Dems upset at Bush Carrier Landing "stunt"

dudleydocker

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And who didn't see this coming?

I have to laugh when I hear this:

Earlier in the day, other House Democrats released a parody of the MasterCard advertisements, alleging the Lincoln stayed at sea an extra day at a cost of up to $1 million. The tagline on the ad ? "Shameless."

and then think back to the almost "rent by the hour" approach to the Lincoln bedroom that Clinton had.


Face it for what it is: Democratic whining for only having Michael Dukakis in a tank to compare! I still laugh when I think of that! And the fact that it comes from the likes of 'KKK' Byrd and Henry (quite possibly the ugliest man in the world) Waxman! C'mon! If you're gonna raise a stink, at least use a representative who won't be a laughing-stock!

Take it for what is really was: A masterfully choreographed speech using a symbol of US power as a backdrop. The carrier landing was just an added extra. Hell, why NOT do it?!

 

CPA

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it's just another issue, any issue nowadays, that the Dems are trying to grasp at to knock Bush down a peg or two. They are bitchin about the cost. Ha! Why don't they look at the bloated budget or Gephardts Universal Medical program if they want to concern themselves about cost.
 

ConclamoLudus

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Its the dems "check mate" move. LOL :)
POLITICS IS POLITICS IS POLITICS IS POLITICS. They are angry because to the majority of Americans it looks honorable, to the democrats it looks disgraceful. Its a republican political move, and a democrat political countermove. The democrats are going to be a little confused when they realize that most people don't see anything wrong with it. Then the democrats will just say that its because they are idiots and they don't see the propaganda, then they will ask for their vote.

ITS THE POLITICAL TANGO! :)

 

Nitemare

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Dems would be upset with Bush if he threw away an aluminum can instead of recycling it... Who cares what they think?


Heard Byrd was giving him a real lambasting regarding it as a political stunt..Doesn't he have a white pointy hat convention to attend?

He loves his country, he loves its citizens, and he loves our soldiers who risk their life in making the world a better place...If you don't like it ...bite me
 

Red Dawn

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Anyone recall Dukakis driving a Tank during his unsuccesful Campaign to become President? LMAO

Of course that was all for show. Sounds like a good reason to do it IMO!
 

SuperTool

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Considering the economic damage this administration doing to this country, and the debts they are getting us into, this stunt is just a drop in the bucket.
 

flavio

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Originally posted by: SuperTool
Considering the economic damage this administration doing to this country, and the debts they are getting us into, this stunt is just a drop in the bucket.

Of course, and stepping up these marketing tactics will hopefully continue to divert the publics attention and pull their "patriot" strings. It doesn't matter what it costs or whether it delays the troops returning home or whether the carrier was close enough to shore that he could have taken a ferry over.

edit: oh yeah....repost.

 

308nato

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Heh, I would like to see that fatass Clintoon in a flight suit. It would look like 2 hogs fighting in a gunney sack.

Just a couple of "I got a little willy Willy's" stunts"....

*50th anniversary of D-Day, Normandy beach...our all pain feeling commander in chief sadly strolls the beaches of Normandy deeply reflecting on the sacrifice of American youth in the past. He kneels...the cameras catch him as he takes some stones from the beach and silently places them in the shape of a cross where so many had died June 1944. It was a real tear jerker.

The problem is, the Normandy beaches have no stones of that sort. A staffer had carried them from up the road and placed them there. Fatty's handlers had carefully orchestrated the whole scene.

*Sicily-Rome American War Cemetery in Nettuno Italy...the commander once again is at his finest..painfully caught on tape viewing the 7862 american graves there. Each headstone with a flag gently snapping in a calm breeze. But wait...whats this?....a flag has fallen. The cameras pan as needledick picks the colors up from the sacred ground and reverently replaces the flag over the fallen GI's grave.

Problem was, a staffer had tossed the flag on the ground in a well choreagraphed photo op.


 

flavio

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Ahhhh yes...the old cliche of justifying current wrongs by pointing at other wrongs.

I wonder if that would work on my next speeding ticket?
 

308nato

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Originally posted by: SuperTool
Originally posted by: Corn
A single Clinton photo-op cost the US taxpayers $1 billion.

...this stunt is just a drop in the bucket....

A drop in the bucket indeed!

It is indeed, considering how Dubya's Iraq war photo-op is setting us back $100 Billion.


Damn. JP4 must have gotten hella expensive since I fueled a B-52 last time.

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Corn

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Ahhhh yes...the old cliche of justifying current wrongs by pointing at other wrongs.

Justifying a wrong? As soon as you can provide me evidence that fueling a Viking for a 39 mile trip costs $1 million, maybe then you would have a point.

Besides, I'm not justifying anything, I'm only pointing out the blatant hypocrisy of chin dribbling Bush haters.
 

308nato

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Originally posted by: flavio
Ahhhh yes...the old cliche of justifying current wrongs by pointing at other wrongs.

I wonder if that would work on my next speeding ticket?


I am not justifying anything. Pointy hat byrd's comments centered on the claim "this shameless photo op" somehow takes away from military sacrifice. It does nothing of the sort.

I was simply pointing out recent examples which did piss on military sacrifice.

Even though I detested him as commander in chief, I would have been proud if Jimmy Carter had flown into Kadeena on my p.o.s. BUFF he wouldn't buy me any parts for. I would have disabled the rear crew piss port first though.

 

Corn

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This is good stuff though. I'm all for allowing pettiness of the Bush hating morons to expose itself. Commercials such as the subject of this thread merely documents the desperation of a party too far removed from the people they supposedly represent.

I applaud this commercial, for it merely exposes the shortcomings of the Democratic party to a wider audience.
 

SuperTool

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Originally posted by: Corn
Ahhhh yes...the old cliche of justifying current wrongs by pointing at other wrongs.

Justifying a wrong? As soon as you can provide me evidence that fueling a Viking for a 39 mile trip costs $1 million, maybe then you would have a point.

Besides, I'm not justifying anything, I'm only pointing out the blatant hypocrisy of chin dribbling Bush haters.

How much does keeping a carrier at sea for 1 more day cost?
 

flavio

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Originally posted by: Corn
Ahhhh yes...the old cliche of justifying current wrongs by pointing at other wrongs.

Justifying a wrong? As soon as you can provide me evidence that fueling a Viking for a 39 mile trip costs $1 million, maybe then you would have a point.

Besides, I'm not justifying anything, I'm only pointing out the blatant hypocrisy of chin dribbling Bush haters.

First of all, it's not wrong until it cost $1 million? The pres can do whatever he wants as long as it costs under that?


..and where's the hypocrisy now? The ass sucking Bush lovers love to justify his actions by pointing elsewhere.
 

SuperTool

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Originally posted by: Corn
This is good stuff though. I'm all for allowing pettiness of the Bush hating morons to expose itself.

I am all for allowing the blindness of Bush apologist morons to expose itself too. ;)
 

Corn

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First you would have to provide some sort of evidence that the carrier was actually delayed a day. The carrier showed at port the day it was scheduled to arrive, not the day after. These events are planned well in advance. A carrier doesn't just lumber up to a pier, lower a gang plank, and offload 2000 people in 30 minutes.

Besides, the Lincoln is a nuclear powered carrier, the cost of fuel for an additional day would be exactly zero. The disembarking crew still gets paid, whether on shore leave or not. So you tell me, where does this $1 million dollar bill supposedly come from?
 

Corn

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First of all, it's not wrong until it cost $1 million? The pres can do whatever he wants as long as it costs under that?

So what your telling me is that a president landing on a carrier is wrong? Why, exactly? What if this so-called photo op only cost the fuel in the jet? The President, as part of his duties, expends alot of jet fuel during his term. Is every time he takes the air "wrong"?

He wanted to give a speech using the backdrop of a carrier and a happy crew. I hardly see anything morally objectionable about that. Of course, you do, simply because of the effect on Bush's image, nothing more. That's petty, but being petty is pretty much all you've got so you might as well use it, eh?
 

SuperTool

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Originally posted by: Corn
First you would have to provide some sort of evidence that the carrier was actually delayed a day. The carrier showed at port the day it was scheduled to arrive, not the day after. These events are planned well in advance. A carrier doesn't just lumber up to a pier, lower a gang plank, and offload 2000 people in 30 minutes.

Besides, the Lincoln is a nuclear powered carrier, the cost of fuel for an additional day would be exactly zero. The disembarking crew still gets paid, whether on shore leave or not. So you tell me, where does this $1 million dollar bill supposedly come from?

You are telling me keeping a carrier waiting for Dubya, the security, the fuel for his plane, and the chase plane, etc was free? Since when is nuclear fuel free?
It doesn't matter if the crew would have gotten paid anyways, they are not being paid to appear in Dubya's campaign photo-ops, and he shouldn't be misusing the military for that.
But you can continue being a Bush lapdog apoligist all you want.