Depp vs Heard, almost resolution depending on appeals.

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Since I have not seen any thread on this, and is news worthy, figured I would hijack a link from out of another thread.

Depp won all filings, Heard won one. Her attorneys plan to appeal, but, I have seen this kind of relationship very closely, mostly with my son and my granddaughter's mother and step mother.

I have never found myself to be in a situation, where I felt the need to record it, if it was so intense that I would be fearful of my well being.


Edit: Thanks Amol S, for getting me to click on your link, I used it for this one.
 

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Since I have not seen any thread on this, and is news worthy, figured I would hijack a link from out of another thread.

Depp won all filings, Heard won one. Her attorneys plan to appeal, but, I have seen this kind of relationship very closely, mostly with my son and my granddaughter's mother and step mother.

I have never found myself to be in a situation, where I felt the need to record it, if it was so intense that I would be fearful of my well being.


Edit: Thanks Amol S, for getting me to click on your link, I used it for this one.
Your welcome. :)
 
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"Since I have not seen any thread on this, and is news worthy, ... "

You haven't because it isn't.
You think the perpetual "amount of news" you post is?

A man just won a defamation case against abuse, who may have been an alcoholic, drug using and destructive person. I am from Michigan, where the men don't get all too fair of a shot in "Friend of the Court"
 
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I didn't really pay attention to any of this, but it seemed like a prime opportunity for the internet to release it's misogyny, and the trial itself seemed like it was forum shopping by the plaintiff to pick the most favorable state to sue in.
 

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I didn't really pay attention to any of this, but it seemed like a prime opportunity for the internet to release it's misogyny, and the trial itself seemed like it was forum shopping by the plaintiff to pick the most favorable state to sue in.
Guess you have never had to deal with narcissistic people before, intimately. With histories of manipulation, lies, false accusations, and abuse.
 

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I find it surprising that Depp won in the US, when he lost a very similar case in the UK. Given that it's far, far easier to win a libel case (as the plaintiff) in the UK than the US.

He came across like a walking disaster of a man, though. I wonder what the process was by which he got that way? Just the hazards of celebrity and the "situationally-acquired narcissism" that it brings? Or over-indulgence in alcohol?
 

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I find it surprising that Depp won in the US, when he lost a very similar case in the UK. Given that it's far, far easier to win a libel case (as the plaintiff) in the UK than the US.

He came across like a walking disaster of a man, though. I wonder what the process was by which he got that way? Just the hazards of celebrity and the "situationally-acquired narcissism" that it brings? Or over-indulgence in alcohol?
I could live quite comfortably on Johnny's wine bills.
 
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I find it surprising that Depp won in the US, when he lost a very similar case in the UK. Given that it's far, far easier to win a libel case (as the plaintiff) in the UK than the US.

He came across like a walking disaster of a man, though. I wonder what the process was by which he got that way? Just the hazards of celebrity and the "situationally-acquired narcissism" that it brings? Or over-indulgence in alcohol?
Walking disaster or not, enough testimony to show Heard lied and faked the photo evidence
 

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Walking disaster or not, enough testimony to show Heard lied and faked the photo evidence
yes, faked pretty much everything. she was a disaster on the witness stand as were most of the witnesses her legal team called. Depp is by no means an angel, but clearly the abused in this particular instance.
 

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They were both a mess, to what degree who did what to whom, who the fuck knows, but one thing is for sure to my mind, she should not have been throwing rocks with that opinion piece, the subsequent Sun debacle was predictable, and she wittingly or not, screwed Depp's career over with that shit. So he hit back. And now she fucked instead. Was he supposed to NOT?

Anyway, the only really interesting piece of information here is that of the court of public opinion, cause with everything given from that trial, how can 99.8% of the public court be on team Depp?... that doesnt seem even remotely balanced.

So what is the social media mechanisms that ended up with that result, thats what I wanna know. How easily manipulative is it?
 
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Walking disaster or not, enough testimony to show Heard lied and faked the photo evidence


But this is the problem, she did not identify Depp by name in the article. This sets a very bad precedence.
 
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Having ignored it for most of the time it was going on (two super-privileged people, both of whom seemed to be pretty messed-up, having a public row - I've got more pressing things to think about), now I think about it, it seems possible this verdict matters, regardless of one's opinion of Depp.

Maybe this article is correct that the real importance is over the wider topic of what can be said in the press about the rich and powerful. I've always thought the US was much better at that than the UK, where our libel laws have many times protected powerful figures and helped them get away with bad, even criminal, behavior (most infamously, Robert Maxwell). Not good if the US goes the same way as we have.

 

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You think the perpetual "amount of news" you post is?

A man just won a defamation case against abuse, who may have been an alcoholic, drug using and destructive person. I am from Michigan, where the men don't get all too fair of a shot in "Friend of the Court"
Exactly. He thinks that he's the official ATPN news source, and thinks he's also witty.

He's not.

Most of his thread titles have nothing to do with the subject matter.
 

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But this is the problem, she did not identify Depp by name in the article. This sets a very bad precedence.
Examine the evidence, it is quite clear, writes op-ed in 2018 referencing over 2 years ago. They were married at that time.

But let's take Jan 6th, the speech didn't reference by name what to do......
 

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Ya'll know there's a huge as fuck thread in OT for this right? Also @Lost_in_the_HTTP is right, this shit isn't news, it's celebrity bullshit.
Forgive the not using multi quote, don't feel like it atm.

I looked at lunch time, that HUGE AS FUCK thread had 79 replies, and more than half were of the shitting on the bed reference back in 2020.

But please continue.
 
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They were both a mess, to what degree who did what to whom, who the fuck knows, but one thing is for sure to my mind, she should not have been throwing rocks with that opinion piece, the subsequent Sun debacle was predictable, and she wittingly or not, screwed Depp's career over with that shit. So he hit back. And now she fucked instead. Was he supposed to NOT?

Anyway, the only really interesting piece of information here is that of the court of public opinion, cause with everything given from that trial, how can 99.8% of the public court be on team Depp?... that doesnt seem even remotely balanced.

So what is the social media mechanisms that ended up with that result, thats what I wanna know. How easily manipulative is it?

I thought everyone, (most everyone here) wanted Trump on record. You know to give actual testimony under oath.

That's all this man has done, was to put forward evidence of the truth, not trial by public opinion. He even stated as much.

Having been witness to and experienced female narcissism, that has turned my son into something he was never, I think it matters. It has taken My wife and I 4 LONG years to become guardians of our grandaughters. The men are not always the abusers.
 
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Typical.

Funny that the Mr. Mackey as a kid episode was on last night.