helping your own team, but no reason he couldn't be honest and say it didn't hit him.

 

[mvbighead]

No, there wasn't any significant pain. He peeks over at the up looking for a reaction. Clearly he's faking.

 

[rcpratt]

Haha, I was just watching this clip. What a douchebag. At least the Rays won.

 

[dfuze]

Didn't know he looked to the ump (link blocked here at work), just on the news last night it focused on how it hit squarely on the bottom of the bat.

 

[edro]

It was for a run?
He did what most players would have to get an extra run.

 

[sjwaste]

It was all over sportscenter. In the postgame interview, he admitted it didn't hit him, that the reaction was due to "vibration... and acting."

 

[SP33Demon]

Great job Jeter, now when you actually get hit the umps may not believe you. I don't blame him though, if you were batting 50 points under your career average you'd do the same thing.
http://nybaseballdigest.com/?p=28619

The sneaky truth that no one is talking much about is….Jeter’s batting average is down over 50 points from last year. And that includes the recent hot streak.

The stats go on. His R/C is the lowest since 1995, which really means, his lowest ever. His BABIP is his second lowest ever. His OPS+ is his second lowest ever. And his OBP is the lowest of his full-time career.

But two stats interest me the most. Jeter’s O-swing percent—percentage of pitches a batter swings outside the strike zone—is the highest of his career…by a long shot at 28.9%. And the second stat is that Jeter’s pitch per AB is the second lowest of his career. Which, to put it succinctly, means that Jeter is swinging at more pitches, and a lot of them are pitcher’s pitches, not hitter’s pitches.

Which would explain his low bating average and which explain why his LD% is the lowest of his career, while his GB% is the highest of his career. And why Jeter’s walk percentage is down from 10.1% last season to 7.9% this season.

Well, why is Jeter jumping at pitches? The most logical guess is that, at age 36, Jeter’s bat speed is finally slowing down. And Jeter’s wFB (runs above average per fastball) numbers are indicative of just that. Last year, Jeter’s wFB was 27.8. This year, it’s 2.2.

In an article that was astonishingly prescient, last February, theYankeeU warned of a Jeter decline. In an article quoting WFAN’s Sweeney Murti that talked about the decline of Roberto Alomar at age 34, theYankeeU compares that article to Derek Jeter.

But when some players lose it, there’s nothing ‘averaged out’ about it. Their bat slows down, and they can no longer get around on the fastball. So they adjust and start sitting on breaking pitches. Pitchers notice this, adjust accordingly, and give the player a steady diet of nothing that he can handle. They challenge him with hard strikes in the zone (that he has to swing at) and the breaking stuff gets put in places where the batter can’t do much with it. Next thing you know, he’s having an awful season and most fans can’t figure out why.

Sound familiar? Diving at breaking stuff out of the strike zone? Not being able to get around on the fastball? Let’s face it; Jeter’s bat speed is declining.

^That was written in August

From last Saturday:
http://www.northjersey.com/sports/0..._but_will_Girardi_move_him_down_in_order.html

Jeter’s 324 grounders represent an ongoing struggle to lift the ball with authority: In 2002, his line drive ratio was nearly 25 percent. This year, that ratio has sunk to 15.9. More than 66 percent of Jeter’s batted balls are on the ground, a career high.

The data raises three questions for Girardi to consider.

Is Jeter tired? It’s possible, even probable, given that at 36, he’s currently the majors’ oldest shortstop. If Girardi believes fatigue is a factor, he could take the bold step of benching him again today, although back-to-back absences certainly would embarrass the captain. So far, Girardi has showed no inclination to provoke the most popular Yankee of this generation.

 

[Flipped Gazelle]

I've seen many players fake HBP over the years... why's Jeter being singled out?

 

[BlahBlahYouToo]

More reason that baseball should allow teams to challenge calls with video replay.

 

[SP33Demon]

I've seen many players fake HBP over the years... why's Jeter being singled out?

Because he's supposed to be a class act ballplayer/captain on the most famous team in baseball and didn't live up to the reputation. But keep in mind he was benched last weekend and he most likely will be dropped to 7th in the order next year (once moron manager Girardi is gone). He is so desperate to get on base he's willing to fake his way on.

 

[Jeeebus]

kinda sad for anyone raising a child that plays or will plays team sports someday. We try so hard to ingrain into our kids that winning isn't everything and what's most important is playing hard by the rules, and then they get to see shit like this. I agree - this isn't exactly something you can single Jeter out on.

But it's a sad commentary on society when Jeter can be quoted for saying

"It hit the bat," Jeter said. "He told me to go to first base. I'm not going to tell him I'm not going to first, you know."

How am I supposed to tell my kid to do otherwise when the guy getting paid millions basically laughs off the notion that he should act honestly?

 

[purbeast0]

meh i see absolutely nothing wrong with what he did.

this is basically the same thing in basketball when the player knows it went off of him yet he points as though the ball should belong to them. you see it after every play when 2 players fight for a ball and it goes out of bounds, they are both pointing in opposite directions.

same thing as football when the ball hits the ground on a play that looks like it COULD be a completion and they play on as if they caught it, or a fumble and everyone is simply pointing in their teams direction.

the only thing is, in those 2 sports they use replays to determine these situations...

but don't act like this is new behavior at the professional level, it has been going on since professinoal sports was invented.

and those crying about how it is bad for role models .... well i hate to break it to you, but at hte professional level, it IS all about winning, whether you tought your kids that or not growing up. at their level, winning IS everything and it IS the most important thing, not simply playing your hardest.

 

[Flipped Gazelle]

Because he's supposed to be a class act ballplayer/captain on the most famous team in baseball and didn't live up to the reputation. But keep in mind he was benched last weekend and he most likely will be dropped to 7th in the order next year (once moron manager Girardi is gone). He is so desperate to get on base he's willing to fake his way on.

Meh, I dumped his "class act ballplayer/captain" schtick when A-Rod joined the Yanks. Jeter froze him out and basically made the whole situation uncomfortable for A-Rod, to the detriment of the team.

 

[Flipped Gazelle]

More reason that baseball should allow teams to challenge calls with video replay.

No thanks, games are already too long.

 

[M0oG0oGaiPan]

trying to be honest abe in sports is stupid.

 

[Sentrosi2121]

I'm a parent of two children ages 5 and 2. The only role model I want them to look up to is me. Not someone on TV. Not someone playing sports. Not a movie star. Me.

 

[BlahBlahYouToo]

No thanks, games are already too long.

so you want another incident like the "perfect game" that was, or wasn't.

 

[SP33Demon]

No thanks, games are already too long.

Wrong.

A recent study by Outside the Lines of 184 games this season revealed that an average of just 1.3 calls per game were close enough to merit a review. So this theory that replay would cause all games to end at 2 a.m. is total, old-school, over-rationalized baloney.

Several managers even predicted that the ump-in-the-booth plan might even make games move faster than under the current replay system. In fact, what managers liked most about having a designated replay umpire was that calls could be reviewed -- and fixed -- faster than you could say, "Don Denkinger."

"I think it would really streamline the process," said the Angels' Mike Scioscia. "I don't know what the average delay is now on the home-run reviews … but if you had somebody in the booth who had instant access to the replay, the umps [on the field] wouldn't even have to look at it. So we could do it in -- what? -- 20 seconds?"

Well, maybe not 20. But we could get it done before 2 a.m. That's for darned sure.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/story?columnist=stark_jayson&page=rumblings100916

 

[Flipped Gazelle]

Wrong.

It's not "wrong". It's an opinion.

I never said - nor implied - that "... replay would cause all games to end at 2 a.m..."

Try thinking in something other than extremes.

 

[purbeast0]

It's not "wrong". It's an opinion.

I never said - nor implied - that "... replay would cause all games to end at 2 a.m..."

Try thinking in something other than extremes.

yea, and add to the fact of that, that if games are already too long ... then current times + 2 minutes = even longer, which still means it is too long...

(in his opinion)

 

[mugs]

meh i see absolutely nothing wrong with what he did.

this is basically the same thing in basketball when the player knows it went off of him yet he points as though the ball should belong to them. you see it after every play when 2 players fight for a ball and it goes out of bounds, they are both pointing in opposite directions.

same thing as football when the ball hits the ground on a play that looks like it COULD be a completion and they play on as if they caught it, or a fumble and everyone is simply pointing in their teams direction.

the only thing is, in those 2 sports they use replays to determine these situations...

but don't act like this is new behavior at the professional level, it has been going on since professinoal sports was invented.

and those crying about how it is bad for role models .... well i hate to break it to you, but at hte professional level, it IS all about winning, whether you tought your kids that or not growing up. at their level, winning IS everything and it IS the most important thing, not simply playing your hardest.

It's dishonest and unsportsmanlike, but you "see absolutely nothing wrong with what he did" because everyone else does it? I guess you just have low standards for what is right and what is wrong.

When I played high school tennis we called our own lines and it never caused a problem. That's sportsmanship. Winning by lying and cheating is not a win. Intentionally deceiving the officials is cheating in baseball, soccer, football, basketball, or any other sport.

 

[Flipped Gazelle]

so you want another incident like the "perfect game" that was, or wasn't.

No, but rather than challenges, I'd prefer "monitored oversight", where a near-instantaneous review could be made without interrupting the flow (such as it is) of the game. Similar to the end of college football games.

Even better, how about umpires do a better job? The umpire should be able to figure out by the sound that the ball clearly did not hit the player.

 

[digiram]

kinda sad for anyone raising a child that plays or will plays team sports someday. We try so hard to ingrain into our kids that winning isn't everything and what's most important is playing hard by the rules, and then they get to see shit like this. I agree - this isn't exactly something you can single Jeter out on.

But it's a sad commentary on society when Jeter can be quoted for saying

How am I supposed to tell my kid to do otherwise when the guy getting paid millions basically laughs off the notion that he should act honestly?

Having lived through close to half or maybe even half my life now, I think I'm not going to raise my kids to do whatever the hell you can to get ahead in life. Screw everyone else.