Democrats spend another $155 billion

[sandorski]

$1.2 billion for 5500 police officers? WTF? That's almost $220,000 each. Are these police officers actually being bought, or did I go into the wrong field? Oh, that's right, it's just the "government discount" - a 300% markup on everything.

Training, Equipment, Office Space, and other Costs are likely part of it.

 

[chucky2]

Calling for the murder of Congress sounds pretty vacationable to me. You seriously need to take a break from politics and get some perspective.

I need perspective???? You need to get out more (past your love of Gov Lib circle). The vast majority of people I've talked to, and that covers a wide political spectrum, would have absolutely no problems with what I advocated. Congress knows this as well: When your approval rating is at 9% and the economy hasn't even really gone in the sh1tter, if you're politically minded (and they all are), you know.

They just don't care.

Which is why we should not care for them.

We don't need vacations...we need a pardon or two and some bullets.

Chuck

 

[Ausm]

Your inane comment about this being a troll thread? I figured you had something more interesting when you said I couldnt handle the truth. Personally I could give a rats ass your opinion on this thread. I was only making a suggestion your life would be more blissful if you resumed sticking your head in the sand and ignore these threads.

Oh man I better hide from the E-thug...give me a fucking break you fucking moron...Why don't you go rub one off on your Reagan poster that most likely hangs over your bed

 

[umbrella39]

Same place. But the last 8 years has been nothing like the past 1 year.

Give me a pardon, and I'd machine gun the whole lot of them. Every. F'ing. One.

BDS'rs, you can have whoever you'd like. Then I'll shoot the rest. It's a deal.

Chuck

Quoted for SS.

 

[nobodyknows]

I see the right wing hypocrits are out in full force today. I'm looking forward to hearing them cry foul when their taxes go up. After Bush went amuck like a drunken sailor at a whorehouse it's only a matter of time until the whole thing either goes belly up or taxes go through the roof and like it or not you can't get blood from a rock, so whine on you crazy diamonds.

 

[fskimospy]

I need perspective???? You need to get out more (past your love of Gov Lib circle). The vast majority of people I've talked to, and that covers a wide political spectrum, would have absolutely no problems with what I advocated. Congress knows this as well: When your approval rating is at 9% and the economy hasn't even really gone in the sh1tter, if you're politically minded (and they all are), you know.

They just don't care.

Which is why we should not care for them.

We don't need vacations...we need a pardon or two and some bullets.

Chuck

Yes, when you say you will personally murder a thousand people you need some perspective. What you're saying is quite literally crazy talk.

 

[chucky2]

Yes, when you say you will personally murder a thousand people you need some perspective. What you're saying is quite literally crazy talk.

Ok, you have a problem with me trying to take an efficient solution to the problem...I can understand that given your leanings, you are for Gov, so you don't want efficiency.

I can compromise though on this: I'll sign up for 1, and then we'll open it up to anyone else that feels the same way I do: Limit one politician per non-politician US taxpayer.

You are making it sound like I'm waaaayyy out there on my thinking. But I will bet you we'd need Millions of Politicians to satisfy that demand. EDIT: On second thought, I'd make that 10's of Millions of Politicians you'd need...much more accurate I believe.

You have some perverse love of Politicians I fear...you wouldn't happen to be a Poly Sci student or something would you?

Chuck

 

[Acanthus]

$1.2 billion for 5500 police officers? WTF? That's almost $220,000 each. Are these police officers actually being bought, or did I go into the wrong field? Oh, that's right, it's just the "government discount" - a 300% markup on everything.

2.5 years pay with benefits for each officer. sounds about right.

 

[Carmen813]

Ok, you have a problem with me trying to take an efficient solution to the problem...I can understand that given your leanings, you are for Gov, so you don't want efficiency.

I can compromise though on this: I'll sign up for 1, and then we'll open it up to anyone else that feels the same way I do: Limit one politician per non-politician US taxpayer.

You are making it sound like I'm waaaayyy out there on my thinking. But I will bet you we'd need Millions of Politicians to satisfy that demand. EDIT: On second thought, I'd make that 10's of Millions of Politicians you'd need...much more accurate I believe.

You have some perverse love of Politicians I fear...you wouldn't happen to be a Poly Sci student or something would you?

Chuck

Wow. You know, given that our country has such a sad history of assassination it's really quite something that you have the audacity to suggest such a thing. I don't care if it's on the internet...and if I were you, I'd start cloaking my IP address. It's interesting that you actually think killing the current Congress would somehow prevent a future Congress from becoming just as bad. Think about who sent them there.

Wonders never cease...

 

[jacc1234]

Ok, you have a problem with me trying to take an efficient solution to the problem...I can understand that given your leanings, you are for Gov, so you don't want efficiency.

I can compromise though on this: I'll sign up for 1, and then we'll open it up to anyone else that feels the same way I do: Limit one politician per non-politician US taxpayer.

You are making it sound like I'm waaaayyy out there on my thinking. But I will bet you we'd need Millions of Politicians to satisfy that demand. EDIT: On second thought, I'd make that 10's of Millions of Politicians you'd need...much more accurate I believe.

You have some perverse love of Politicians I fear...you wouldn't happen to be a Poly Sci student or something would you?

Chuck

Don't you realize that they are not the problem...WE are the problem. Go ahead gun all of them down, I guarantee you we will elect 1000 equally shitty replacements.

 

[woolfe9999]

Ok, you have a problem with me trying to take an efficient solution to the problem...I can understand that given your leanings, you are for Gov, so you don't want efficiency.

I can compromise though on this: I'll sign up for 1, and then we'll open it up to anyone else that feels the same way I do: Limit one politician per non-politician US taxpayer.

You are making it sound like I'm waaaayyy out there on my thinking. But I will bet you we'd need Millions of Politicians to satisfy that demand. EDIT: On second thought, I'd make that 10's of Millions of Politicians you'd need...much more accurate I believe.

You have some perverse love of Politicians I fear...you wouldn't happen to be a Poly Sci student or something would you?

Chuck

If you oppose murdering someone, that means you "love" them?

Murder is illegal and immoral.

You are psychopath.

- wolf

 

[chucky2]

Wow. You know, given that our country has such a sad history of assassination it's really quite something that you have the audacity to suggest such a thing. I don't care if it's on the internet...and if I were you, I'd start cloaking my IP address. It's interesting that you actually think killing the current Congress would somehow prevent a future Congress from becoming just as bad. Think about who sent them there.

Wonders never cease...

I have no worries. The powers that be already know the deal: To take action on comments like this would be to take action on a large % of the populace.

I never said btw that it would prevent a future Congress from being just as bad. It would sure remove the current bad Congress though - and nothing short of what I propose will do it to the amount needed to get these useless F'ers out. Replacing 1 or 3 through demographically rigged elections that are bought doesn't fix the problem. Protesting doesn't fix the problem.

Only complete removal fixes - however temporary - the problem.

Chuck

 

[chucky2]

If you oppose murdering someone, that means you "love" them?

Murder is illegal and immoral.

You are psychopath.

- wolf

It's not murder though, it's killing. Murder is what you do to an innocent...and these aren't Innocents. Congress has no problem killing people through their actions, why should we shield Congress from the same logic?

You have to read Eski posts for the past couple of years here to realize he/she actually has a regard for Congress. Just a sense from reading the posts is where I get that feeling. Eski didn't respond yet, so don't put words in his/her mouth, maybe the hate approaches mine and the method of removal is where we disagree. I guess we'll see on the response...

Chuck

 

[chucky2]

Don't you realize that they are not the problem...WE are the problem. Go ahead gun all of them down, I guarantee you we will elect 1000 equally shitty replacements.

I only agree to a certain extent. At some point, the system is self-fullfilling, or, as self-fullfilling as possible.

At that point, it's much less people controlled as it is system controlled. And that is the point the people need to wrest control back. But, how? Voting? How do I vote for good candidates when the true good candidates can't even run because they don't have Millions of dollars? Or because the bought and agendized media won't cover them?

What is our real option on the state and national scene? Vote Dem., Vote Rep.

Wow. Awesome. Yes, we'll get Congress fixed that way! Not.

Chuck

 

[Genx87]

Oh man I better hide from the E-thug...give me a fucking break you fucking moron...Why don't you go rub one off on your Reagan poster that most likely hangs over your bed

You have a level of paranoia that is amusing.

 

[Ausm]

You have a level of paranoia that is amusing.

You have me confused as a GOP fanboi that's your department.

 

[Genx87]

You have me confused as a GOP fanboi that's your department.

Oh yeah, you really got me there!

 

[EagleKeeper]

Genx87 and Ausm

Get back on the thread track or take your personal squabbles off line.

 

[Specop 007]

Oh man I better hide from the E-thug...give me a fucking break you fucking moron...Why don't you go rub one off on your Reagan poster that most likely hangs over your bed

Still smoking that Hopium eh Autism?

 

[Fear No Evil]

Genx87 and Ausm

Get back on the thread track or take your personal squabbles off line.

Are you suggesting they meet in person to resolve this? Ban CC for encouraging violence among members. ()

 

[Ozoned]

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN1612851020091217

Didn't they all ready pass a $1 trillion *stimulus* bill to do just that?

Well, it wasn't quite a trillion, but yes. AND 1/2 of that is in the pipeline to be spent between oct. 31, 2009-sept. 1, 2010

They think it will have a positive impact on the economy,,,and the elections. I think the Dems want to use the other 155 billion,,,, just to be sure.

 

[Darwin333]

I see the right wing hypocrits are out in full force today. I'm looking forward to hearing them cry foul when their taxes go up. After Bush went amuck like a drunken sailor at a whorehouse it's only a matter of time until the whole thing either goes belly up or taxes go through the roof and like it or not you can't get blood from a rock, so whine on you crazy diamonds.

If Bush was a "drunker sailor at a whorehouse" does that mean Obama is going to the same expensive ass DC Madam as Senator Vitter got caught at? Right now Obama is making the Bush deficits look pretty insignificant with tons more spending in the works.

 

[HumblePie]

Chucky.. what he is advocating is revolution, which is the end of a government. Of course he is view is very *ahem* over dramatic to say the very least. There are other ways to bring change that doesn't result in graves. We aren't living in the past where the only way to change the power of those in control was that way.

Overhaul is most likely needed, but who knows how to do it? I have a few ideas, like many others. Mine is to first off stop all political contributions. A complete and utter end to them. No more legal bribes. Second, limit the amount of time that a politician can campaign before an election. Many other countries like the UK do this. This prevents the need for a massive campaign budget if all politicians or would be ones are limited in this way. Third, extend out terms, but have mini "reviews" like a customer survey. After a couple of years, people get to vote on how well they think a politician is doing. If they are doing poorly, out they go.

Also once out voted like this, they can NEVER hold office again. Ever.

The whole system needs restructuring to stop at least the current forms of corruptions form continuing. Not to say that new ways to lead to corruption will spring up, but when that happens new reforms will be needed then to address those.

However, we need to stop some of the insanity that currently is going on.

Why? Here's what is happening so far in the US.

The average American, typically middle class, spends more in overall taxes that the majority of the developed world. When you add up Federal, State, Property, School, County, City, Local, Sales, and many many other taxes, I can easily contend that the average American doles out $.60 on every dollar they earn in the long run directly to taxes.

What does all these taxes get the average American? Well taxes were meant to provide "social" infrastructure for all Americans. So we can have roads, schools, hospitals, and other things deemed needed for a quality life for everyone. What do we get? The mess we have now. We have less "social infrastructure of meaningful worth" than pretty much every other developed, and some non developed, countries. We are behind on education, behind on healthcare, and screwed by our car, real estate, banking, cable, and cell phone industries. But gee golly, we have the best military in the world!

It used to work, but now it doesn't. Luckily,our fore fathers put in ways to make changes as needed, but the problem is "is it too late?"

 

[bob4432]

SOURCE

Prepare For Rebellion, Obama Orders US-Canadian Troops

Kremlin position papers presented to Prime Minister Putin today on his upcoming meeting with NATO Secretary General Anders Fogh Rasmussen state that the European-US military alliance has authorized an ‘emergency request’ from President Obama to utilize American and Canadian NATO troops to put down what is expected to be a “rebellion” after the expected January, 2010 ‘declaration of bankruptcy’ by the State of California.

According to these reports, Obama’s fears of rebellion are due to the economic health of California (the United States largest State) after the 3rd largest US State, New York, declared a ‘fiscal emergency’ and refused to release to its cities and towns over $750 Million due them this past week with the Governor of New York, David Paterson, declaring “I can’t say this enough: The state has run out of money.”

New York’s fiscal crisis, however, pales in comparison to California’s, where new economic data points to its expected 5-year budget deficit reaching the staggering amount of over $100 Billion which Russian economists warn will result in budget cuts so steep as to create ‘social chaos’ among this States 36 million citizens.

Reports from the United States are, indeed, confirming the mass movement of military supplies and thousands of Canadian Special Forces Troops to California from the Canadian Forces Base of Petawawa to join their American military counterparts, with ‘secondary’ reports stating that at least 1,000 tanks are massing their too.

Russian Military Analysts are further warning in this report that Obama has decided to implement the feared RAND Corporation (one of the most powerful research arms of the US Military-Industrial-Homeland Security Complex) police state ‘blueprint’ tilted “Stability Police Force for the United States: Justification and Creating U.S. Capabilities” that has been modeled on the Nazi German secret police forces organization Geheime Staatspolizei (Gestapo) meant to ‘control and demoralize’ any opposition to the state.

Even worse for these American people is the legalization process currently embedded in their new health care legislation which will see everyone of them becoming virtual slaves of their government, and as warned about by the Fox News Service in their report titled “Be Afraid, Be Very Afraid of Obama’s Latest Big Brother Plan” and which says:

“Under the Democrats’ national health care scheme not only would OPM be charged with overseeing and administering federal employees health care but they will have the added charge of administering civilian federal health care as well. What does that mean? Basically, that Americans will be treated as “civil servants.” Are you starting to see the danger?

The more government seeks to control our lives the more Orwellian it gets. This “big brother” mentality that “government knows best” and that it is their mission to provide cradle to grave “care” of its citizens will doom America as we know it. Under such a system the individual becomes meaningless and the state becomes the entity upon which we are all forced to rely.”

Unfortunately, with or without these Americans succumbing to the loss of their Nation through the establishment of a police state, their fate appears to have already been sealed as new reports are showing that by their continued saving they are failing to provide China with the money needed through the buying of goods to purchase US bonds to keep them afloat, and which has led to the incredible circumstance of the United States, through its Federal Reserve and other financial entities, becoming the largest buyers of their own debt.

Not being seen in all of these dire events by the American people is that their present collapse as an independent Nation was engineered by their own President Obama, who working in concert with the previous President, George Bush, sold them out to Wall Street by packing his administration with banking insiders have, literally, pillaged the entire economic future of the United States for the benefit of their elite classes and, incredibly, supported these once collapsing banks with over $352 Billion in drug money.

And so grave has it become for ordinary Americans that new reports are now showing that in what was once the most powerful Nation on Earth, there now exists an ‘epidemic’ of child hunger and one their fastest growing cities is a tent-town of newly homeless named “Obamaville” in a stark reminder of the thousands of shanty towns named Hoovervilles built during the Great Depression.

For those American people believing their propaganda media reports that a recovery is underway they couldn’t be more mistaken, as newly released data shows that of the millions of jobs lost these past 2 years almost all of them are permanent. And, as always, these people are being kept from knowing the full and brutal truth of their economic collapse with reports also showing that the latest unemployment figures released by the US government were faked.

But to the greatest fears of these Americans should be the newly released information showing that US scientists have perfected, for the first time in history, a new drugless technique to wipe from these people’s minds their very own memories, and as we can read:

“In a scientific experiment that brings to mind the memory-erasing escapade in the 2004 film “Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind,” scientists have blocked fearful recollections in human participants, sans drugs. The results challenge the view that our long-term memories are fixed and resistant to change.”

Russian Military Psychologists have long warned that the West’s longest term plan to control their soon to be rebellious populations lie in memory altering techniques such as are being perfected in the United States and due to be deployed through their mass media in radio programmes, television, and movie broadcasts outlets as these Nations past reliance on the drugging of their citizens through mass fluoridation is becoming more and more ineffectual.

Important to note too is that the economic collapse of the United States is just one of the catastrophic dangers they are facing, as this past week the giant plant genetics company Bayer admitted in a US Federal Court that it has been “unable to control the spread of its genetically-engineered organisms despite ‘the best practices’ to stop widespread contamination” and which may very well see the destruction of the American’s ability to feed themselves as these ‘monster plants’ reap their destruction on Nature.

To all of these events, it is not in our knowing if the American people will awaken from their self induced slumber to arise, as they have many times throughout their history, to reclaim for themselves what is now rapidly being stolen from them. But, and if their present actions are a predictor to what they may do in the future, one can only fear for them as they are marched in lockstep towards an abyss they only fail to see because they won’t open their eyes.

 

[RyanPaulShaffer]

Ah, what's another $155 billion anyway, right? It's all just Monopoly money, right? Right?