Dems look to limit state restrictions on abortions

[Texashiker]

You're trying to make this a mom/dad thing when it is actually a custodial parent/non-custodial parent thing.

Considering the number in men in prison for not paying child support greatly outnumbers women, yea, this is a man/woman issue.

If they laws were fair, their would be an equal number of men and women in prison for not paying support.

 

[Texashiker]

he's the president of the new age he man woman haters club.

I love women.

I hate laws that discriminate.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Boohoo boohoo hooo the laws aren't fair.

Have you written your representatives? Have you done anything other than post in here whining and crying?

 

[fskimospy]

Considering the number in men in prison for not paying child support greatly outnumbers women, yea, this is a man/woman issue.

If they laws were fair, their would be an equal number of men and women in prison for not paying support.

That would only be true if an equal number of men and women were non-custodial parents. Want to know something funny? Research shows that in cases where fathers actually seek custody they win it more often than women do.

Amazing how you can take a situation where people don't seek custody of their children and then default on their obligations as a sign that they are so horribly oppressed.

 

[z1ggy]

Considering the number in men in prison for not paying child support greatly outnumbers women, yea, this is a man/woman issue.

If they laws were fair, their would be an equal number of men and women in prison for not paying support.

If the parents of child are divorced, and the mother has custody of the child there is no "child support" that she legally pays to any one. There's no laws telling her she must keep employment.

Is it unfair that the father MUST pay child support? Perhaps, but if the parents were not divorced, would he not be providing for that child anyway? So what's the big deal?

 

[Texashiker]

That would only be true if an equal number of men and women were non-custodial parents. Want to know something funny? Research shows that in cases where fathers actually seek custody they win it more often than women do.

Proof?

If the parents of child are divorced, and the mother has custody of the child there is no "child support" that she legally pays to any one. There's no laws telling her she must keep employment.

Is it unfair that the father MUST pay child support? Perhaps, but if the parents were not divorced, would he not be providing for that child anyway? So what's the big deal?

It is unfair the father is held to a different standard than the mother.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

That would only be true if an equal number of men and women were non-custodial parents. Want to know something funny? Research shows that in cases where fathers actually seek custody they win it more often than women do.

Amazing how you can take a situation where people don't seek custody of their children and then default on their obligations as a sign that they are so horribly oppressed.

I know quite a few single men who manned up and got custody of their child/children. Some even receive child support from their ex-wives.

 

[Texashiker]

Example of injustice,

http://pjmedia.com/drhelen/2013/03/...ghth-as-often-as-men-with-similar-violations/

A new report concludes that between 95% and 98.5% of all incarcerations in Massachusetts sentenced from the Massachusetts Probate and Family Courts from 2001 through 2011 have been men. Moreover, this percentage may be increasing, with an average of 94.5% from 2001 to 2008, and 96.2% from 2009 through 2011. It is likely that most of these incarcerations are for incomplete payment of child support.

How can anyone even suggest the system is fair when 95% - 98% of those in jail for child support are men?


From the same link,

Further analysis suggests that women who fail to pay all of their child support are incarcerated only one-eighth as often as men with similar violations.

Women sent to prison 1/8 as often as men?

Someone explain to me how that is a fair and balanced justice system.

 

[fskimospy]

Proof?

http://amptoons.com/blog/files/Massachusetts_Gender_Bias_Study.htm

Case 1:
n=2100

29% of fathers got primary custody
65% of fathers got joint custody
7% of mothers got primary custody

Case 2:
n=57
6 years

67% of fathers got primary custody
23% of mothers got primary custody

Case 3:
n=40
6 years

41% of fathers got sole custody
38% of fathers got joint custody
15% of mothers got sole custody

It also mentions a separate study where in national level cases fathers won custody more than half the time.

 

[alzan]

I already am aware of this, he's the president of the new age he man woman haters club.

The Three Stooges and the Little Rascals did it better.

 

[Texashiker]

It also mentions a separate study where in national level cases fathers won custody more than half the time.

You are citing a study from 1990? Really?

Do you have any idea how much it cost to fight for custody? Lets start at around $15k and go up from there.

Seriously, how many people have an extra $20k just laying around?

 

[fskimospy]

You are citing a study from 1990? Really?

Do you have any idea how much it cost to fight for custody? Lets start at around $15k and go up from there.

Seriously, how many people have an extra $20k just laying around?

One of the primary reasons why men appear to win more often is that they are more likely to have that extra $20k laying around than women do.

I can't help but notice how funny it is that the guy who continued to demand counterfactual studies in another thread even though it was repeatedly exposed how completely laughable his initial "study" was is now immediately dismissing the results of a study he doesn't like while providing no alternative study of his own.

 

[z1ggy]

Proof?




It is unfair the father is held to a different standard than the mother.

What do you mean? If the father receives custody, the mother shall pay child support. Perhaps.. Maybe just perhaps the reason it seems unfair to you is because, A) most mothers retain custody of children, therefore the overall # of individuals paying child support are men, and B) when fathers do end up getting custody, the mothers actually pay child support at a much higher rate than a man would.

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