Dems vow not to negotiate with economic terrorists.

[techs]

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/...te-With-Economic-Terrorists-Over-Debt-Ceiling

Dems Supporting Obama Vow Not To Negotiate With Economic Terrorists Over Debt Ceiling

So they will take a hostage: the American economy. They will put a gun to the hostage's head and threaten to destroy our economy unless they are given what they could not achieve in the elections.

If the Republicans can extort the government to impose their policies by putting a gun to the head of our nation, over and over again, then our nation is lost. Destroying our democracy through economic terrorism is a price that cannot be paid.

Today many Democrats are coming together behind President Obama's vow not to negotiate with these hostage-takers.


"I don’t think the country will stand for it and I think Democrats will make it clear that you cannot threaten the economy of the United States for your political purposes,” Rep. Chris Van Hollen (D-MD) said in response to a question from TPM on Wednesday.
Rank and file Democrats are starting to back him up.

Rep. Peter Welch (D-VT) is circulating among colleagues a letter to President Obama, to affirm their support for his no-hostage strategy — and beyond that for him using extraordinary means to prevent the U.S. from defaulting on its debt obligations.

“We fully support your view that Congress should not ‘play this game,’” the letter reads. “Threatening default on our nation’s debt is an economic weapon of mass destruction that will have immediate and catastrophic consequences for the economy as well as America’s standing in the world. In the event the Speaker follows through on his reckless threat, we would support your use of any authority available to you, including the 14th amendment, to preserve America’s full faith and credit and prevent further damage to our economy.”

Welch’s has just begun circulating his letter, and has thus far gathered a dozen signatures.

http://www.businessinsider.com/republicans-are-economic-terrorists-2011-7

Republicans Are Economic Terrorists

After years of fighting Al Qaeda, it seems the Republicans have decided if they can't beat 'em, may as well join 'em.

Emulating the terrorists' actions, the House Republicans have decided to hold the President — and 300 million Americans — hostage as they demand tax cuts for the wealthy and spending cuts for everyone else, in exchange for agreeing to raise the debt ceiling by just enough to avoid the United States government from defaulting on its debt.

That's right: Republican Speaker of the House John Boehner and his Tea Party caucus are driving a jumbo-jet 747 into the world's tallest economy, and no one on the right-wing seems to give a damn.

http://www.examiner.com/article/republicans-use-debt-ceiling-vote-as-economic-terrorism

Republicans use debt ceiling vote as economic terrorism

July 30 2011 - Republicans are clearly using economic terrorism to advance a social agenda that they could never get passed through the normal legislative process.

Polls support the fact that Americans of all political leanings like Social Security and Medicare. However, radical Tea Party Republicans claim entitlements for the public are an example of big bad government. However, corporate welfare is OK in the GOP book of rules. The blatant hypocrisy is the biggest joke ever played on the American public.



Well, since there have been a few hundred articles by respected news and opinion sources, I was wondering how many others agree that what the Republicans are doing is "economic terrorism"?

I'm pretty sure this is your second thread on the exact same topic today. -Admin DrPizza
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?p=34442472#post34442472
Yep, there it is.

 

[raildogg]

This is laughable. People like the Dailykos and their followers (along with the equivalent from the right wing side) are not really looking for solutions but to win political points (or get more viewers, in the case of the Dailykos).

The game is played by both sides - after all, it usually takes two to play a game.

As for the article, it does not deserve to be commented on. Using words like "terrorism" is not helping anyone.

We are spreading more hatred in this country with our partisan views. Please move beyond Conservative and Liberal, Republican and Democrat.

 

[bozack]

This is laughable. People like the Dailykos and their followers (along with the equivalent from the right wing side) are not really looking for solutions but to win political points (or get more viewers, in the case of the Dailykos).

The game is play by both sides - after all, it usually takes two to play a game.

As for the article, it does not deserve to be commented on. Using words like "terrorism" is not helping anyone.

We are spreading more hatred in this country with our partisan views. Please move beyond Conservative and Liberal, Republican and Democrat.

Agreed, sites like this and its partisan rhetoric just stir the pot and do nothing to truly bring people together and work for a valid solution.

Its a joke and no better than the sites so many here slam for their alternative viewpoint.

 

[techs]

http://www.usnews.com/news/washingt...emocrats-see-tea-party-as-economic-terrorists

Poll: Most Democrats See Tea Party as 'Economic Terrorists'

While 53 percent of Democrats view Tea Party members as terrorists, 57 percent of voters not affiliated with either major party disagree, as do 74 percent of Republicans," says the poll.

The Tea Party ducks the terrorist label, but the poll isn't great news because 43 percent believe that party made things worse in the nation during the budget debates.



Well, America is finally coming around. At least a majority of Democrats thinks so.
Of course a majority of Republicans thought Saddam Hussein attacked us on 9-11 going into the Presidential elections of 2004. But eventually even they accepted the truth.

 

[Black Octagon]

I do not support the Republicans on either economic or political fronts, but such 'journalism' is pathetic. The US needs meaningful debate about its economic hardships, not drivel like this

 

[Charles Kozierok]

Well, America is finally coming around.

That's your conclusion from a 16-month-old poll?

 

[Matt1970]

So Republicans are called Terrorists because they do not want to negotiate with the Dems and then the Dems say they don't want to negotiate with the Terrorists. Where did your other thread calling Republicans Terrorists go?

 

[Incorruptible]

So Republicans are called Terrorists because they do not want to negotiate with the Dems and then the Dems say they don't want to negotiate with the Terrorists. Where did your other thread calling Republicans Terrorists go?

I agree that the hypocrisy is amazing.

The thread went where it should go, the garbage just like this one.

Posting in a troll thread

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Well look, yet a another troll thread by techs the liberal sock puppet.

 

[Darwin333]

Except we will still be taking in enough revenue to service our debt, all the crap about defaulting is just fear mongering and its wrong regardless of which side does it.

 

[trenchfoot]

It seems the Repubs are still in the "Get rid of that black muslim no birth cert CINO (christian in name only) socialist anti-jewish terrorist apologist" mode.

Obama won hands down. The Repubs lost seats in the Senate and House. The working class have wised up to the shennanigans the Repubs have been up to these last four years. The 47% got pissed off and woke up.

The majority of voting Americans have pronounced with their votes that the incessant Repub tactics of using obstructionism, hostage taking, record filibustering, voter suppression and disinfranchisement will not be tolerated any longer. There was a price to pay for it and it seems the Repubs are more than willing to stubbornly double down on their despised tactics and sink even deeper in the swill they've cooked up for themselves.

Sheer insanity. It's like betting on a horse that's already lost the race.

 

[Incorruptible]

Well look, yet a another troll thread by techs the liberal sock puppet.

Agree, It looks like his last thread was deleted

 

[techs]

Agree, It looks like his last thread was deleted

Yes, the right wing radicals complained the link did not specificially say terrorists. Since there about 11 thousand links with terrorist I reposted it.

And complained about your War on Christmas thread where your link does not mention the word war, nor does it even suggest there is a war.

And if its not changed I will complain to a higher mod.

 

[Incorruptible]

Yes, the right wing radicals complained the link did not specificially say terrorists. Since there about 11 thousand links with terrorist I reposted it.

And complained about your War on Christmas thread where your link does not mention the word war, nor does it even suggest there is a war.

And if its not changed I will complain to a higher mod.

Which thread, there are two of them

 

[Matt1970]

It seems the Repubs are still in the "Get rid of that black muslim no birth cert CINO (christian in name only) socialist anti-jewish terrorist apologist" mode.

Obama won hands down. The Repubs lost seats in the Senate and House. The working class have wised up to the shennanigans the Repubs have been up to these last four years. The 47% got pissed off and woke up.

The majority of voting Americans have pronounced with their votes that the incessant Repub tactics of using obstructionism, hostage taking, record filibustering, voter suppression and disinfranchisement will not be tolerated any longer. There was a price to pay for it and it seems the Repubs are more than willing to stubbornly double down on their despised tactics and sink even deeper in the swill they've cooked up for themselves.

Sheer insanity. It's like betting on a horse that's already lost the race.

And the race baiter shows up to add his boys to the milkshake in the middle.

BTW, the last time I checked there were 535 Elected Officials in Washington that have every right to be heard, not just Obama and the Democrats so get over it.

 

[monovillage]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...ec2f02-552f-11e2-89de-76c1c54b1418_story.html

Judge says US government doesn’t have to disclose documents on legality of targeted killings
NEW YORK — A federal judge has ruled that President Barack Obama’s administration doesn’t have to publicly disclose its legal justification for the drone attacks and other methods it has used to kill terrorism suspects overseas.

Damn! Did I post this in the wrong terrorist thread? Sorry.

 

[techs]

Which thread, there are two of them

Thanks for the heads up.

 

[michal1980]

the dems are the terrorists, holding America hostage with unsustainable spending. never wanting to cut anything.

 

[finglobes]

Obama and Dems have set America up for a financial stroke. All that has to happen is interest rates to return to historical average and America is crushed. Obama quite liked the idea too. He's so obvious in his machinations

 

[lotus503]

What I don't get is all the fuss, the country is a screwed, it's been screwed for a long time and both parties have contributed. It's not getting fixed because the system itself is broken, we have no mechanism to get out of debt.

With decades of policy leading us to this point, spanning multiple administrations, you would think folks would be wondering if this point we're at, is a point we are planned to be.

Bicker over spending and debt all you want, but you will continue to have shitty corrupt choices for political leaders who will do NOTHING to fix anything, ever!

 

[Rainsford]

Let's settle down a little bit. Republicans aren't "economic terrorists", not even if they're the Tea Party variety.

I don't think the problem is really with the Republican POLITICIANS at all, to be honest. Sure, some of them are pretty extreme in their views and oddly unwilling to work with other democratically elected officials. But that's only because not only do many Republican voters not punish such behavior, they punish moderate actions taken by incumbents by choosing even more extreme folks in the primaries. The voters doing that aren't "terrorists" either, but they are the primary cause of the government's current ongoing inability to function properly. It's hard to deal with actual problems when the core belief among Tea Party-type voters seems to be that the primary (or maybe only) problem facing government is Democrats and Republicans willing to work with Democrats.

 

[Gonad the Barbarian]

Yeah, they're economic freedom fighters.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

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Let's settle down a little bit. Republicans aren't "economic terrorists", not even if they're the Tea Party variety.

I don't think the problem is really with the Republican POLITICIANS at all, to be honest. Sure, some of them are pretty extreme in their views and oddly unwilling to work with other democratically elected officials. But that's only because not only do many Republican voters not punish such behavior, they punish moderate actions taken by incumbents by choosing even more extreme folks in the primaries. The voters doing that aren't "terrorists" either, but they are the primary cause of the government's current ongoing inability to function properly. It's hard to deal with actual problems when the core belief among Tea Party-type voters seems to be that the primary (or maybe only) problem facing government is Democrats and Republicans willing to work with Democrats.

He doesn't want improvement, he is one who would burn our nation rather than to stop vilifying.

 

[Rainsford]

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He doesn't want improvement, he is one who would burn our nation rather than to stop vilifying.

I will say that the belief that the other party is our primary/only problem doesn't seem to be limited to Republicans.

 

[lotus503]

Let's settle down a little bit. Republicans aren't "economic terrorists", not even if they're the Tea Party variety.

I don't think the problem is really with the Republican POLITICIANS at all, to be honest. Sure, some of them are pretty extreme in their views and oddly unwilling to work with other democratically elected officials. But that's only because not only do many Republican voters not punish such behavior, they punish moderate actions taken by incumbents by choosing even more extreme folks in the primaries. The voters doing that aren't "terrorists" either, but they are the primary cause of the government's current ongoing inability to function properly. It's hard to deal with actual problems when the core belief among Tea Party-type voters seems to be that the primary (or maybe only) problem facing government is Democrats and Republicans willing to work with Democrats.

They are doing exactly what they have been elected to do. Serve the interests of those who got them elected to office.

Meanwhile they will do what they can to placate the citizen as to not have them all in the streets.

This isn't a partisan issue, as all politicians get elected the same way, monied interests. The only real differences are the verbiage they use to incite the constituents to vote against their interests.

The system is rigged toward the .05% that fund the election cycles.