Dems vow not to negotiate with economic terrorists.

[Incorruptible]

Yes, the right wing radicals complained the link did not specificially say terrorists. Since there about 11 thousand links with terrorist I reposted it.

And complained about your War on Christmas thread where your link does not mention the word war, nor does it even suggest there is a war.

And if its not changed I will complain to a higher mod.

There only doing to you what you do to them. I love the hyperbole, if the y are "right wing radicals" then you are a left wing radical

 

[lotus503]

There only doing to you what you do to them. I love the hyperbole, if the y are "right wing radicals" then you are a left wing radical

We know you love the hyperbole most drama queens do.

 

[Incorruptible]

We know you love the hyperbole most drama queens do.

I only use the hyperbole when they use it, I use it against them

 

[lotus503]

I only use the hyperbole when they use it, I use it against them

You are delusional a liar or simply trolling, possible it's all three.

Almost everything you post is hyperbole. In fact if you posted anything decent with thought the forum would probably collapse from shock.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

I will say that the belief that the other party is our primary/only problem doesn't seem to be limited to Republicans.

If there's one problem I see as insoluble is the hate one side has for the other.

 

[Tom]

Obama and Dems have set America up for a financial stroke. All that has to happen is interest rates to return to historical average and America is crushed. Obama quite liked the idea too. He's so obvious in his machinations

even if that's ture, the debt ceiling has nothing to do with it.

raising the debt ceiling is the United States paying its already agreed to bills. that's all.

there's nothing to negotiate about it.

 

[Charles Kozierok]

If there's one problem I see as insoluble is the hate one side has for the other.

One side?

 

[trenchfoot]

And the race baiter shows up to add his boys to the milkshake in the middle.

BTW, the last time I checked there were 535 Elected Officials in Washington that have every right to be heard, not just Obama and the Democrats so get over it.

LOL, Yeh, I guess reminding you of what all of those right wing talking heads spouted over and over again into your eager beaver ears in their not-too-obvious-yet obvious way with their slanted and "screaming whispers" for four years is pretty tiring and frustrating for you. Well, too bad. You conservatives preached it and clandestinely stumped on it ad nauseum for four years in your sleazy attempt at getting rid of Obama after his first term.

You own it. Embrace it. You've got four more years to hint at it, and wink at it and whisper about it. Enjoy it. It's all yours.

As for your last comment, I agree with you wholeheartedly, so there's nothing to "get over".

 

[michal1980]

even if that's ture, the debt ceiling has nothing to do with it.

raising the debt ceiling is the United States paying its already agreed to bills. that's all.

there's nothing to negotiate about it.

wrong.

big lie that the Obama and the MSM are trying to sell to the public.

If you can't pay your bills, you cut your spending until your income matches or exceeds your spending.

you dont go out and increase your borrowing. Unless you want to be broke/poor for a long time.

 

[lotus503]

wrong.

big lie that the Obama and the MSM are trying to sell to the public.

If you can't pay your bills, you cut your spending until your income matches or exceeds your spending.

you dont go out and increase your borrowing. Unless you want to be broke/poor for a long time.

Someone should have told that to Reagan when he borrowed from Japan to escalate the arms race.

We're broke and going to be poor for a long time, it took just over 30 years of shitty policy to get us here.

 

[michal1980]

Someone should have told that to Reagan when he borrowed from Japan to escalate the arms race.

We're broke and going to be poor for a long time, it took just over 30 years of shitty policy to get us here.

Reagan is dead. Bush is out of office. Taxes have been raised. And we are still spending more then we are taking in.

The first step in recovery is admitting you have a problem. The second is to stop digging the hole. The longer we dig the harder it will be to fill back in.

 

[jackstar7]

wrong.

big lie that the Obama and the MSM are trying to sell to the public.

If you can't pay your bills, you cut your spending until your income matches or exceeds your spending.

you dont go out and increase your borrowing. Unless you want to be broke/poor for a long time.

It's the debt based on the prior spending. It's got nothing to do with the future.

You want to cut spending, have at it. You still need to NOT default on your obligations and crash the global economy in a fit of petulance.

 

[lotus503]

Reagan is dead. Bush is out of office. Taxes have been raised. And we are still spending more then we are taking in.

The first step in recovery is admitting you have a problem. The second is to stop digging the hole. The longer we dig the harder it will be to fill back in.

perfect we can cut defense %80ish percent to start, we already have the most powerful military in the world. Then you can call all of those defense contractors and servicemen lazy for not working.

Simple men don't understand complex problems, you think your kitchen table budget balancing applies to the government of the United States.

It doesn't.

 

[michal1980]

perfect we can cut defense %80ish percent to start, we already have the most powerful military in the world. Then you can call all of those defense contractors and servicemen lazy for not working.

Simple men don't understand complex problems, you think your kitchen table budget balancing applies to the government of the United States.

It doesn't.

we should cut the military. I dont know if by 80%. but we spend too much on it.


Oh yes, please call my plan simple, because I didn't post a 1000 page bill infront of you. OMG I'm so hurt.

P.S.

My simple plan is far better then your current do nothing, continue on as if everything is ok, lets not cut back anywhere plan, because cutting government is bad.

 

[michal1980]

It's the debt based on the prior spending. It's got nothing to do with the future.

You want to cut spending, have at it. You still need to NOT default on your obligations and crash the global economy in a fit of petulance.

bla bla bla.

theres no way to cut any spending with out some sort of threat to the system.

I doubt the republicans will get anywhere, because they go no cuts from the liar in chief with Cliff 1.0.

Mr balanced approach raised taxes billions, and increased spending. talk about balanced.


Heres a clue.

at some point in time, if spending doesn't get cut, the whole system will crash without any order. Its coming sooner rather then later.

but ya, lets not worry about spending

 

[lotus503]

we should cut the military. I dont know if by 80%. but we spend too much on it.


Oh yes, please call my plan simple, because I didn't post a 1000 page bill infront of you. OMG I'm so hurt.

P.S.

My simple plan is far better then your current do nothing, continue on as if everything is ok, lets not cut back anywhere plan, because cutting government is bad.

I call you simple for comparing your kitchen table budgeting to the government of the united states.

Before we cut any significant spending we need to bring jobs back to this country and fix trade. once you have those two items tackled you can start to absorb the job loss caused by spending cuts.

But I'm here to tell you it isn't going to happen, in 50 years we are going to be sweat labor for an emerging Chinese middle class.

Because people think power in the hands of a corporatocracy is a great thing, job creators and all.

The government sucks but its controlled by industry. do you cut off the hand of the snake or cut off the head?

 

[Tom]

wrong.

big lie that the Obama and the MSM are trying to sell to the public.

If you can't pay your bills, you cut your spending until your income matches or exceeds your spending.

you dont go out and increase your borrowing. Unless you want to be broke/poor for a long time.

You don't know what you're talking about.

What the USA spends is set BY LAW by Congress. All the debt ceiling does is allow the government to meet its obligations that are already part of the LAW.

What results from not raising the debt ceiling isn't spending cuts, what happens is we default on our obligations, ruin our standing in the world, destroy the value of the dollar, and wreck the world economy.

 

[michal1980]

I call you simple for comparing your kitchen table budgeting to the government of the united states.

Before we cut any significant spending we need to bring jobs back to this country and fix trade. once you have those two items tackled you can start to absorb the job loss caused by spending cuts.

But I'm here to tell you it isn't going to happen, in 50 years we are going to be sweat labor for an emerging Chinese middle class.

Because people think power in the hands of a corporatocracy is a great thing, job creators and all.

The government sucks but its controlled by industry. do you cut off the hand of the snake or cut off the head?

the longer you wait to fix spending, the harder the solution is. So you set up impossible to meet goals, which will more likely the not change if we ever meet them.

those jobs are not coming back, new jobs have to be made, and low paying jobs need to stop having competition from illegal immigrants willing to undercut legal workers. at the same time spending cuts have to be made.

which yes, will result in some/a lot of people having a lower standard of living, sorry no more iphones with $100 monthly plans and cable tv.

 

[michal1980]

You don't know what you're talking about.

What the USA spends is set BY LAW by Congress. All the debt ceiling does is allow the government to meet its obligations that are already part of the LAW.

What results from not raising the debt ceiling isn't spending cuts, what happens is we default on our obligations, ruin our standing in the world, destroy the value of the dollar, and wreck the world economy.

you obviously dont get it.

If congress changes the LAW as to what we spend, and we spend less then we take in taxes, we dont reach a debt limit.

less spending = less debt. I know its a foreign concept to tax and spenders to spend less money.

 

[piasabird]

You voted for these idiots.