Democrats fear another Trump trouncing Leaderless and lacking a strategy, top party officials worry

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Jhhnn

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Realistically, this is probably what's going to happen. However, I think the Democrats will get pushed out of the way rather than actively get themselves out of the way.

We have to make it that way. Otherwise we'll just get the "they're just as bad!" & "they were complicit" when it comes time to pick up the pieces from this unfolding horror story.
 

MrSquished

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It seems like the message the Democrats were delivering was:

We love people of all ethnicities and colors except for white people.
We love Wall Street
We love the current political establishment
We love mass immigration
We love foreign outsourcing and NAFTA and the TPP.
Americans second, foreigners first

If that's their message then perhaps it's better to have no message at all. The spectacle of watching them try to blame Russia and Whitelash for Trump's victory would be laughable if it weren't so sad. The Democrats seem to be in a state of complete denial and it doesn't appear that they've learned anything from Clinton's and Debbie Wasserman-Schultz's buttraping loss.

Someone should unload a big truck full of manure on Debbie's front lawn, force her to wear a bag over her head for the duration of the Trump presidency, and point at her when they see her in public and chant "Shame, Shame!"

You are very dumb fuck who gets their news from Breitbart and thinks its mainstream news.
 

shady28

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I think the best Democrat strategy right now is to basically do nothing. Deep Social Security cuts? Fine. ..

Fake news?

Did you know Obama had it in his 2015 budget?



No, the Budget Deal Did NOT Cut Your Social Security Benefits

A few excerpts :

"At issue is a little-used benefit strategy called File and Suspend. The Budget deal modifies this practice and fixes the unintended consequences (the Social Security Actuary calls it a loophole) in a 2000 Social Security law that allows retirees to file for Social Security and then suspend receipt of their benefits to maximize their Social Security payout.

...
Eliminating “aggressive Social Security-claiming strategies, which allow upper-income beneficiaries to manipulate the timing of collection of Social Security benefits in order to maximize delayed retirement credits” was something the president included in his fiscal-year 2015 budget, not something the administration reluctantly agreed to. And most advocates, including the Social Security Works coalition, to which EPI belongs, think it’s a loophole that needs to be closed, since the purpose of the delayed retirement credit is to equalize lifetime benefits, not to give savvier beneficiaries who can afford to delay take-up a little something extra.

Specifically, this Budget Deal:

  • Prevents a 19% cut in Social Security Disability Insurance benefits that would have occurred in late 2016
  • Ensures 7 years of certainty that the Social Security Disability insurance program will pay full benefits
  • Mitigates a 52% Medicare Part B premium increase for 30% of Medicare beneficiaries
  • Alleviates an increase in the Part B deductible for all beneficiaries, lowering it from a projected $223 to $167
  • Provides sequester relief to programs like the Older Americans Act, Low Income Home Energy Assistance Program and Social Security field offices.
"


 

Jhhnn

IN MEMORIAM
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Fake news?

Did you know Obama had it in his 2015 budget?



No, the Budget Deal Did NOT Cut Your Social Security Benefits

A few excerpts :

"At issue is a little-used benefit strategy called File and Suspend. The Budget deal modifies this practice and fixes the unintended consequences (the Social Security Actuary calls it a loophole) in a 2000 Social Security law that allows retirees to file for Social Security and then suspend receipt of their benefits to maximize their Social Security payout.

...
Eliminating “aggressive Social Security-claiming strategies, which allow upper-income beneficiaries to manipulate the timing of collection of Social Security benefits in order to maximize delayed retirement credits” was something the president included in his fiscal-year 2015 budget, not something the administration reluctantly agreed to. And most advocates, including the Social Security Works coalition, to which EPI belongs, think it’s a loophole that needs to be closed, since the purpose of the delayed retirement credit is to equalize lifetime benefits, not to give savvier beneficiaries who can afford to delay take-up a little something extra.

Specifically, this Budget Deal:




    • Prevents a 19% cut in Social Security Disability Insurance benefits that would have occurred in late 2016



    • Ensures 7 years of certainty that the Social Security Disability insurance program will pay full benefits



    • Mitigates a 52% Medicare Part B premium increase for 30% of Medicare beneficiaries



    • Alleviates an increase in the Part B deductible for all beneficiaries, lowering it from a projected $223 to $167



    • Provides sequester relief to programs like the Older Americans Act, Low Income Home Energy Assistance Program and Social Security field offices.
"

So what?
 

Hugo Drax

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They will double down on identity politics. If Hillary could run she will probably try again.
 

dank69

Lifer
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Dank, you' really the first one to work through the stages

Denial
Anger
Bargaining
Depression
Acceptance <-----
Nope. I'm staying stuck on anger for at least 4 years.
The Democrats that supported Sen. Sanders had more honor and integrity then the pitiful rejects that backed Hillary.
I voted for Sanders in the primary. Sanders himself supported Hillary and even said early in the primary process that Hillary was better than any Republican by a mile. Funny how Bernie Bros pick and choose when they want to believe what Sanders says.