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dems want to read your email

Would love to have a link to the current proposal as well as current info on who supports/opposes it.
 
Yeah mannnnnn..

It's those crazy dems.


People like you really need to seek help. It's simply not a good indication of mental health to have such a hate and fixation on a group of people. It's clearly blinded you from realizing that both parties support such things.

What's more retarded is the fact that you bring this up and I would just hazard to guess that when all the patriot act debates were raging, you were one of the bush ball huggers saying things like ' well, if you've got nothing to hide...'

Open your fucking eyes, please. For the sake of everybody on the board.
 
zsdersw said:
Of course the modern left wants to expand government powers. What you're forgetting (probably on purpose) is that the right wants to as well.
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Yep, one of the more troubling ways the two parties are more alike than different. Neither party has shown much respect for the 4th Amendment lately, consistently dismantling our system of checks and balances that keep the United States from becoming another Soviet-style police state. I'm all in favor of law enforcement being able to monitor electronic communications and data, but only after documenting probable cause and getting court approval. Even though this can be inconvenient for the 99% of good cops, it's necessary to prevent abuse by the bad apples. Anything less is un-American.
 
Bowfinger said:
Yep, one of the more troubling ways the two parties are more alike than different. Neither party has shown much respect for the 4th Amendment lately, consistently dismantling our system of checks and balances that keep the United States from becoming another Soviet-style police state. I'm all in favor of law enforcement being able to monitor electronic communications and data, but only after documenting probable cause and getting court approval. Even though this can be inconvenient for the 99% of good cops, it's necessary to prevent abuse by the bad apples. Anything less is un-American.
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This. I expect the internet backlash to be similar to SOPA if this thing has legs.
 
Bowfinger said:
Yep, one of the more troubling ways the two parties are more alike than different. Neither party has shown much respect for the 4th Amendment lately, consistently dismantling our system of checks and balances that keep the United States from becoming another Soviet-style police state. I'm all in favor of law enforcement being able to monitor electronic communications and data, but only after documenting probable cause and getting court approval. Even though this can be inconvenient for the 99% of good cops, it's necessary to prevent abuse by the bad apples. Anything less is un-American.
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Good post.
 
airdata said:
Yeah mannnnnn..

It's those crazy dems.


People like you really need to seek help. It's simply not a good indication of mental health to have such a hate and fixation on a group of people. It's clearly blinded you from realizing that both parties support such things.

What's more retarded is the fact that you bring this up and I would just hazard to guess that when all the patriot act debates were raging, you were one of the bush ball huggers saying things like ' well, if you've got nothing to hide...'

Open your fucking eyes, please. For the sake of everybody on the board.
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a crazy dem is writing this bill. Who should I blame for it then?
 
michal1980 said:
a crazy dem is writing this bill. Who should I blame for it then?
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You mistakenly indicted the left in the OP. This specific bill is the fault of a Democrat. Your statement about the left is correct, but as I said.. you're intentionally ignoring the right's efforts to do the same.
 
Bowfinger said:
Yep, one of the more troubling ways the two parties are more alike than different. Neither party has shown much respect for the 4th Amendment lately, consistently dismantling our system of checks and balances that keep the United States from becoming another Soviet-style police state. I'm all in favor of law enforcement being able to monitor electronic communications and data, but only after documenting probable cause and getting court approval. Even though this can be inconvenient for the 99% of good cops, it's necessary to prevent abuse by the bad apples. Anything less is un-American.
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+1
 
Bowfinger said:
Yep, one of the more troubling ways the two parties are more alike than different. Neither party has shown much respect for the 4th Amendment lately, consistently dismantling our system of checks and balances that keep the United States from becoming another Soviet-style police state. I'm all in favor of law enforcement being able to monitor electronic communications and data, but only after documenting probable cause and getting court approval. Even though this can be inconvenient for the 99% of good cops, it's necessary to prevent abuse by the bad apples. Anything less is un-American.
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Well said

dank69 said:
This. I expect the internet backlash to be similar to SOPA if this thing has legs.
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Hope so.
 
zsdersw said:
You mistakenly indicted the left in the OP. This specific bill is the fault of a Democrat. Your statement about the left is correct, but as I said.. you're intentionally ignoring the right's efforts to do the same.
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More accurate would be that he's trying to equate the entirety of the left with the actions of a single individual. By his logic I can claim that the entirety of the right leaks classified information that puts lives at risk because of the actions of Darrell Issa (who has committed 3 classified leaks in the last year).
 
A Senate proposal touted as protecting Americans' e-mail privacy has been quietly rewritten, giving government agencies more surveillance power than they possess under current law.

CNET has learned that Patrick Leahy, the influential Democratic chairman of the Senate Judiciary committee, has dramatically reshaped his legislation in response to law enforcement concerns. A vote on his bill, which now authorizes warrantless access to Americans' e-mail, is scheduled for next week.
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This is total bullchit. You can be arrested by the FBI at any time, for any reason or no reason at all.

This is yet another shoe to drop and erosion of 4th Amendment protection.

When Obama leaves office, the Socialists will be able to enter your home with no warrant or reason, seize everyone and their possessions without cause and look for reasons to prosecute... Kind of like they are going to do with your Facebook, Youtube, Gmail, Skype, Live Drive, Dropbox, accounts....without notice or consent....just go reading your private messages and look for a reason to prosecute.

Total BS.

🙁
 
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MeowKat said:
This is total bullchit. You can be arrested by the FBI at any time, for any reason or no reason at all.

This is yet another shoe to drop and erosion of 4th Amendment protection.

When Obama leaves office, the Socialists will be able to enter your home with no warrant or reason, seize everyone and their possessions without cause and look for reasons to prosecute... Kind of like they are going to do with your Facebook, Youtube, Gmail, Skype, Live Drive, Dropbox, accounts....without notice or consent....just go reading your private messages and look for a reason to prosecute.

Total BS.

🙁
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Aren't you the guy that decries cussing in OT? Do you think when you arrive at the Pearly Gates and God is reviewing this particular post of yours he is going to overlook the bolded parts above? If so, is it because you think God is not smart enough to know what the acronym BS stands for? Do you think he is not clever enough to realize that you just switched the "c" out for an "s." Or do you think he will rate your performance based solely on your adherence to the letter of the law as opposed to the spirit of it? I will pray for your soul.
 
dank69 said:
Aren't you the guy that decries cussing in OT? Do you think when you arrive at the Pearly Gates and God is reviewing this particular post of yours he is going to overlook the bolded parts above? If so, is it because you think God is not smart enough to know what the acronym BS stands for? Do you think he is not clever enough to realize that you just switched the "c" out for an "s." Or do you think he will rate your performance based solely on your adherence to the letter of the law as opposed to the spirit of it? I will pray for your soul.
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:awe:
 
And people cannot understand why there is such a rift between the parties in DC.

Just look at this thread, people are slinging shit on both sides. The people as a whole should be united against all those in DC who support this no matter what side we are on. Not bickering like kids on a playground. The patriot act was a joke and now this just expands on it. Every American citizen should be angry as hell about this no matter what side you are on.

Now, with that being said, if you think sending private information through email or posting on FB was ever secure, safe or truly private, you are an idiot.
 
dank69 said:
Aren't you the guy that decries cussing in OT? Do you think when you arrive at the Pearly Gates and God is reviewing this particular post of yours he is going to overlook the bolded parts above? If so, is it because you think God is not smart enough to know what the acronym BS stands for? Do you think he is not clever enough to realize that you just switched the "c" out for an "s." Or do you think he will rate your performance based solely on your adherence to the letter of the law as opposed to the spirit of it? I will pray for your soul.
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Curse words? I dont see any. :whiste:

We must stand against this intrusion into our online lives.
 
dank69 said:
Would love to have a link to the current proposal as well as current info on who supports/opposes it.
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It says the bill is up for final vote next week, in this day and age why the hell is it that we can't access and read the entire contents of the bill and all amendments both accepted and rejected on a .gov site???? All I have found is the original bill and "Latest Major Action: 5/17/2011 Referred to Senate committee. Status: Read twice and referred to the Committee on the Judiciary."

If the Cnet article is accurate I would say that is a "major" fucking action regarding the bill.
 
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