Depression.

[zCypher]

What do you think about depression? Where does it come from, what type of problem is it? I've heard lots of crap about chemical imbalances, but is there actually any empirical evidence backing it up? Are all these anti-depressant pill companies out for a big buck only?

Also - are you, or anyone you know depressed, or have you been ever? What happened? What were some key behavioural traits you witnessed? How did you and/or yours cope with it? Get over it? Lose friendship(s)/relationship(s) over it? Witness any relationship/correlation between depression and violence? How about depression and substance (particularly alcohol) abuse?

Just curious. Been having pretty depressing days lately, and although I'm not usually the most happy-go type, I didn't think I was highly pessimistic either. I thought it might be interesting to inquire to some of the above and see what kind of stuff the 'thinkers' of ATOT (*snicker*) come up with. I need to be cheered up... heh. Hopefully this thread stays somewhat on track though (if it goes anywhere to begin with - my threads have the tendency to get 0 replies).

wee...

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

I have some seasonal thing.

 

[SherEPunjab]

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt
I have some seasonal thing.

4 times a year?

 

[brunswickite]

I dont think its a chemical imbalance, i think thats total bs, just a reason to sell pills, pharmeceutical companies need to make money some how.

 

[zCypher]

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt
I have some seasonal thing.

Elaborate please.

 

[Kadarin]

Working hypothesis: Depression in some cases is caused by the school system artificially inflating self-esteem in students, who subsequently run into the brick wall of real life.

Given the recent proliferation of anti-depressant pharmeceuticals and folks who claim to have "chemical imbalances", one can only wonder how humanity managed to survive all those millenia where such drugs were not available. It's a damn good thing those helpful pharmaceutical companies are there for us...

 

[SlowSS]

Originally posted by: brunswickite
I dont think its a chemical imbalance, i think thats total bs, just a reason to sell pills, pharmeceutical companies need to make money some how.

Just wondering if you ever had depression or knew of someone who went through a depression.

I have and it isn't bs. Depression and chemical imbalance completely changes individual's personality and moods.
It has a devestating effect and can ultimately induce self-inflicted pain or even suicides, if not treated.

So yes, it does exist, and it is a serious matter.

 

[CraigRT]

I don't think I am...

There isn't much that really puts a smile on my face right now.. but that doesn't make me depressed.

positive outlook is all one needs.

 

[Random Variable]

I'm only depressed when I read posts in this forum.

 

[zCypher]

Thanks for the interesting replies. I like your hypothesis, Astaroth33.

 

[brunswickite]

I dont think its a chemical imbalance, i think thats total bs, just a reason to sell pills, pharmeceutical companies need to make money some how.

I am not 100 percent sure bout this of course, but i know psycological disorders like shchizophrenia are claimed to be checmical imbalances in the brain, teh pills that are given to these patients just dull there mind and basically make them lose feeling. Also it is a starnge coinidence that the prognosis on schizophrenia in 3rd world countries, are greater then tehy are in the US. Mad in America -Whitikar is a good read.

of course the thread is on depression, but i think the same logic could be used

 

[render]

 

[brunswickite]

also i didnt say depression is bs, i am saying the method of treating it is

 

[zCypher]

Originally posted by: render
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Extremely interesting, thoughtful and insightful comment. Thank you for your invaluable contribution.

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: zCypher

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt
I have some seasonal thing.

Elaborate please.

It's called Seasonal Affected Disorder. During the fall, I get a little depressed. During the winter, I get really depressed. Spring brings around good feelins again, and I'm find during summer.

 

[Mrburns2007]

Originally posted by: brunswickite
I dont think its a chemical imbalance, i think thats total bs, just a reason to sell pills, pharmeceutical companies need to make money some how.

Think about it this way, there are about a billion chemicals in your body and brain and they are suppose to whatever they were design to do properly. The fact that they usually work correctly is amazing. So it's certainly plausible that one of these chemicals doesn't work right and that a chemical imbalance occurs.


BTW: I've worked with a person who was bipolar and they are much better when there on there medication, when they go off there meds it's like watching a train wreck, not fun.

 

[illusion88]

I knew someone who was Bipolar. Only knew her for a while. She left before I could really get to know her.

As for me. Not a day goes by without me looking up through the hole I'm in. I guess I started digging and never figured out how to stop.

 

[kuk]

I don't like the look of the results ...
BTW, I voted yes.

 

[brunswickite]

just look at the way society has treated "crazy" people in the last 200 years

in the 1800's the "treatments" were bleeding, wrap in cold blankets, starve them.
early 1900's - 1950's treaments there was sterilzations, lobotomys(destroying the frontal cortex so no complex thinking can be done), peopel became zombies,
1950-1970's - pills, that destroyed your brain, turned peopel into zombies
1970's - presnet- different pills, but argument is same the chemical imbalance arguemnt.

waht i am saying in that all these "treatments" were said to have worked during there time frames. i am saying that in antoehr 50 years tehre will be another reason why someone is "crazy" or "depressed" right now the pharmecetical companies and the psycologists are working together for each otehrs benefit, pharmecuticals companies get there $$$$, and psycologists get there never ending desre to be looked at as a Science.

 

[pulse8]

Originally posted by: brunswickite
just look at the way society has treated "crazy" people in the last 200 years

in the 1800's the "treatments" were bleeding, wrap in cold blankets, starve them.
early 1900's - 1950's treaments there was sterilzations, lobotomys(destroying the frontal cortex so no complex thinking can be done), peopel became zombies,
1950-1970's - pills, that destroyed your brain, turned peopel into zombies
1970's - presnet- different pills, but argument is same the chemical imbalance arguemnt.

waht i am saying in that all these "treatments" were said to have worked during there time frames. i am saying that in antoehr 50 years tehre will be another reason why someone is "crazy" or "depressed" right now the pharmecetical companies and the psycologists are working together for each otehrs benefit, pharmecuticals companies get there $$$$, and psycologists get there never ending desre to be looked at as a Science.

The fact that you keep swapping the "H" and the "E" in every word possible takes every ounce of credibility from it.

 

[brunswickite]

i am a bad typer, i cnat help it, i try to type fast but i cant

 

[zCypher]

Originally posted by: brunswickite
i am a bad typer, i cnat help it, i try to type fast but i cant

 

[Kadarin]

Originally posted by: Mrburns2007

Originally posted by: brunswickite
I dont think its a chemical imbalance, i think thats total bs, just a reason to sell pills, pharmeceutical companies need to make money some how.

Think about it this way, there are about a billion chemicals in your body and brain and they are suppose to whatever they were design to do properly. The fact that they usually work correctly is amazing. So it's certainly plausible that one of these chemicals doesn't work right and that a chemical imbalance occurs.


BTW: I've worked with a person who was bipolar and they are much better when there on there medication, when they go off there meds it's like watching a train wreck, not fun.

Still begs the question of why we need all these anti-depressant pharmaceuticals now. Once again I ask, how did we survive all those millenia, given so much "chemical imbalance"? I don't deny that it exists, but something tells me that much of the epidemic is exaggerated for the purpose of selling more prescriptions.

 

[pulse8]

Originally posted by: brunswickite
i am a bad typer, i cnat help it, i try to type fast but i cant

ahhhhh...

I thought you were just over-doing the "teh" thing.

You're forgiven.

 

[brunswickite]

Originally posted by: pulse8

Originally posted by: brunswickite
i am a bad typer, i cnat help it, i try to type fast but i cant

ahhhhh...

I thought you were just over-doing the "teh" thing.

You're forgiven.

thanks
me fail english? thats unpossible.