Democrats try wooing white men

[fskimospy]

Bush had a way of persuasively intimidating other countries into line, an ability that the Obama sorely lacks.

Do you care to explain why Putin invaded Georgia while Bush was busy 'persuasively intimidating other countries into line'?

 

[Agent11]

Do you care to explain why Putin invaded Georgia while Bush was busy 'persuasively intimidating other countries into line'?

Because Putin and Bush had the understanding that they would not interfere with each other or eventualities would be too great to bear.

 

[MrPickins]

It seems clear from all the evidence I've seen that, at the moment, homophobia is much more widespread and intense among blacks than among whites.

"White heterosexual male" is sort of a stand in term for what it represents to people. It represents the founding fathers, it represents the past, it represents the traditional incarnation of the US and of western civilization.

When someone's feeling lazy and wants to just sort of talk about conservatism or traditionalism, they'll often use "white men" as a shorthand for it, even if many of the traditionalist "regressive" values they're harping on are actually much more alive and well among minority communities. But the people who like to harp on these things find it very difficult to ever criticize anyone OTHER THAN white males, so they have to frame it that way I guess.

I think you're projecting.

In most cases (including this one), they are specifically referring to white males as a demographic.

 

[MrPickins]

Out of touch?

Is that why so few white males vote democrat? because I am out of touch?

I was specifically referring to the quoted lines:

One of the only reasons why low income families vote democrat is for welfare.

Democrats appeal to four main groups - welfare, abortions, gun control and gays.

These are profoundly stupid statements.

 

[shadow9d9]

I would like to know how republicans are stealing elections and/or limiting access.

Are you joking? Republican controlled states are shutting down early voting and extended hours all over the country, not to mention all the efforts to limit voting based on completely bogus voting restrictions after the SCOTUS decision.

 

[shadow9d9]

"Democrats appeal to four main groups - welfare, abortions, gun control and gays."

Republicans get way more welfare than democrats. Tax cuts for the rich under Bush? Medicare D(elderly, which is the republican base) under bush. Tons of corporate welfare and military giveaways, which are sacred to republicans.

Abortions were settled 40 years ago. It is only relevant to the extreme right, who want to keep it alive as a wedge voting issue for the nutjob wing of their base(you).

Gays? Interracial marriage. Women's rights. Desegregation. Conservatives have always been on the wrong sides of these issues. The country is changing. Time to get with the times. It is only an issue to rightwing extremists. Most people don't concern themselves with what gay males do in the bedroom, unlike you, who keeps obsessing.

Gun control? 1. This is a nonsense issue because gun rights overall continue to expand year after year, even under middle/right presidents like Obama. You get to keep your precious killing machines. You live in fear, which is why you need those kind of machines in the first place. The NRA keeps your fear alive, so it can get rich, along with gun/ammo manufacturers. Amazing how easy it is to keep conservatives living in fear of everything.

 

[MrPickins]

Gun control? 1. This is a nonsense issue because gun rights overall continue to expand year after year, even under middle/right presidents like Obama. You get to keep your precious killing machines. You live in fear, which is why you need those kind of machines in the first place. The NRA keeps your fear alive, so it can get rich, along with gun/ammo manufacturers. Amazing how easy it is to keep conservatives living in fear of everything.

Fear is not the only reason to own a gun.

 

[TerryMathews]

@shadow: if gun control fear is a manufactured issue then Obama, Biden, and Feinstein are doing the manufacturing.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Fear the deer man, fear the deer!!!!!!

 

[shadow9d9]

@shadow: if gun control fear is a manufactured issue then Obama, Biden, and Feinstein are doing the manufacturing.

I don't think so. The ammo and gun manufacturers are making a FORTUNE off the gullible fools that live in constant fear, along with the NRA. They trump up anything, real or imagined, to scare people like you. It truly is amazing. That is how they make their money. Keep living in fear!

 

[werepossum]

I know it's very strange to me. Apparently I'm a gay woman on welfare. Who knew?

Well, I suspected.

"Democrats appeal to four main groups - welfare, abortions, gun control and gays."

Republicans get way more welfare than democrats. Tax cuts for the rich under Bush? Medicare D(elderly, which is the republican base) under bush. Tons of corporate welfare and military giveaways, which are sacred to republicans.

Abortions were settled 40 years ago. It is only relevant to the extreme right, who want to keep it alive as a wedge voting issue for the nutjob wing of their base(you).

Gays? Interracial marriage. Women's rights. Desegregation. Conservatives have always been on the wrong sides of these issues. The country is changing. Time to get with the times. It is only an issue to rightwing extremists. Most people don't concern themselves with what gay males do in the bedroom, unlike you, who keeps obsessing.

Gun control? 1. This is a nonsense issue because gun rights overall continue to expand year after year, even under middle/right presidents like Obama. You get to keep your precious killing machines. You live in fear, which is why you need those kind of machines in the first place. The NRA keeps your fear alive, so it can get rich, along with gun/ammo manufacturers. Amazing how easy it is to keep conservatives living in fear of everything.

Wow, so tax cuts equal welfare. Since all money rightfully belongs to government, not taking some of it equals a gift to the people who actually earned it. Chairman Mao would be pleased, comrade.

Fear is not the only reason to own a gun.

C'mon now, you've been here long enough not to expect him to hold two thoughts at the same time.

 

[shadow9d9]

Well, I suspected.


Wow, so tax cuts equal welfare. Since all money rightfully belongs to government, not taking some of it equals a gift to the people who actually earned it. Chairman Mao would be pleased, comrade.


C'mon now, you've been here long enough not to expect him to hold two thoughts at the same time.

Absolutely. Tax cuts targeted at the rich are absolutely welfare, or at the very least, buying votes. Mao is a dictator, which is incompatible with communism. Please read up on history and communism.

Funny how you ignored the rest though!

 

[Moonbeam]

As with every area of rational thinking, the brain defective conservative mind can't keep up with reality. All we get is their bubble programmed regurgitation of rationalizations provided by Fox and other right wing propaganda machines. Poor poor put upon white men and their childish feelings of victimization. How sad to be a man turned into a blabbering sheep.

 

[werepossum]

Absolutely. Tax cuts targeted at the rich are absolutely welfare, or at the very least, buying votes. Mao is a dictator, which is incompatible with communism. Please read up on history and communism.

Funny how you ignored the rest though!

Also funny* how not taking money from a few people is buying votes but giving money to a lot of people is not. Hmm, seems like I remember something about a lot of people's votes being somehow more desirable than a few people's votes. Maybe it'll come to me later . . .

*I mean, obviously not as funny as Mao being incompatible with communism. But still funny.

 

[shadow9d9]

Also funny* how not taking money from a few people is buying votes but giving money to a lot of people is not. Hmm, seems like I remember something about a lot of people's votes being somehow more desirable than a few people's votes. Maybe it'll come to me later . . .

*I mean, obviously not as funny as Mao being incompatible with communism. But still funny.

Giving back money is exactly what temporary tax cuts are.

Yep, communism has nothing to do with dictatorships. Education. Try it.

"the dictatorship of the proletariat is the intermediate system between capitalism and communism, when the government is in the process of changing the means of ownership from privatism to collective ownership"- Can't be both communism and a dictatorship, as they are contradictory in terms. China and Russia were promised communism to rally the peasants. Communism never took place. How are people such suckers?(you) They can call themselves whatever they want, but it doesn't magically make it so, any more than someone claiming to be the son of a god would magically make IT true.

Wiki.

 

[Nebor]

Democrats try wooing white men

The democrats have been trying to fuck white men for 50 years, this is nothing new.

 

[Fern]

-snip-

My point was, say in TX or FL you can basically go in to a gun store, show them that you are 18 via a drivers license, and walk out with a gun.

No. There are federal rules.

Fern

 

[CitizenKain]

Why do children of illegal immigrants vote democrat? Because people like obama dangle immigration reform in front of them.

Why do pro-abortion people vote democrat? Because they do not want to be held responsible for their sexual choices.

Why do pro-gay groups vote democrat? Because will help gays promote their immoral lifestyle.

Each group is only concerned about their own needs, rather than the needs of the nation. Those groups elected a talker into office with no foreign policy experience. As a result we are the laughing stock of the international community.

No, the children of illegal immigrants vote democratic because they see republicans on the news saying they need to ship all the mexicans home and being racist pricks at every opportunity

The pro-choice people vote democratic because republicans don't think women are capable of making their own decisions and need to be treated like property.

Gay people are voting democratic because republicans won't be happy until being gay is a crime again.

Apparently when these groups vote for their self interest its bad, but when white rich men do it, its for the good of the country somehow.

 

[Texashiker]

You realize that the majority of Americans support gay rights and abortion, right?

Democrat party losing white male voters says otherwise.

 

[TerryMathews]

I don't think so. The ammo and gun manufacturers are making a FORTUNE off the gullible fools that live in constant fear, along with the NRA. They trump up anything, real or imagined, to scare people like you. It truly is amazing. That is how they make their money. Keep living in fear!

Plot twist: Obama, Biden, and Feinstein are heavily invested in Federal, Colt, and Winchester.

 

[First]

Democrat party losing white male voters says otherwise.

You fail at math.

 

[MrPickins]

No. There are federal rules.

Fern

Yep they have to call in the background check.

Of course, I've only ever had to wait more than 20 min when I was at Cabelas on a Saturday.

 

[MrPickins]

Democrat party losing white male voters says otherwise.

At 35% of the population, white males are not the majority.

And, 35% of that 35% (at least the voters) placed their ballot for Obama.


Not all white males think like you do. Remember that the country is much bigger than just your area of the backwoods.

 

[her209]

Word?

<snip>

Word. If you're going to post up body counts, at least compare it to something. Let's say the number of dead Native Americans or dead African slaves for a start...

But by your standard, I guess if you aren't dead, you're not [i[really[/i] a victim. I mean, Japanese-Americans who were forced into internment camps should be glad they didn't die due to nutritional or lack of medical care. Or blacks during segregation should be grateful they weren't lynched for thinking they were just as good as white folk.

As far as those hard working white men. They went out of their way to intimidate, discriminate, injure, and/or kill those immigrants that took their "jerbs" most often times taking on more dangerous jobs and for lower pay I might add. Take, for example, the Chinese-American laborers. They were considered such a "threat" that they were banned from working and legislation was drafted that specifically banned Chinese immigration to the US altogether. Similar legislation was later passed to slow down the immigration of the "undesirables" especially from "derka a der".

 

[shadow9d9]

Plot twist: Obama, Biden, and Feinstein are heavily invested in Federal, Colt, and Winchester.

Assuming those are gun manufacturers, it wouldn't be a plot twist at all. Recognizing insanity and making money of it just means that they are intelligent people. Gun lovers are lunatics, who live in constant fear and paranoia. They are fed an endless amount of nonsensical fear based propaganda and they buy it hook, line, and sinker.