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sportage

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Democrats are ignoring a huge risk.
Trump could easily win big time, and democrats would never see it coming.
Reasoning?
That Brexit vote.
The establishment never seen that Brexit vote coming.
And the polls failed to predict it.
And now, over here in our own land, we could be witnessing the very same silent uprising in play.
Democrats blindsided by underestimating the anger of the electorate, and underestimating the power of the outsider.
A full on rejection of business as usual.

Comparing our election to what happened across the ocean, that carbon copy uprising could take place over here. And the polls would fail to detect it, fail to predict it, and our general assumption the same could never happen over here.
Just maybe it doesn't matter who Hillary chose as her VP running mate.
Just maybe democrats have already lost, and lost big.
And Hilary's pick of an establishment candidate such as Tim Kaine only reenforcing business as usual for the democratic ticket.

The rise of Donald Trump was a shock to nearly everyone establishment.
No one believed it would happen.
Disbelief right up the moment Donald Trump accepted the nomination.
And now, disbelief that the people would elect president Donald Trump.
Disbelief right up to the moment Hillary gives her concession speech.

Believe it? Believe it!
 
Mai72

Mai72

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No one thought a black man would become president as well. Anything can happen. We will survive Trump if he becomes president.

It's not the end of the world.
 
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compuwiz1

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I've got several hundred friends on Facebook, from both sides of the aisle, from construction workers, musicians to bankers.

If you're on Facebook, search the following:

Donald J Trump
Hillary Clinton

You can see how many of your friends like each candidate. I know I have a diverse mix of friends with varying interests, but here's what my search came back with...

43 Trump
3 Hillary

Look at the like stats overall for each candidate.

Trump likes 9,706,174
Clinton likes 4,607,414
 
mxnerd

mxnerd

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This time, Republicans never talks about family values, because U.S. probably will have a President who operate casinos, how ironic.

Winning is everything. Racist, bigotry is nothing.
 
shady28

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compuwiz1 said:
I've got several hundred friends on Facebook, from both sides of the aisle, from construction workers, musicians to bankers.

If you're on Facebook, search the following:

Donald J Trump
Hillary Clinton

You can see how many of your friends like each candidate. I know I have a diverse mix of friends with varying interests, but here's what my search came back with...

43 Trump
3 Hillary

Look at the like stats overall for each candidate.

Trump likes 9,706,174
Clinton likes 4,607,414
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You might want to wander over to the Dem Facebook page, and see what's been going on for the last 4 or 5 hours in the comments.

Best I can tell, there are 2 types of Dems right now. Those who are not aware of the DNC subversion of the primaries (and the media) as shown by the email leaks and still support Clinton, and those who are aware.
 
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compuwiz1

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mxnerd said:
This time, Republicans never talks about family values, because U.S. probably will have a President who operate casinos, how ironic.

Winning is everything. Racist, bigotry is nothing.
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You didn't watch the convention. I heard many, many speakers talking about family values, including Trump's family. Find some new material. I'd tell you to listen to all the speakers, women, blacks, hispanics, etc., but you won't do it, because even if the facts are different than what you're saying, people like you are too stuck on your narrative...er, your programming. All the videos are on YouTube.

Most of your post is absolute bull shit.
 
mxnerd

mxnerd

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Talking is one thing, doing it is another.

Operating casinos and gets tons of money from others is just transferring money from one side to the rich side, mostly to Trump's pockets.
 
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Moonbeam

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"Personally, I think Hillary just won the election tonight.
She will earn the votes from Blacks, Hispanics, women, and a hell of a lot of anti-Trump republicans. Especially anti-Trump republican women.
Let trump have Pence.
We will see which candidate made the sound choice and made the best VP decision."

Are you sure you know what you believe?
 
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compuwiz1

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shady28 said:
You might want to wander over to the Dem Facebook page, and see what's been going on for the last 4 or 5 hours in the comments.

Best I can tell, there are 2 types of Dems right now. Those who are not aware of the DNC subversion of the primaries (and the media) as shown by the email leaks and still support Clinton, and those who are aware.
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I just spent the last 20 minutes reading through some of the comments on the Democratic party page. People seem to be really pissed at the DNC, DWS and are leaving for Stein, writing in Sanders, or jumping over to Trump. I do understand there are probably some Republican trolls in there, but still, there seem to be a lot of genuine Dems who are infuriated, especially after the email leak.
 
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Strk

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That's why Michael Moore said Trump could win and Maher backed him up. Why? Because he absolutely can win. Let's face it, neither candidate polls that well (have either cracked 45% against the other?). All you need is a lack of turnout (Dems are good for not showing up) or a decent third party to take enough votes. Let's not forget, Bill won the first time with 43% thanks to Ross Perot.
 
flexy

flexy

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I agree with you, the Brexit also made me overthink this.

There is the issue that with Bernie out and the BITCH in instead, many liberals are less than motivated (understandably!) to even vote.

But dems need a high "liberal"/democrat turnout to win.

It is possible/likely that (as with Brexit) many libs won't vote...and more proles and T voters will, means Trump wins.

BUT: So or so, it is moot. No matter the outcome, it will SUCK. From that P.o.V. I understand if people are less motivated to even vote. To me, Clinton is only "marginally" better, if at all, than Trump.
 
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compuwiz1 said:
I just spent the last 20 minutes reading through some of the comments on the Democratic party page. People seem to be really pissed at the DNC, DWS and are leaving for Stein, writing in Sanders, or jumping over to Trump. I do understand there are probably some Republican trolls in there, but still, there seem to be a lot of genuine Dems who are infuriated, especially after the email leak.
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Same happened with Trump at various times, some R's mad at certain things he did/said. Including the recent flare up with Cruz. Yet why is this a big deal, when all of those situations were discounted? I know a number of die hard R's who are voting for Johnson, staying home, etc.

Maybe they both matter.
 
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fskimospy

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It's interesting watching all the conservatives here trying to read tea leaves to convince themselves that they will win. You are wasting your time.
 
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compuwiz1

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fskimospy said:
It's interesting watching all the conservatives here trying to read tea leaves to convince themselves that they will win. You are wasting your time.
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No tea leaves required. Hillary will handily lose by a landslide.
 
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fskimospy

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compuwiz1 said:
No tea leaves required. Hillary will handily lose by a landslide.
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Care to bet on that? Haha. I'm still waiting to collect from the last person who bet with their heart and not their head. He has mysteriously disappeared however.
 
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Strk

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compuwiz1 said:
No tea leaves required. Hillary will handily lose by a landslide.
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Unless a third party takes a huge chunk of the votes, I don't see either candidate winning by a landslide. I'd be surprised if the winner even tops 45%. You're talking an election where both candidates have a majority negative approval rating; that's ridiculous. People usually have to get elected and screw up a lot to get their numbers.
 
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Fanatical Meat

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fskimospy said:
It's interesting watching all the conservatives here trying to read tea leaves to convince themselves that they will win. You are wasting your time.
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What's funnier is Trump isn't a small Government conservative. His ACA replacement tentatively looks an awful lot like the ACA
He's been all over the map about abortion but we all know he looks at it as a settled matter
He's all about big Government programs
 
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Strk

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Fanatical Meat said:
What's funnier is Trump isn't a small Government conservative. His ACA replacement tentatively looks an awful lot like the ACA
He's been all over the map about abortion but we all know he looks at it as a settled matter
He's all about big Government programs
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Plenty of modern conservatives seem to be about big government programs, they just pretend like they're still about small government. I think they figure if they scream tax cuts, it's legit.
 
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nageov3t

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Brexit polls weren't wrong... they were close, with a decent percentage of undecideds.

pundits were wrong and assumed that the undecideds would break for remain.
 
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